reidanota

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Is there a way to share the girls freely but get a first of everything? Didn't want to block Luna from blowing clients but that means she'll do it with them before doing it with the MC. If things don't progress faster, it might lead to someone else popping her cherry - so do I need to set boundaries if I want to get there first? Can those be "unset" later?
 
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Is there a way to share the girls freely but get a first of everything? Didn't want to block Luna from blowing clients but that means she'll do it with them before doing it with the MC. If things don't progress faster, it might lead to someone else popping her cherry - so do I need to set boundaries if I want to get there first? Can those be "unset" later?
Hmm, good questions. I think the way things are, if you are freely sharing the girls then there is the possibility for them to do some actions with others first before MC. However, for taking virginity, it will always be MC's choice to do it himself as long as his confidence is high.
I hadn't considered being able to change boundaries later on after setting them, but I don't think that would be too hard to implement. Maybe have the occasional "check-in" scene with the girls and they can discuss how things are going with MC and decide if they want to change things.
I appreciate the feedback!
 

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Hmm, good questions. I think the way things are, if you are freely sharing the girls then there is the possibility for them to do some actions with others first before MC. However, for taking virginity, it will always be MC's choice to do it himself as long as his confidence is high.
I hadn't considered being able to change boundaries later on after setting them, but I don't think that would be too hard to implement. Maybe have the occasional "check-in" scene with the girls and they can discuss how things are going with MC and decide if they want to change things.
I appreciate the feedback!
Thanks for the reply! I guess as long as the MC gets the choice of taking their virginities, it feels in character, as long as he's freely sharing, to have him not mind if they experiment other stuff (barring anal) first :p The "check-in" scene makes a lot of sense and could have minimal impact if, for example, when you're asked if you're ok with the "next level" sharing, you're also asked about the "levels" you'd previously restricted. After all, while it makes sense to restrict kissing but allow other forms of physical contact, if that's your preference, it makes less sense to allow oral but not handjobs, so asking again about handjobs when you're asked about blowjobs, and so on, makes a lot of sense (but to each their own, if you make it possible, players could set temporary boundaries so they progress witth he girls first, but later give them permission).

I think you're going in a great direction and don't want to make suggestions that would derail that, so here's one that should probably have the lowest priority possible: while now the confidence build-up or removal makes sense as a way for the player to steer the story, how about implementing tradeoffs? Like a "confidence economy" where you can trade stuff that matters for confidence. For example, setting boundaries could cost 1 confidence - if the MC wants to be the greatest sharing chad there is, he's not bothered by petty boundaries, is he? I wonder if that would work. Could be offset by confidence-boosting events in the day but ultimately mean that on some days you may not have a net permanent confidence gain, or even have a net loss. Might make for a more dynamic gameplay? But would probably require a lot of testing to reach a good balance. Other aspects could be allowing the player to confess jealousy while interacting with the girls, which could lead to an cost+reward scenario, where you get a small bonus scene or a nice tease if you share a moment of insecurity with your girl. I don't mean a negative event but a positive one, she could feel aroused by making you jealous and even touched by your openness about it, so while it costs you -1 confidence, it gives you a hidden scene as a reward. Occasionaly, it could encourage the girl to give you a little extra ntrs tease, flirting with the idea of cheating your boundaries without going too far, with the single purpose to tease you and entirely controllable by your decisions. Or it could be a more romantic quick scene. A variety of both would be the most interesting. The idea is to make it not very consequential, but more of a chance to flavour your relationships roleplay wise, and to make use of an excess of confidence boosts to gain little interesting episodes - if this excess exists, as it seems, then you could keep a fully confident playthrough while "spending" a little extra confidence on these side episodes. Extra bonus scenes do cost time to write and produce, another good reason this would probably be a low priority, longer time frame idea to consider.

Best of luck!
 
