Tower1998

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Aug 16, 2018
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What happens if we refused all the options during brainwashing symulation? Also what do we have to do to got an bestiality option during brainwashing?
Also how to check what options we have refused to this point?
 

qwsaq

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Feb 2, 2020
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What happens if we refused all the options during brainwashing symulation? Also what do we have to do to got an bestiality option during brainwashing?
Also how to check what options we have refused to this point?
Rejecting simulations basically does nothing. No long term consequences.
The simulations you see are the simulations available. If you have to ask how to get them, they haven't been implemented.
 

smegmaboyo

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Apr 16, 2019
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We saw earlier Perverted Education got heavily neutered because of patreon breathing down their necks
Anybody know if Secretary is facing (or gonna face) the same fate?
 

qwsaq

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Wait what when did that happen
Last update. There is no longer any incest and a ton of dialog had changes shoehorned in so the PC is providing unambiguous consent without coercion at all times. It really blows. They basically had to change the entire atmosphere of the game to get the prudes at Patreon to fuck off.
 

gregers

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Dec 9, 2018
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We saw earlier Perverted Education got heavily neutered because of patreon breathing down their necks
Anybody know if Secretary is facing (or gonna face) the same fate?
Speculation is that PE came under increased scrutiny because their Patreon became highly succesful (the dev mentioned over in their thread that they'd just cracked the top 1000); if this game reaches similar heights, I'd expect the same scrutiny.

Patreon wants to keep in with PayPal and the credit card companies (MasterCard etc.), who in turn want to keep being able to do business all over the world, so restrictions in some jurisdictions often impact Patreon as a whole. Incest, noncon, and bestiality porn are all illegal in many places, so Patreon toes the line to keep themselves out of trouble.

The dev for PE has mentioned that blackmail and hypno were two of the things the Patreon censors came down on particularly hard, obviously that could easily apply here as well.
 

Twistedcat8

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May 15, 2018
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Last update. There is no longer any incest and a ton of dialog had changes shoehorned in so the PC is providing unambiguous consent without coercion at all times. It really blows. They basically had to change the entire atmosphere of the game to get the prudes at Patreon to fuck off.
Tbf there were certain aspects of PE that for years I personally have had a problem with related to consent. These problems all are breaking my suspension of disbelief related as well on top of being forced M/M content that is only "fixed" with the shemale option. These problems being the bullies and the coach content, which is effectively "forced" because you literally cant go further in the game unless you do these scenes.

Secretary imo is teetering on the line. And it could be possible in the future that Secretary gets hit because of Patreon going Ham with a crackdown.
 

noway1

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Nov 27, 2019
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Tbf there were certain aspects of PE that for years I personally have had a problem with related to consent. These problems all are breaking my suspension of disbelief related as well on top of being forced M/M content that is only "fixed" with the shemale option. These problems being the bullies and the coach content, which is effectively "forced" because you literally cant go further in the game unless you do these scenes.

Secretary imo is teetering on the line. And it could be possible in the future that Secretary gets hit because of Patreon going Ham with a crackdown.

I'd rather prefer that secretary keeps M/M and shemale stuff optional. I'm not quite sure, since most of the feminization games finally lead to some M/M content. Maybe psychologically the ultimate dream of most of those transformation fetishes is becoming a real women that gets fucked.
For my part, I'm into this due to the nice femdom content. And here I totally prefer the forced way. So it's somehow similar. I totally like to be forced into nasty stuff, as long as it is actually what I want anyways. Hopefully Secretary will continue to offer a femdom story line without mandatory M/M. (unlike PE where that was sadly dropped)
 
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ordep

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May 26, 2017
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Hi, does anybody know how to advance on bestiality? I got bestiality maxed at 5. The wiki states that the next threshold is sucking off an actual horse (I already deepthroated the horse dildo and sent the pic). How do I find one? Haven't found that info anywhere yet
 

LLz

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Feb 2, 2018
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It appears the latest version doesn't contain all the earlier videos, serving more as an update. Anyone has a link to a previous version which contains the rest of the videos?
 

Maelstromukun

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Mar 11, 2018
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It appears the latest version doesn't contain all the earlier videos, serving more as an update. Anyone has a link to a previous version which contains the rest of the videos?
They have older versions on their discord, someone mentioned that 0.7.9 had everything. Here's the mega for 0.7.9:
 

Maelstromukun

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Mar 11, 2018
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A lot of links are dead since they restructured their website, the walkthrough is now at and the online link 404s.

There's a help desk at their discord as well as a bug report channel
 
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gromit6

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Last Update
Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:50 pm

Version 0.7.11.1

links



changelog

0.7.11.1
This is going to take a LOT more therapy:
  • New topics to discuss with your friendly neighborhood psychiatrist
  • Show off and chat about your fun outfits and other changes!
  • Go deeper into your SUB-conscious as you continue to help her research into the human mind
    • New options and rewards to help you guide your mental development
    • By "accepting" enough of her experimental treatments you will get an additional interactive choice wherin you can choose your outfit before selecting your activity - pair the correct outfit with the correct activity to unlock new scenes and advanced skill thresholds

Chemical Perfection:
  • You can now ask your therapist about the strange candy you recieved during your first workday
  • New quest to "assist" Dr. Twig in "perfecting" a new drug

