VN Ren'Py Secrets and Promises [v0.02] [badbod]

[TonyMurray]

Well, you say naturally...

Yeah, I just meant naturally for me, I wasn't insinuating that it would be natural for everyone, because I know for a fact that it's not (even before people started talking about it in this thread).

In terms of how the Dawn stuff is being discussed, I think the dev cleared it up quite well, and I'll put it along with my thoughts in spoilers, since the dev did eith his confirmation:

Dev said:
If you're on the Sarah path and didn't have the threesome - No. Dawn won't betray her best friend for you.
If you're on the Sarah path and did have the threesome - Yes. There will be times you visit without Sarah.
If you're not on the Sarah path - Yes. You will meet Dawn later in the game.

The way I see it, that's natural. If you're on Sarah's path, she got there first. Dawn isn't going to betray her friend by having sex with you. She might be friendly, and might even flirt a bit, but that doesn't mean she's DTF. If you have the threesome, Sarah might then give her blessing for you and Dawn to hook up again without her. If you're not on Sarah's path because you declined her offer of a lift, I believe dev said before that you would be able to meet Sarah later instead. He says here you can meet Dawn later if you don't do it here via Sarah. Perhaps you will meet Sarah and have some fun with her, and you will meet Dawn and have some fun with her, and none of you know that you each know the other two. Given that they talk, presumably it would come out later and it becomes a threesome opportunity or it's either a break from one of them or from both of them because they are friends first (sisters before misters).

But it definitely does make sense to lock Dawn content behind the threesome at the moment. If you're not having the threesome (either by choice or by just not being on Sarah's path), then you'll have to wait to meet Dawn later.

 

[badbod]

Okay, let me try and clear something up regarding the different routes...
If you're on the Sarah route, then you will meet Mary and Bill later - But these won't be the exact same interactions/scenes as the Mary route. They are completely different scenarios.
The same goes for the Mary route. On the Mary route, for example, you will get to know Dawn before Sarah.

Regarding Dawn on the Sarah route.
Some valid points have been raised, and I did originally promise that I wanted to create this VN with everything optional and all LI's available. So with that, I'll make sure Sarah and Dawn have a conversation later in the game.

 

[Dessolos]

hmmm I might need to make a new save. unless I get it on my other save I still need to play My MC met Dawn but no option for any kind of threesome came up and I think my other save is a Mary one so i'm not sure if I will meet here on that one (yet). I was kind of thinking I need to redo my saves to have 2 main saves and then 2 content saves anyways

 

[JoeTheMC84]

Okay, let me try and clear something up regarding the different routes...
If you're on the Sarah route, then you will meet Mary and Bill later - But these won't be the exact same interactions/scenes as the Mary route. They are completely different scenarios.
The same goes for the Mary route. On the Mary route, for example, you will get to know Dawn before Sarah.

Regarding Dawn on the Sarah route.
Some valid points have been raised, and I did originally promise that I wanted to create this VN with everything optional and all LI's available. So with that, I'll make sure Sarah and Dawn have a conversation later in the game.

That makes sense. Thanks for clarifying. I'll amend my posts above then so anyone coming in later can see you addressed it more clearly here. I had two save files, one with Sarah and one with Bill as the driver getting into town at the start. I was playing them both until I decided which I liked more to be my kind of "canon" path, which I was leaning towards Sarah for. But for folks who aren't doing that and just went with Sarah (and might not have realized there was a Bill option) it's probably a good idea not to lock them out based on one choice that is like the second choice in the game and then because they might not have a specific fetish.

Thanks again for the comment and answer. I really appreciate that you are active and take feedback and stuff, wish more devs were as open and up front as you and willing to engage. Looking forward to the next update.

 

[Mr-Mirari]

Okay, let me try and clear something up regarding the different routes...
If you're on the Sarah route, then you will meet Mary and Bill later - But these won't be the exact same interactions/scenes as the Mary route. They are completely different scenarios.
The same goes for the Mary route. On the Mary route, for example, you will get to know Dawn before Sarah.

