felipenavida

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Honestly, I won't support this game financially ever again but I still wouldn't call it a milker. Dev still release update monthly (abruptly) (but the reason it's been 0.8 for quite a while because he took a pause like a few months long for this year), so comparing this game (on aspects of update interval and content) to other games out there it is not bad at all
I've been following this game for quite some time now, two years to be more precise and so far i've seen this game get updated quite regularly, even though it's not that much of a content, but at least is something.

I'm not a supporter myself so i can't complain about not being more, but i'm only saying this because there are a few games here that ARE patreon milkers, and a very specific one comes to mind because it makes a shit ton of money and yet it only delivers ONE update per YEAR with about 20 minutes worth of gameplay(reading) at best, but i can't name it here to avoid drama.

Still, i much prefer if i could simply buy an early access version only once and get free updates after that, but sadly we all know why it doesn't happen. (Well, technically there is all that censorship crap going on now, but that just happened recently).
 
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SecretWeeb

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Here's the full gallery, up to 8.53.1 Patreon.

Still missing the Gyaru gang takeout scenes, as these are not showing up in the gallery.

EDIT: thanks to Admirefire, these are added too, gallery is complete.

The path should be C:\Users\[Your PC username]\AppData\Local\Secret_Care_Cafe

The other file is my save from I think 0.8.38. I added this one because that's a save file before you decide if you want Cookie or Rai to be your secret lovers or not. Just so you don't have to start from the beginning before choices start to matter. Just rename savedata6 to 1-5 to overwrite your previous save.
update please?
 

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Cleric guy?

Come to think of it a spinoff of this in a fantasy setting would be TakeAllMyMoney/10.

Tavern/Brothel managment and adventuring party mechanics mixed together.
"Cafe Cleric", the white hair guy with the little minigame for Cookie. I thought this was the second boss that unlocks backrooms? If not i am so confuse by what unlocks them
 

NecroVane

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Sounds like you'll actually really enjoy this game then. The original person you're responding to seems to not have played the game in a very long time, as his description of that scene is somewhat simplified and off base imo. I just watched it to make sure. They do in fact also have a whole conversation about it after and it's very clear, as with all other girls in this game, that the girls have absolute loyalty to the MC first and foremost. You can see part of a scene where the MC "didn't like it" but in fact actually did like it as its part of his own type of corruption into this debauchery. The sharing element gives way to corruption to both the MC and the girls, but not to any sort of point where NTR comes into play. There is no NTR in this game. They will never leave the MC and nor he them. They will drop any sharing should the MC ask, but the MC will never ask because he enjoys it at the end of the day and that's kind of the main point of the whole series of sharing events, it's not just the girl getting corrupted by it, but the MC too. Some of the random clients even talk about how they're all crazy, MC included.

The MC complains when they don't send him pictures and even joins in on multiple swinging events, including the follow up event to the one the person you replied to referenced. There's also a lot the same balance in reverse with the girls and the MC. The swinging goes both ways and each girl has their own take on things and goes through their own arc about this, along with the MC.

You'll have to play it to get the full context, but all in all its a good game and I think it does the swinging element pretty well without needing to jump into any actual NTR territory. It's a good balance and the characters are all pretty nuanced.
I mostly agree for the other girls, but Cynthia in particular seems to be a focal point for very questionable "Sharing" content, and the scene with the sports fans is hardly the only one that leans into borderline NTR territory.

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I don't hate NTR, i actually enjoy it if it's done well and this wall of text isn't intended to shame those who like it or say that it's a bad fetish, but i really hate when it's masquerading as something else. The whole appeal of NTS instead of NTR, is that you can feel confident that the FMC will never betray you, and it's just some innocent fun, but pretty much all of cynthia's routes try their absolute damndest to make you feel insecure; She isnt just fucking others, she's basically being fully romanced by them. I was actually considering supporting this game financially, as i do with most of the games i like on here, but with the direction a lot of cynthia's sharing storylines are heading i had to reconsider doing so.

Maybe once everything fully plays out, and all the "routes" are fully complete(which at the rate content comes out for this game will be in 2040 at the earliest), and the game has actual endings, this will look better in hindsight, but as of right now i wouldn't blame people for playing this, starting down Cynthia's sharing route, and thinking they got baited into yet another NTS turned NTR game where loser MC initially lets his GF sleep around for the thrill of it, but she ends up getting fully corrupted and NTRed, because that is basically what the game is at this point, and that sucks.

