VN Ren'Py Seducing the Devil [v0.12d] [DeafPerv]

[Avaron1974]

This story, it's like Inception or Matrix or Lilly Singh thinking she's a comedian .... some people get it, some don't.

Personally I love it.

 

[Aweful]

Oh, I get it. For the most part. The only thing I'm confused on is what are the relationships between all these characters. Seems like there's a "mom" and dad for the MC, an a couple aunts, one aunt with one kid and another aunt with 2 kids... Or maybe a close family member with 2 kids...? I think the dev(s) tried to slightly Quentin Tarantino with the beginning but it just made it difficult to understand what is actually happening. Also, the description for the game in the OP seems nothing like what's going on around Episode/Chapter 3. Is the plot to meet this chick in the US and prove worthiness to her family or save this person who is supposedly the MC's mother?

It's an interesting story, don't get me wrong but... It really is all over the place.

Comparing it to Inception is... bold. Nothing like the Matrix, that's for sure. xD

 

[Avaron1974]

Is the plot to meet this chick in the US and prove worthiness to her family or save this person who is supposedly the MC's mother?

Both.

Rachel is the MC's mother and Cherry is his daughter.


Chery is trying to break Lileva's hold over the MC but he needs to make the decisions himself. Whatever route he picks dictates how much influence Lileva has.

If he stays faithful to Ella or just picks Selina then she has no influence as it's just him focusing on 1 person and she'll have no chance to interfere.

If he tries to be a manwhore Lil can still fuck with him and Cherry can be less help.

Decisions also affect Cherry and how she ends up will play a massive role in how the game ends.

There is the possibility for her to go full on evil and kill nearly everyone.

As it stands at the moment Cherry is standing between Rachel and Lileva keeping her safe.

 

[Mormont]

I went with Veronica and Selina not sure if that was the best choice in terms of content or what but it was pretty enjoyable although I did have to remind myself of what happened in the previous update it's been a while. But finally on our way to see Ella at long last and even though she is my least favourite I'm more intrested how it will go down with Veronica and Selina there.

 

[EZ8lt]

I went with Veronica and Selina not sure if that was the best choice in terms of content or what but it was pretty enjoyable although I did have to remind myself of what happened in the previous update it's been a while. But finally on our way to see Ella at long last and even though she is my least favourite I'm more intrested how it will go down with Veronica and Selina there.

I checked out all 4, they roughly had the same amount of content and shared some story elements.

 

[Shadu]

the breakup with ella could of been better by having a reason to break up with her by exposing her and mother having sex behind mc back and in return then he sends them the sex tape of him and selina because i dont see how the ella path will work out since she basically already cheated on mc with the mom the whole time before mc and selina were a thing unless if im wrong ella and mc both messed around at the same time which will i guess make it ok but idk gotta see on ella path if she will mention her fucking her mom. unless add a twist option of having mc/ella/mom relationship telling the mc the story of why mom approached ella sexually because of her husband and mc might understand and let the mom continue their relationship but mc also get some from the mom or sister as well

 

[Aweful]

the revenge on ella could of been better by having a reason to break up with her by exposing her and mother having sex behind mc back and in return then he sends them the sex tape of him and selina because i dont see how the ella path will work out since she basically already cheated on mc with the mom the whole time before mc and selina were a thing unless if im wrong ella and mc both messed around at the same time which will i guess make it ok but idk gotta see on ella path if she will mention her fucking her mom. unless add a twist option of having mc/ella/mom relationship telling the mc the story of why mom approached ella sexually because of her husband and mc might understand and let the mom continue their relationship but mc also get some from the mom or sister as well

Lalalalala.... :holds ears:

 

[The_Sentinel]

So which of the four leads to helping Lilith? She's the only one I kinda care about in the whole Elle side story. And 2 of the 4 it seems like she gets the short end of the stick.

 

[Aweful]

All this talk about the Ella track is starting to remind me sort of the story line in Babysitter

 

[Avaron1974]

So which of the four leads to helping Lilith? She's the only one I kinda care about in the whole Elle side story. And 2 of the 4 it seems like she gets the short end of the stick.

Probably the first one, stay with Ella.

That's the only path you'll meet her on.

 

[Legendary101]

This whole story makes zero sense. Why is the MC so important. What was this ritual needed for in reality?? Why was the mc daughter needed to be created ?? If the mc could already be controlled to have sex even before this event which he was. Why could he have still not been controlled and just be used without the ritual.

Also, the MC girlfriend makes no sense. She freaks about him supposedly cheating, but gets railed nightly by her mom and is actually cheating before him. Literally fisted and she has issues with him cheating. ?? Some characters seem to react unusually just for the sake of it because it is just needed.

But yet again core plot, rachel is in the room of the mc helping evil supposed main villian at one point saying mc daughter needs to be stopped ..... if mc daughter is indeed good, then why ?? Have not played that scene in a while. But that is what I remember. Now it is a battle for MC soul where he is good or corrupted. But yet again, why ?? is there something down the pipeline to be revealed that the mc is some mystical being or vitally important for some reason or the main villian lady became infatuated with him or something, anything really to explain this.