Regarding Dawn on the Sarah route.
Some valid points have been raised, and I did originally promise that I wanted to create this VN with everything optional and all LI's available. So with that, I'll make sure Sarah and Dawn have a conversation later in the game.

great game man. good story and beautiful model. one question for you, in the tv scene if you look at the ass something change in this update or only in the future ?

 

[TonyMurray]

hmmm I might need to make a new save. unless I get it on my other save I still need to play My MC met Dawn but no option for any kind of threesome came up and I think my other save is a Mary one so i'm not sure if I will meet here on that one (yet). I was kind of thinking I need to redo my saves to have 2 main saves and then 2 content saves anyways

Yeah, no Dawn yet on the Mary route. For the threesome on the Sarah route, I think there are two options that lead to it (I don't know if you need to select both) - one is to say that you're fine with the girl-girl stuff (the alternative is the "eww" sort of response), and the second is to save that you're saving the mental image for later (as opposed to forgetting about it).

 

[Dessolos]

Yeah, no Dawn yet on the Mary route. For the threesome on the Sarah route, I think there are two options that lead to it (I don't know if you need to select both) - one is to say that you're fine with the girl-girl stuff (the alternative is the "eww" sort of response), and the second is to save that you're saving the mental image for later (as opposed to forgetting about it).

Yeah I think I was either off Sarah's path without even realizing or made a bad choice in the first release without realizing cause I don't think I would of ever said no to the girl - girl stuff other than by accident.

 

[dreddhead]

The scene where the MC 'persuades' Sarah to have Dawn join in was hot as fuck (even excepting the sex part of it). You have a hell of a way with words BadBod!

 

[NeoEros]

damn, I never knew there was a Mary route to begin with. So currently Sarah and Mary are mutually exclusive? Any chance that we could meet both in the future?

 

[TonyMurray]

Yeah I think I was either off Sarah's path without even realizing or made a bad choice in the first release without realizing cause I don't think I would of ever said no to the girl - girl stuff other than by accident.

I don't think you can meet Dawn if you're not on the Sarah path. Did you have sex with Sarah at Dawn's? Maybe if you don't fuck up the first night at Sarah's you can remain friends enough for the lift, but not friends enough for the benefits?

 

[TonyMurray]

damn, I never knew there was a Mary route to begin with. So currently Sarah and Mary are mutually exclusive? Any chance that we could meet both in the future?

Yes, Dev has confirmed you can meet Sarah on Mary's route and vice-versa, including a few posts up if you want the additional details. To get Mary's route from the start, you need to decline Sarah's offer of a lift after the gas station incident. Bill (Mary's grandfather) will then give you a lift in his rig instead.

 

[badbod]

I think there are two options that lead to it (I don't know if you need to select both)

That's right.
The first choice, you have two options:
Damn, wish I could've been there!
or
Not my kinda thing, but sounds like you had fun!

Neither of these choices is green in the Walkthrough because this is a personal choice.
The whole reason for this choice is to determine if you're into lesbian/threesome content.
If you choose not my kinda thing then you won't get the conversation about a threesome later in the evening.

 

[Dessolos]

I don't think you can meet Dawn if you're not on the Sarah path. Did you have sex with Sarah at Dawn's? Maybe if you don't fuck up the first night at Sarah's you can remain friends enough for the lift, but not friends enough for the benefits?

Honestly I don't remember if I had sex with her. But I think I probably didn't have sex cause I recall I didn't want to come across creepy and pushy with someone I just met. So I think I played my MC in way that comes across respectful and wanting to get know her first and not just after sex. As I think there was an option or something where if you go with it you end up sleeping on coach or she leaves the bed if you push things to far. So it gave me the impression you shouldn't push things to far or fast with her.