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Thanks for the reply! I guess as long as the MC gets the choice of taking their virginities, it feels in character, as long as he's freely sharing, to have him not mind if they experiment other stuff (barring anal) first :p The "check-in" scene makes a lot of sense and could have minimal impact if, for example, when you're asked if you're ok with the "next level" sharing, you're also asked about the "levels" you'd previously restricted. After all, while it makes sense to restrict kissing but allow other forms of physical contact, if that's your preference, it makes less sense to allow oral but not handjobs, so asking again about handjobs when you're asked about blowjobs, and so on, makes a lot of sense (but to each their own, if you make it possible, players could set temporary boundaries so they progress witth he girls first, but later give them permission).

I think you're going in a great direction and don't want to make suggestions that would derail that, so here's one that should probably have the lowest priority possible: while now the confidence build-up or removal makes sense as a way for the player to steer the story, how about implementing tradeoffs? Like a "confidence economy" where you can trade stuff that matters for confidence. For example, setting boundaries could cost 1 confidence - if the MC wants to be the greatest sharing chad there is, he's not bothered by petty boundaries, is he? I wonder if that would work. Could be offset by confidence-boosting events in the day but ultimately mean that on some days you may not have a net permanent confidence gain, or even have a net loss. Might make for a more dynamic gameplay? But would probably require a lot of testing to reach a good balance. Other aspects could be allowing the player to confess jealousy while interacting with the girls, which could lead to an cost+reward scenario, where you get a small bonus scene or a nice tease if you share a moment of insecurity with your girl. I don't mean a negative event but a positive one, she could feel aroused by making you jealous and even touched by your openness about it, so while it costs you -1 confidence, it gives you a hidden scene as a reward. Occasionaly, it could encourage the girl to give you a little extra ntrs tease, flirting with the idea of cheating your boundaries without going too far, with the single purpose to tease you and entirely controllable by your decisions. Or it could be a more romantic quick scene. A variety of both would be the most interesting. The idea is to make it not very consequential, but more of a chance to flavour your relationships roleplay wise, and to make use of an excess of confidence boosts to gain little interesting episodes - if this excess exists, as it seems, then you could keep a fully confident playthrough while "spending" a little extra confidence on these side episodes. Extra bonus scenes do cost time to write and produce, another good reason this would probably be a low priority, longer time frame idea to consider.

Best of luck!
Again, I appreciate the feedback. Those are some solid ideas, I'll definitely consider adding them in if I can find the time to.
 

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it will always be MC's choice to do it himself
Choice is good, I don't want to be forced to do it first.
players could set temporary boundaries so they progress witth he girls first, but later give them permission
Importantly, there's no impact to sharing or cheating if you're not close with them. I want them sleeping around, and before I fuck them, but I don't want them doing it until they're actually my girlfriend. Changing boundaries over time is certainly one way to control the pacing on a personal preference level like that.
a "confidence economy" where you can trade stuff that matters for confidence.
A system like this can work very well in some cases. But in this implementation, not so sure. If anything, loosening your boundaries might cost confidence, as you're becoming more of a push-over. But it does depend on the tone of the scene itself when you make that choice. Very much a could-go-either-way idea.
Jealousy is good, we can also use more jealousy. Betrayal is good vibes too, but that requires them actually saying they wouldn't do it and then doing it anyway.
But anyway, jealousy does work well for some girls Some would be apologetic and want to diffuse your woes, reaffirm things, confront the idea of "we should talk about our boundaries right now then, I don't want to make you feel this way"
But some girls could lean into it. Maybe even fool around more or take it further whether it is because confessing your jealousy makes you look meek or because the jealousy is fun. One's partner being jealous makes them feel like a big focus, enjoying riling up, maybe just trying to see how far they can go. Jealousy can do a lot in myriad ways depending on the personality.
 
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A system like this can work very well in some cases. But in this implementation, not so sure. If anything, loosening your boundaries might cost confidence, as you're becoming more of a push-over.
Don't see loosening boundaries as being a push-over. To give free reign to your girlfriend doesn't mean you're being pushed to do so, I see it as a sign of strong trust and self-confidence, as in you're not afraid to push further, whereas setting those boundaries is at a minimum a measure of caution. I agree that setting doesn't have to be a sign of low confidence, any more than loosening them, it's just a game mechanics to turn a stat (confidence) into a sort of expendable currency.