Someone please explain how mc not banging women also saves rachels soul and frees her. Didn't she loose her soul years ago already because of wanting her parents killed and traded it off in that event.

Also why has the main evil lady villian and mc daughter supposedly merged and now control 50% each. none of this makes sense. The only thing I can fathom is the MC has some power or lineage that has not been revealed yet.

I could if I needed replay it as it has been a while and pull out a lot of things that make no sense and structure this more clearly. But just pointing out some stuff off the top of my head, which don't add up. Granted, people could say it is just a porn game, and it would be valid. But I feel people play these types of games also as story must come into play.

For this game the renders are great, sex scenes great, but the plot so far is throwing me off a bit. Wish some things would be cleaned up a bit or better explained in the future. I would like to think these things are thought about and there is a resolution down the line. Hopefully.

 

[bb12308]

and another Game deleted !

Just add the variable to the script, that's what I did and my old save files worked

 

[Avaron1974]

The only thing I can fathom is the MC has some power or lineage that has not been revealed yet.

Nope, you answered your own question.

His mother is the important one, he just happens to have a penis that feeds Cherry and Lil with all the sex he has. She made the deal and started fucking her son. He's basically a demon battery charger.

They wanted Cherry stopping because she got too powerful.

Him being free and having an insanely powerful daughter protecting him wasn't the plan and that's the whole reason big demon bitch got pissed off and reset everything, Cherry was never supposed to surpass her.

Ella gets upset with him cheating the same reason people on these forums cry NTR when they see one of their LI's fucking someone else despite them banging a town full of women .... who the hell wants to share?

Basically Cherry and Lileva are in a fight for dominance and it all depends on the MC's choices. If he picks the good set of choices then Lileva can't interfere and Cherry can keep Rachel safe. If he picks the other set, I can't say bad cos they aren't but "less pure" would be the closest, then Lileva has more chances to interfere.

 

[Legendary101]

Avaron1974

In response

I think you are just filling in plot holes yourself, which is fine. If you say he has a penis to feed their power. they could of got that power anywhere else. Also he was supposedly a virgin before they messed with him. So it not as if he was a massive power source and the the main villain lady really needed to tap into him. She could of found better sources.

You say the mother is so important. Why ?? explain in detail, just because the game is making that out, sadly it would need to be held up with a back story. Why is she important. Her soul was claimed already and the main villian wanted to supposedly punish her. So she never had power or leverage to begin with.

If cherry needed stopping, why create her then ?? What is the difference in Rachels eyes of cherry having power and control compared to the main evil villain having absolute power and still destroying rachels and mc lives. So by weakening the one person who could save them, what is there to be gained. She is already damned regardless with main evil villain ?? Why not gamble and hope for a better outcome because she is no worse off the other way.

seems a bit counter productive no ?? I mean they already controlled him, why is she needed.

I understand you have your own theories or interpretation, which is fine. I just wish reasoning would start to show in the game.

Your interpretation of the mc girlfriend reasoning if fair enough. You could be right, I just wish the story would start to play these events out and reasoning in the future. That is my hope.

 

[Avaron1974]

I think you are just filling in plot holes yourself, which is fine

I haven't filled anything in, it's all explained in the game.

His aunt explains what happened with Rachel and the deal she made with Lileva. He wasn't a virgin either, his mother had fucked him but he doesn't remember, Lileva blocked the memories.

What happened with Cherry was a mistake. She was supposed to be obedient but she did the one thing she wasn't born to do, she fell in love with her father. She was supposed to breed with him but because he didn't love her back she stopped it then risked her life to save him, that happened just before he had sex with her.

Having sex and showing her love broke Lileva's hold over Cherry and gave her more power than she should have had.

Lileva is a goddess, Cherry wasn't designed to have that much power, it all went wrong thus the reversal.

The only thing not fully explained is Jason's role in all this. The only people the dev has confirmed not under Lileva's control are Ella and her mother, I assume Lilith too.

Not sure about Selina as she's also a good choice Cherry wanted him to pick.

Put simply, Cherry wants him to pick love, Lileva wants the whole fuck fest. I've been playing for a year, that's all stuff that's in the game.

Granted it is a theory over why Ella was pissed at him but it's the only one that makes sense. I can't say I blame Ella given her mothers circumstances but we still don't know what she did to her husband to take over his business. I guess she either had him killed or did it herself.

I also don't know the role of the girl with the short red hair though it seems she's also a demon. Whether she's there to keep Jason in line or not I have no idea.

Jason is another I have no guesses about. He knows Selina will never sleep with him yet still agrees to go out with her. She's doing it to get MC jealous and that's all I know from what she said. I also have no idea about his role in the bigger picture.