The follow up to the sports fans orgy does give me hope, but i remain worried about the direction a lot of these routes are taking.
 
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I mostly agree for the other girls, but Cynthia in particular seems to be a focal point for very questionable "Sharing" content, and the scene with the sports fans is hardly the only one that leans into borderline NTR territory.

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I don't hate NTR, i actually enjoy it if it's done well and this wall of text isn't intended to shame those who like it or say that it's a bad fetish, but i really hate when it's masquerading as something else. The whole appeal of NTS instead of NTR, is that you can feel confident that the FMC will never betray you, and it's just some innocent fun, but pretty much all of cynthia's routes try their absolute damndest to make you feel insecure; She isnt just fucking others, she's basically being fully romanced by them. I was actually considering supporting this game financially, as i do with most of the games i like on here, but with the direction a lot of cynthia's sharing storylines are heading i had to reconsider doing so.

Maybe once everything fully plays out, and all the "routes" are fully complete(which at the rate content comes out for this game will be in 2040 at the earliest), and the game has actual endings, this will look better in hindsight, but as of right now i wouldn't blame people for playing this, starting down Cynthia's sharing route, and thinking they got baited into yet another NTS turned NTR game where loser MC initially lets his GF sleep around for the thrill of it, but she ends up getting fully corrupted and NTRed, because that is basically what the game is at this point, and that sucks.

The follow up to the sports fans orgy does give me hope, but i remain worried about the direction a lot of these routes are taking.
I agree. Technically, there are several questionable scenes in this game in which Cynthia goes to have sex with a client, while either not telling the MC anything about it, or dismisses it and talks about it after the sex itself. In fact, the entire content of the "exchange" is based on the conversation between MC and Cynthia at the beginning of the game and a couple of small scenes in which Cynthia tells MC not to worry and she will always love only him.(Most of the heroines of NTR games say these words at the beginning of the plot.... :ROFLMAO: ). In short, you're right, the boundaries are very blurred and in some scenes it's just pure NTR... Especially - emotionally.
 
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I mostly agree for the other girls, but Cynthia in particular seems to be a focal point for very questionable "Sharing" content, and the scene with the sports fans is hardly the only one that leans into borderline NTR territory.

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I don't hate NTR, i actually enjoy it if it's done well and this wall of text isn't intended to shame those who like it or say that it's a bad fetish, but i really hate when it's masquerading as something else. The whole appeal of NTS instead of NTR, is that you can feel confident that the FMC will never betray you, and it's just some innocent fun, but pretty much all of cynthia's routes try their absolute damndest to make you feel insecure; She isnt just fucking others, she's basically being fully romanced by them. I was actually considering supporting this game financially, as i do with most of the games i like on here, but with the direction a lot of cynthia's sharing storylines are heading i had to reconsider doing so.

Maybe once everything fully plays out, and all the "routes" are fully complete(which at the rate content comes out for this game will be in 2040 at the earliest), and the game has actual endings, this will look better in hindsight, but as of right now i wouldn't blame people for playing this, starting down Cynthia's sharing route, and thinking they got baited into yet another NTS turned NTR game where loser MC initially lets his GF sleep around for the thrill of it, but she ends up getting fully corrupted and NTRed, because that is basically what the game is at this point, and that sucks.

The follow up to the sports fans orgy does give me hope, but i remain worried about the direction a lot of these routes are taking.
I definitely get where you're coming from, but considering what the dev has said in the past about this game never going that far and how it always go back to Cynthia being devastated at the thought of Sergil ever leaving her and vice versa when the topic comes up, I just don't see it as coming close to a true NTR (meaning girls leave the MC) experience. To me this seems more like Cynthia's flavor of the corruption/mind break side of things, which does vary slightly depending on the girl. No doubt she loves sex with many people, but in terms of actual love and romance, only Sergil can give that to her, at least in so much as the story has gone out of its way to show us. I know there's a lot more to their backstory and relationship we still don't know about.

For Sergil's side of things, I also never saw him as too worried about it once the events start playing out and considering that he does the same exact thing, and even worse technically in a way with actually cheating without ever telling Cynthia about the other girls, at least for a while iirc. The football one I think is supposed to be the latest event for Cynthia in the timeline iirc, while the jock one was the first so the taboo also wore off for her it seemed like to me too.