I'm completely at odds with the majority's perception of couple dynamics as an alpha/beta (or dom/sub) dichotomy. If that's where this game will ultimately go, so be it, though at this point I see a potential for nuance that normally is absent.

I like jealousy strictly for the fun and thrill, within a safe relationship. I hate cruelty, bullying and abuse to a fault. I don't have an ounce of true sadism or masochism in me, other than what can be expressed in consensual roleplay - so even in stories, if I self-insert into the MC's shoes, I don't like true femdom or NTR, but won't mind to play short episodes where similar ideas are explored by the characters in roleplay. But not a full route of having to put up with a cruel girlfriend - I'd rather dump her and focus on someone else. I'd leave all the cruelty and abuse in the NTR route, but, as you say, there are lots of different possibilities and, as long as there's a way to opt-in and out of each (even through stats), the more the merrier.
 
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i think this problem was adressed before, but i think this is an actual bug and not a consequence of a action.
if you tell sadie to be exclusive, but share at least one girl and then go to the party with someone else, even when choosing not to use the asmo, you are still seeing sadie give a blowjob to xavier.

i mean, sure i didn't go with sadie to the party and are at least letting MMC pursue one other girl, what do i expect, but this should at least give off an entirely different reaction from the MMC once he sees it.
besides Aaron had high confidence, that should prevent netorare events, right?

another thing, it's kinda weird that you have to allow girls who are bi, to give guys handjobs, so that you can allow them to kiss girls.
i don't know, if you decide to make "check-in"s with the girls about boundaries, which is a really neat idea, maybe you could adjust for that?

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on a different note: great game so far! i really like the stats screen and the individualization of what you allow each girl to do. also looking forward to the pregnancy content in the future. your last game already had a cool mechanic to it, so excited to see what you will come up with this time!
 
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i think this problem was adressed before, but i think this is an actual bug and not a consequence of a action.
if you tell sadie to be exclusive, but share at least one girl and then go to the party with someone else, even when choosing not to use the asmo, you are still seeing sadie give a blowjob to xavier.

i mean, sure i didn't go with sadie to the party and are at least letting MMC pursue one other girl, what do i expect, but this should at least give off an entirely different reaction from the MMC once he sees it.
besides Aaron had high confidence, that should prevent netorare events, right?

another thing, it's kinda weird that you have to allow girls who are bi, to give guys handjobs, so that you can allow them to kiss girls.
i don't know, if you decide to make "check-in"s with the girls about boundaries, which is a really neat idea, maybe you could adjust for that?

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on a different note: great game so far! i really like the stats screen and the individualization of what you allow each girl to do. also looking forward to the pregnancy content in the future. your last game already had a cool mechanic to it, so excited to see what you will come up with this time!
Yes, I looked into the logic there and realized I was missing some parameters lol. Should be resolved in the next update.

I think the check-in system should help with that once it's implemented. It makes sense that for the bi girls the MC can choose to only share them with other girls instead of being forced to at least have HJs for guys enabled.

I appreciate all the feedback! :)
 
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Just finished Sharing is Caring (all route lol), i'm gonna be frank with you, your game has my favorite tags! (NTR, Swing, Pregnancy, Corruption etc.) and i love it, respect for you dev and i'm sure as hell gonna wait for this game to finish
 
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Do the stats change only at a certain points? I've already had multiple events where I could gain or lose confidence (I've chosen gain everytime so far) but my stats still shows it is at 0.
 

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Do the stats change only at a certain points? I've already had multiple events where I could gain or lose confidence (I've chosen gain everytime so far) but my stats still shows it is at 0.
You gain/lose temporary confidence throughout each in-game day, and at the end of the day if your temporary confidence is greater than 0 you gain 1 permanent confidence, or lose 1 if it's lower than 0. That is when the stat screen should update showing the new permanent confidence value.

If it's not doing that, then I need to take a look at the code to make sure it's working the way it's supposed to lol.
 
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