There is still a lot of story left to go so not everything is going to be explained. Some of the threads will take time to clarify.

 

[Legendary101]

Avaron1974


In response I think he was a virgin according to the main villian lady. My reference is the game when the main villian lady refused to let him loose his virginity at the beginning with his friend to save it for the ritual. There is a scene where she states it to the best of my recollection. if that is not the case, then what is all the drama about it being needed for the ritual and why is she saying it, there is no reason for it then as a plot point. Also one of the controlled female characters at the beginning states it saying that she won't let it happen. I think the evil father was shown visions of cheating though in order to corrupt him and get him under control after he died.

Rachel as well freaks out in the scene where cherry saves the mc from certain death as just as he was about to die. Rachel starts raving that cherry is out of control for no reason, when all that happened in that scene was cherry saying back off I don't want to harm anyone but I will do anything to save the mc. Rachel instantly flips a switch and says she needs to be stopped with no plot to even back that up or reasoning, unless it comes later. So my reasoning is if mc and rachel were going to die. What is the worst cherry could do that has not been done. Makes no sense to want cherry to loose or be stopped. These are plot holes to me and everything else I have said from my perspective.

But hey, maybe I am wrong and just thinking about it from the wrong viewpoint. I did enjoy reading your responses and your perspective. Everything can always be interpreted in different ways and my views are not above anyone elses. cheers for discussing it with me though. Always good to see different interpretations. I agree also, lots of story to go and all these things could be addressed and left for big reveals later.

 

[Euron13]

So, does the Incest Patch work with the new update?

 

[Avaron1974]

In response I think he was a virgin according to the main villian lady. My reference is the game when the main villian lady refused to let him loose his virginity at the beginning with his friend to save it for the ritual.

"Your son almost took Riley's virginity, we can't have him take someone's virginity before the ritual".

Riley was, he wasn't.

Those are the exact words, they are up on my monitor.

Rachel as well freaks out in the scene where cherry saves the mc from certain death as just as he was about to die. Rachel starts raving that cherry is out of control for no reason, when all that happened in that scene was cherry saying back off I don't want to harm anyone but I will do anything to save the mc. Rachel instantly flips a switch and says she needs to be stopped with no plot to even back that up or reasoning, unless it comes later. So my reasoning is if mc and rachel were going to die. What is the worst cherry could do that has not been done. Makes no sense to want cherry to loose or be stopped. These are plot holes to me and everything else I have said from my perspective.

Rachel is Lileva's bitch. She is right until Cherry gets her out. She's under Lileva's control 100% until then.

 

[Aweful]

"Your son almost took Riley's virginity, we can't have him take someone's virginity before the ritual".

Riley was, he wasn't.

Those are the exact words, they are up on my monitor.

I think it was poorly written. "Your son almost took Riley's virginity." That means Riley's important. But, she's not. The MC is and he's still a virgin. So in actuality, it should of been "Riley almost took [MC]'s virginity." Which, with how it played out, would've looked funny in itself. Perhaps this is where the confusion comes in, cause it's hard to understand with how much of the dialogue is poorly written.

Right?

Also, I don't mean to bash on how it's all compiled together. It's kinda half-ass but, it's fun. I'm enjoying it so far. So fuck it, right! With that said, I feel like some people might be asking for too much. Maybe go pick up a copy of a higher production value story like "50 Shades of Grey" or some shit if you want "perfection." (I've never seen or read that shit so I could be wrong about its value )

 

[Legendary101]

Avaron1974

My response. I don't know, he kind of states am I going to loose my virginity through anal sex to the friend. So he probably was a virgin. So he was not a great source to begin with for sexual energy.

Also to get to that realm he would have to have given in to lust which is stated in the game. He gave into lust under mind control in the scene banging his friend and the others after rachel goes missing. so the evil villain lady acts like they have met for the first time in the sequence with rachel and her. so if he had given into lust with the mother before, they would have already met, as he could of been brought to that realm already because lust with the mother. Plus Rachel already would have got what she wanted back then if that was the case, why go through the hoops of needing the evil villains help if she had what she needed ?? rachel also says "Finally I can't wait" so that hints to me at least this will be something new for her which is the importance of this ritual she. she even says her wish of finally taking his dick down her throat will finally be realised. why is she talking like this if this is not their first time. you think that would of been done already? You can understand why I think these things at least.

Also the whole thing was designed so he would go looking for rachel to give into lust to go to that realm. So I would always just have to go with what I see and assume unless evidence is provided he did not bang the mother and in his mind is a virgin and his first meeting the the evil villian is just then after being given into lust.

That is my reasoning, but you can think different, no problem.

Rachel when kneeling beside the evil villian says things that contradict her, so that to me shows she had independent thought and her own views. So with past history suggesting she is not fully mind controlled and has shown independent thought. I guess I just have to still conclude that scene with how she went against cherry was a plot hole. If you are damned already. you may as well try the alternative which was cherry who wanted to help the mc.