But I definitely get it considering the flavor of the scenes, for sure. Maybe it's because I've played plenty of full on NTR, girl is stolen or whatnot games, but despite all the sharing and cheating going on here, it never had that same vibe to me. You do bring up a good point about if you're actually viewing this as if you are the MC, something I personally don't do, maybe one would feel different in the moment.

As an aside, when I made my prior comment, I forgot about how a lot of discussions focus on NTR in an umbrella term perspective, so I clarified my comment slightly to mean that I don't personally believe there is any NTR that will happen where the girls will actually leave the MC.
 

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I definitely get where you're coming from, but considering what the dev has said in the past about this game never going that far and how it always go back to Cynthia being devastated at the thought of Sergil ever leaving her and vice versa when the topic comes up, I just don't see it as coming close to a true NTR (meaning girls leave the MC) experience. To me this seems more like Cynthia's flavor of the corruption/mind break side of things, which does vary slightly depending on the girl. No doubt she loves sex with many people, but in terms of actual love and romance, only Sergil can give that to her, at least in so much as the story has gone out of its way to show us. I know there's a lot more to their backstory and relationship we still don't know about.

For Sergil's side of things, I also never saw him as too worried about it once the events start playing out and considering that he does the same exact thing, and even worse technically in a way with actually cheating without ever telling Cynthia about the other girls, at least for a while iirc. The football one I think is supposed to be the latest event for Cynthia in the timeline iirc, while the jock one was the first so the taboo also wore off for her it seemed like to me too.

But I definitely get it considering the flavor of the scenes, for sure. Maybe it's because I've played plenty of full on NTR, girl is stolen or whatnot games, but despite all the sharing and cheating going on here, it never had that same vibe to me. You do bring up a good point about if you're actually viewing this as if you are the MC, something I personally don't do, maybe one would feel different in the moment.

As an aside, when I made my prior comment, I forgot about how a lot of discussions focus on NTR in an umbrella term perspective, so I clarified my comment slightly to mean that I don't personally believe there is any NTR that will happen where the girls will actually leave the MC.
Yea i can understand your perspective, and i think a big portion of the "NTRish" feeling comes from the fact that many of these stories are incomplete, like the gyaru couple one. That one really, really needs more context on exactly what was happening on that date, why cynthia is literally fawning over the guy like a newlywed in her photos, and why cynthia was so flippant about not making MC aware ahead of time. As of right now the gyaru couple story literally looks like the beginning of an NTR route; She got a taste and now she wants to go further, MC be damned. It's basically in the same state the sports fans story was before the "aftermath" event was released, and then rewritten to make it more effectively defuse the situation. The story right now is on an awful cliffhanger that really paints it in a dark light.

I think the main theme of Cynthia's content, as mentioned early on in the main story, is that she actually has a bit of a jealousy fetish. So her route gives off serious NTR vibes as a result; she's basically trying to play the role of the debauched GF falling to pleasure with her lovers, and teasing her boyfriend about how much fun she's having, to try and bring forth said jealousy. Which, for me, i hate that shit, as that is literally the main thing that separates NTS and NTR; not needing to feel jealous of what she's doing because you trust that she'll always return to you. But with the way Cynthia acts, she's almost trying to give you the impression that she's fallen to pleasure and cant control herself anymore, that she isn't with these other people just for the sex but for real intimacy, kissing, hugging, all that jazz, especially during her date with the sensitive jock and her date with the gyaru couple, which you'd think if Sergil is the only one she really loves, she wouldn't want to do that with others and it'd just be the raunchy sex. I mean hell, after the sports fans orgy she literally gets a permanent tag unlocked indicating that her inhibitions have been permanently destroyed. But as you said, when push comes to shove, she always reasserts that the only one she loves is Sergil, and is terrified of losing him. I just wish the game did a more consistent job of showing that side of her. It really seems like the creator is trying to basically illicit the same feelings of betrayal, jealousy and emasculation you get from an NTR game; All of her sharing partners are better lovers than the MC in one way or another(bigger dicks, superior stamina, making her cum harder than she ever has before, etc), but then hand waive it away by having Cynthia just say after the fact, nope the only one i love is sergil. All it'd take is for her to just...not do that once, and boom you're playing an NTR game.

Take the sensitive jock storyline as an example.