Apparently I had the walkthrough turned off so I probably did mess up in the first release somewhere

 

[TonyMurray]

Honestly I don't remember if I had sex with her. But I think I probably didn't have sex cause I recall I didn't want to come across creepy and pushy with someone I just met. So I think I played my MC in way that comes across respectful and wanting to get know her first and not just after sex. As I think there was an option or something where if you go with it you end up sleeping on coach or she leaves the bed if you push things to far. So it gave me the impression you shouldn't push things to far or fast with her.

Apparently I had the walkthrough turned off so I probably did mess up in the first release somewhere

Yeah, on the first evening with Sarah, you have to show interest (checking her out when she invites you to leave the sofa for her bed, checking out her ass in bed) without going too far (touching her up in bed after checking out her ass - just pull the covers back up instead). Then she will jump you in the morning.

I prefer not having the walkthrough on (I like to play blind the first time, and can always scroll back after a choice), but the thumbs up/down for the secret glances is a good inclusion.

 

[JoeTheMC84]

That's right.
The first choice, you have two options:
Damn, wish I could've been there!
or
Not my kinda thing, but sounds like you had fun!

Neither of these choices is green in the Walkthrough because this is a personal choice.
The whole reason for this choice is to determine if you're into lesbian/threesome content.
If you choose not my kinda thing then you won't get the conversation about a threesome later in the evening.

There might be a bug then?

Spoiler: In a spoiler in case I'm a dummy and I didn't understand what you said, but also keeping it here in case I understood and it is a bug:

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EDIT: Wait, I might have misunderstood what you are saying,

 

[TonyMurray]

There might be a bug then?

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EDIT: Wait, I might have misunderstood what you are saying,

"Wipe what" is definitely the choice that leads you to the threesome, so that's correct. Neither option is highlighted green in the first choice only. For the second choice, the walkthrough does what it should do and highlights the choice that leads to sex, because if you get there you have already made the decision that you're happy with threesome/lesbian scenes in that first choice.

 

[JoeTheMC84]

"Wipe what" is definitely the choice that leads you to the threesome, so that's correct. Neither option is highlighted green in the first choice only. For the second choice, the walkthrough does what it should do and highlights the choice that leads to sex, because if you get there you have already made the decision that you're happy with threesome/lesbian scenes in that first choice.

Yeah, I think I was slightly confused, but it is still odd, because saying "Wipe What?" and saying, "Nope! I'm keeping it for later!" both lead to the threesome scene so it is odd that only one is green. Maybe there is an underlying reason but since they get the same outcome it was odd to me. I got a little mixed up when Badbod was saying something about choices not being green, but he just meant the choice before that and not that both are supposed to be purely optional and not have a massive difference and just be preference (and before the dev said he would make sure a chance for Dawn still comes up if you don't want a threesome then rejecting the threesome was a big choice not just a simple preference but that's been resolved). So, even with my brain being a little dumb , it still might be a bug of some kind since both lead to sex but only one is green, idk just pointing it out.

 

[Mookys]

I've never seen a Citroën 2CV in an adult game before! What an original idea!
This car is great fun!

 

[badbod]

There might be a bug then?

Damn, you're right. (Thanks for finding it)
If you choose the saving it for later option, it increases Dawn's score. The other option doesn't.
BUT I forgot to check her score and only checked the threesome answer before determining which path to continue along.
Will be fixed in the next update.

 

[TonyMurray]

Yeah, I think I was slightly confused, but it is still odd, because saying "Wipe What?" and saying, "Nope! I'm keeping it for later!" both lead to the threesome scene so it is odd that only one is green. Maybe there is an underlying reason but since they get the same outcome it was odd to me. I got a little mixed up when Badbod was saying something about choices not being green, but he just meant the choice before that and not that both are supposed to be purely optional and not have a massive difference and just be preference (and before the dev said he would make sure a chance for Dawn still comes up if you don't want a threesome then rejecting the threesome was a big choice not just a simple preference but that's been resolved). So, even with my brain being a little dumb , it still might be a bug of some kind since both lead to sex but only one is green, idk just pointing it out.

Oh - well I'm also confused then, because I went on auto-pilot and didn't see actual issue being pointed out for the second choice (as dev has just responded to)!