Seduction Vs Corruption

[MissCougar]

Honestly I barely remember. It's been at least 3 and a half decades since I took someone's virginity. I can only remember two times. Both would be classified as unpleasant from a pure sexual standpoint, but on a connection level much higher. I guess it really comes down to how the people handle it. Being supportive can lead to dividends relationship wise.

If you're not on some weird one night stand, and usually a virgin is not, yea the assumption is there is true love going on. Some people wait a long time for sex... maybe too long. So I guess it could be a variety of things!

 

[Saerwen]

Time for another PSA, I think?

Do vaginas stretch? Yes and no. They DO stretch from large insertions. Temporarily. This is why you should go slower in the beginning with... large things. Now, some people believe they can stretch permanently. No, they can't. Others believe they snap right back into shape after sex. No, they don't. It can take days to a week to go back to its natural tightness, whatever that may be. (Depends on lifestyle, fitness, etc.) This is why some women, who aren't virgins, can still experience pain during sex, even with ample lubrication.

The paper on female anatomy is due on Monday.

Or you could implement a class like that in your own game for real educational purpose?

 

[Insomnimaniac Games]

Or you could implement a class like that in your own game for real educational purpose?

My game has characters that use pain suppressing and orgasm inducing magic. Real world anatomy knowledge isn't applicable.

 

[MissCougar]

On the male side here, but for my current girlfriend it was both pleasurable and painful. She didn't expect it at the time, so there was some initial shock, but I had been going down on her before so it was already quite wet down there and slid in pretty easily. Turns out she's also the type of person who can cum just from penetration (I think that's uncommon based on what I've read online?), so after a few times she started getting pretty overstimulated and stopped being quite so wet.

I was also quite inexperienced at the time, so as I got more into it I did the rough "pounding" you mentioned in your other reply that ended up turning a bit painful since the natural lubrication was starting to wear off. By the end she was sore and out of breath, which I felt pretty bad for, but she wanted to go again ASAP. Bad idea obviously, so we just stuck to the outercourse stuff.

As for the aftermath, to this day she is still consistently the one initiating things! So I like to imagine that, despite the discomfort and pain near the end, it's because her first experience was nice.

Sounds like you did pretty darn good!

That initial penetration feels real good. The sawing can be good too but it is definitely harder to get off vaginally than by clit stimulation, at least for me.

I was so nervous though I'm not even sure I remember when I started to cum during sex. wasnt the first few times and I think the first time I did get off it was almost more of a surprise and I think remember I cried. These emotions can mess me up!

 

[tanstaafl]

If you're not on some weird one night stand, and usually a virgin is not, yea the assumption is there is true love going on. Some people wait a long time for sex... maybe too long. So I guess it could be a variety of things!

I mean, I was a teen at the time. I didn't start the weird one night stands until I was well into my twenties.

 

[WantonWhimsy]

Too often it's just a stupid concept (IN MY HUMBLE OPINION) relying on the belief girls/women are these docile bumbling creatures who must be sufficiently corrupted to want sex. Admittedly many devs dont read into it that much and just use it as a catch-all proxy for "fill up this bucket of points to achieve mc's goals".

Whenever I see yet another twine/text game about corrupting a female MC in her late teens who is so pure she thinks dildos actually are muscle massagers, I can't help but roll my eyes. Especially when the description says the player decides whether she stays pure or turns into a depraved slut. We already know that way lies a bad end. As if any dev is going to waste time making a purity path for a porn game.

 

[Saerwen]

Whenever I see yet another twine/text game about corrupting a female MC in her late teens who is so pure she thinks dildos actually are muscle massagers, I can't help but roll my eyes. Especially when the description says the player decides whether she stays pure or turns into a depraved slut. We already know that way lies a bad end. As if any dev is going to waste time making a purity path for a porn game.

Um, I didn't know sex toys exist until I stared reading erotic fiction.

 

[anne O'nymous]

Um, I didn't know sex toys exist until I stared reading erotic fiction.

Wait, you thought that they were really face massager?

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Wait, you thought that they were really face massager?

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Does it cure hysteria though?

 

[anne O'nymous]

Does it cure hysteria though?

It used too, yes. But it need the help of a doctor, because then it become a medical act.


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, since it was believed that the cure was to give an orgasm to the patient.

 

[Saerwen]

Wait, you thought that they were really face massager?

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Nope, I didn't know about them really.

 

[Saerwen]

Wait, you thought that they were really face massager?

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Any woman who never saw sex toys would think that a vibrator is a face/body massager. Women always think about beauty of their face/body first. Looking pretty and youthful is our the most important priority.