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The sports fan "arc" i think has mostly gone in a better direction, especially after the follow up event with cookie where cynthia gets incredibly pissed, punches them, and threatens to kick them out of the house when they mention she should just leave MC and get with them, since she "belongs to them more than him now" after how good of a fucking they gave her. They were literally pulling lines straight from a typical NTR storyline, implying they had conquered her and stolen her, and she straight decks them for it, which was awesome.

I guess time will tell, i'm really rooting for this one because i do really like the concept, just a lot of Cynthia's content is giving off really feel-bad vibes right now.
 
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During the “chat” with Amy, the game closes with the following message:

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ERROR in action number 1
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gml_Object_obj_all_events_array_2d_Draw_0 (line 1757)

Does anyone know how to help?
I'm having the exact same problem when talking to Ame, anyone knows how to fix it?
 

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I think the main theme of Cynthia's content, as mentioned early on in the main story, is that she actually has a bit of a jealousy fetish. So her route gives off serious NTR vibes as a result; she's basically trying to play the role of the debauched GF falling to pleasure with her lovers, and teasing her boyfriend about how much fun she's having, to try and bring forth said jealousy.
You are right. I actually like that shit. Too bad you do not have a choice of how to respond to things happening or her teasing. That sucks, since 90% of the time, Sergil is a stoic man, giving very little emotion when it comes to these things. Yeah I get that aside from that he's the funny guy, but damn...

He let's her "cheat" and is apparently turned on by that, but not jealous at all. The author makes this a point all the time. This always confused the heck out of me. I personally would assume that the arousel would come from said jealousy, but apperantly not. Would be cool if we could choose how he thinks.
 
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How does NTR/sharing work in this game? I only played a little, progressed only in the story of the shy couple, and I found it a bit strange that Cynthia slept with the guy and said she'd send us photos, but this conversation, where she says she slept with or is going to sleep with the guy, has never happened to me before. Is this normal? Or did I do something wrong? I like sharing, but only if there's dialogue between the couple. It seems a bit like NTR, and if it's like that with the rest of the characters, I won't continue playing.
 

JMan9200

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How does NTR/sharing work in this game? I only played a little, progressed only in the story of the shy couple, and I found it a bit strange that Cynthia slept with the guy and said she'd send us photos, but this conversation, where she says she slept with or is going to sleep with the guy, has never happened to me before. Is this normal? Or did I do something wrong? I like sharing, but only if there's dialogue between the couple. It seems a bit like NTR, and if it's like that with the rest of the characters, I won't continue playing.
I gave a summary of how you unlock sharing content not long ago in the thread in relation to another discussion here:

https://f95zone.to/threads/secret-care-cafe-v0-8-54-1-patreon-rare-alex.63911/post-18682518

If you're seeing the sharing scenes with the clients, then you gave her the triangle pin and Sergil already had the discussion with Cynthia that starts the sharing content. The triangle pin is in the shop where you buy stuff from the guy who sells items. There's no actual NTR in this game where the girls leave Sergil for some random client or anything like that, but each girl does eventually have this sort of mind break moment where they do just fully accept the sharing aspect, that Sergil requested of them, moving forward and their respective kinks for it. Further up in the thread some of us were discussing NTR generally and opinions seem to vary, but the dev has in the past said there won't be any netorare where the girls up and leave Sergil. They're loyal to him first and foremost. This is not a netorare game, but a sharing game.

The triangle pin situation is part of the sideplot of Sergil asking the girls to do these activities with clients in the cafe because he enjoys watching them do it, knowing they do it, and sometimes being involved. Each girl has their own reactions and arc about this in their own way as you see in their respective sharing scenes, but at the end of the day, they are still loyal to Sergil and unless the dev does a complete 180 on the characterizations of all the characters, the storyline for all parties involved, and his own words, it will remain as it is now, just sharing. Some characters like Cynthia and Sergil do get off on the taboo unknown side of it a littler more than the other girls, but it still is all part of the act at the end of the day.

If you don't give any girl a triangle pin, then you'll never unlock those scenes or see any sharing content. They wil only have scenes with Sergil. The main story is mostly about Sergil's own version of sharing, or really cheating initially, as it revolves around him starting relationships with all the other girls without Cynthia initially knowing, although it's more implied she's into it anyway, but yeah that's where the cheating tag comes from.

The alternative to all of this if you didn't give them the sharing pin is that you're experiencing a bug as you can only unlock those scenes if you give the girls the triangle sharing pin.
 
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