An Old Fashioned Way to Travel:
  • New potential travel options when using the taxi service leading to new scenes/experiences

Skip Level:
  • Rather than an automatic and immediate "bad end" giving the data crystal to Mr. Pawn has its own unique scene (that will lead to additional questlines in a future release)

You Really Must Take your medicine:
  • "Therapy" content and drug content can now be made required via two new assessment questions (or changed in the options menu) turning these on will make such content mandatory rather than optional with new scenes for Twig (chemical treatments) and Trapper (digital treatments) accordingly words, passages

Even More Random:
  • New random events added on the way to work
  • New random events while going around town
  • New random event in the ligerie shop

Ultimate Oral:
  • Oral 20 is now obtainable
  • Special training + capstone event w/your manager

Life can be So Stressful:
  • Stress and willpower have both been revamped.
  • Stress will now be affected by fetish actions - doing things too far above your comfort zone will increase stress, but indulging in things you love can reduce it.
  • Maintaining low stress and doing things that continue to lower it has a chance to replentish willpower
  • Wearing clothing that conflicts with your feminization stat can be stressful, wearing clothing that affirms such can be rejuvenating
  • Wearing a too-large or too-small plug can be stressful, at high stats being unplugged is stressful
  • Your manager will confront you during lunch if your stress is too high and may offer you the afternoon off

Release Totals: 73008 words, 253 passages, 98 new achievements, over 25 new items

Minor:
  • fem_style boiless has been split into two parts - one for obtaining the "upgraded" bottle (new options for voluntary and money from researching boiless online), one for your acceptance of the brew generally (for old saves past this point both will assume same choice)
  • The initial "game over" scene at the start of the game if you reject her Matrix reference offer has been rewritten
  • New dildo: knotted penis, with associated task
  • Cum collecting is now handled in a uniform manner (ie: Trapper's initial gift is no longer infinite, it's shared with what you collect milking yourself)
  • Can now do shots/guzzle cum at home if you have sufficient supplies
  • If bimbo+penis > whoring+smart you'll compulsively work in the gloryhole without asking for pay (though may still get tips)
  • New dream if you have many fetishes > 10
  • New dream first night of the game (after meeting Antlers for the first time)

Additional Minor additions inspired by survey results:
  • fetish flag for use of the word futa/futanari
  • note next to link when gym bimbo/swolebro/martial arts unlock until you take them at least once
  • if you fail the maid test due to insufficient heels skill you'll get a hint to checkout the gym + said class will unlock (if you have unlocked the gym)
  • significantly reduced the frequency of the mall "elevator" event
  • option to permanently disable the manager water sports random event
  • if the autosave exists (game autosaves at the start of each day), the gameover screen presents the option to revert to such point
  • you can now thank your manager for "helping" with your bedroom remodel
  • there are now additional bedroom remodel options (text only, no art yet)
  • there is a new "impatient" mode available in the options, this should remove all timers from therapy, etc.
  • If you are at a max threshold you can now get a "hint" as to the next threshold
  • new "cheat" option for 10x xp gain
  • the prostitute character gets renamed if you disable the word "sissy"
  • better guidance at poker game on how to play without buy-in
  • streamlined inspections in stage 2 and 3 if you go 3+ days in a row without screwing up
  • player can now permanently give up their chastity key, starting in stage 3 (standard 4 fem_style unlocks, money is not presently obtainable except via 9001)
  • High smarts will give you hints re: drugs, and lunch delivery
  • Martial arts will grant more xp/session to compensate for its limited availability
  • Gym will auto-unlock if player triggers "Evil Bob" to prevent things breaking
  • Option to go straight home from work rather than elevator -> lobby -> city ->home
  • Option to talk to antlers about your therapy

Known Issues:
  • The game is not yet finished. Please take a look at the current build and changelog to see whats new!

If the download needs a password it is always the gamename, written in lower case.

have fun
 

UndeadEve

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Aug 22, 2017
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Does this game have any cheats or no ?
It does, in a weird way.
To enable the cheats you have to start a new game BUT you need to NOT start at the begining and while you're answering the question of "what you've done before now" you have a checkbox with "enable cheats".
Once it's done, you have a few cheats on the side.
 

ordep

Newbie
May 26, 2017
23
30
Hi, does anybody know how to advance on bestiality? I got bestiality maxed at 5. The wiki states that the next threshold is sucking off an actual horse (I already deepthroated the horse dildo and sent the pic). How do I find one? Haven't found that info anywhere yet
Nevermind me. I found it myself. I suppose it was a version thing as it was in one of the new random events in the latest version couple posts back :)
 

Malcowitz

Active Member
Feb 14, 2018
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Probably a dumb question but this is one of those games where you're just cucked further and further and caged without ever being able to get out of it right?
 

Maelstromukun

Newbie
Mar 11, 2018
50
25
Does this game have any cheats or no ?
Click options in the top right and then go to the Cheats section and check the enable debug menu box, a few buttons will pop up on the left tab. You can give yourself xp, money and if you know what the IDs are you can add items to your inventory and teleport to places.

Console Commands:
press f12 on chrome to go into console, and from there you can type in:
SugarCube.State.active.variables.player.money.total = (put in the amount you want to cheat in)
SugarCube.State.active.variables.player.timebased.fatigue/horny/stress = 0/100
 
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