 

[MissCougar]

Um, I didn't know sex toys exist until I stared reading erotic fiction.

Any woman who never saw sex toys would think that a vibrator is a face/body massager. Women always think about beauty of their face/body first. Looking pretty and youthful is our the most important priority.

I don't think I owned a toy until like my mid twenties. There was no point to it and all that stuff had a naughty context to it that if you had a dildo or something you were a slutty ho.

My first toy wasn't even an official toy, it was like some weird back massager with prongs that I finally tried to do something fun with.

Getting past the mindset lf toys are naughty, and then over the hurdle of getting off with a toy isn't bad, was tough for me. Not that I was innocent- my fingers were well used, i just did not want a toy and I would have been mortified if someone found it.

 

[EvolutionKills]

Wait, you thought that they were really face massager?

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Unironically based retro advert that bucks the 'Pink Tax' by actually charging more for the men's version.

 

[WantonWhimsy]

Um, I didn't know sex toys exist until I stared reading erotic fiction.

That's fair. I'd still posit that you weren't turned into a depraved nymphomaniac spending all her time in a glory hole because you discovered them.

Unironically based retro advert that bucks the 'Pink Tax' by actually charging more for the men's version.

I had always assumed that was code for different sizes as opposed to an actual men's version. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[tanstaafl]

That's fair. I'd still posit that you weren't turned into a depraved nymphomaniac spending all her time in a glory hole because until you discovered them.

fixed.

 

[suprisedcrankyface]

A couple more cents for the discussion:

• Seduction is the act of enticing or tempting someone into sexual activity.
• Corruption is the action of making someone or something "morally depraved" or the state of being so.

The act of seduction itself wouldn't necessarily render someone "morally depraved". For example, a rom-com heroine might seduce their college sweetheart who had them in the friend-zone for the last decade. Said sweetheart didn't start fucking everyone in sight, and the outcome of a seduction might even be considered a "good" thing with a Happily Ever After™ ending.

Seduction could be used as a method of corrupting a person though, which is a prominent trope in porn games.

I had a quick think about it again and my final thoughts are

1) Corruption is an outcome
2) Seduction is a method

So they are not exclusive, and other methods can also result in corruption, whilst seduction can be used a number of ways that may/may not result in corruption.

That's fair. I'd still posit that you weren't turned into a depraved nymphomaniac spending all her time in a glory hole because you discovered them.

Well if you knew what a glory hole was before you learnt about the other stuff, there would be some questions

 

[anne O'nymous]

Any woman who never saw sex toys would think that a vibrator is a face/body massager. Women always think about beauty of their face/body first. Looking pretty and youthful is our the most important priority.

I always knew that my wife wasn't totally normal (I mean, she had chosen me...), but not to this point. She had a bit of experience when I encountered her, but mostly deceiving and bought a face massager precisely because of this. And it was in the early 90's, so before sex toys actually became something acceptable (at least here).

[...] I would have been mortified if someone found it.

Know that it would have been as embarrassing for the person who find it. Few years ago I was at my daughter home and, passing in front on her bedroom I saw her cat knocking off something. Being a nice dad, I picked it up and... well, my daughter own a bottle of sex toy cleaning lotion...

 

[Saerwen]

I always knew that my wife wasn't totally normal (I mean, she had chosen me...), but not to this point. She had a bit of experience when I encountered her, but mostly deceiving and bought a face massager precisely because of this. And it was in the early 90's, so before sex toys actually became something acceptable (at least here).




Know that it would have been as embarrassing for the person who find it. Few years ago I was at my daughter home and, passing in front on her bedroom I saw her cat knocking off something. Being a nice dad, I picked it up and... well, my daughter own a bottle of sex toy cleaning lotion...

Omg, imagine if she walked in... Talking about being awkward, but her mistake is to put a bottle on the night stand. It's one thing when you live alone, but I'm assuming you live together, so she's ain't that young to not know this. Nvm, I reread that she lives alone, but still... Always keep your intimacy in private and locked because you never know who might see it!

 

[anne O'nymous]

Omg, imagine if she walked in... Talking about being awkward, but her mistake is to put a bottle on the night stand. It's one thing when you live alone, but I'm assuming you live together, so she's ain't that young to not know this.

She was already living on her own; she was 21 or so at that time. And, strictly speaking it's just a bottle with some liquid inside, so not something really suspicious if you don't have it in hand with the description right in front of your eyes.
Would have been worse if it was directly what it's supposed to clean, something that, by chance, wasn't in plain sight.