You guys do know that there is a heroine reset button if you pause the game right??? If a creature zips them outside the map, hit ESC and push reset.
Unreal Engine Seed of the Dead 2: Sweet Home + Charm Song DLC [v2.10] [TeamKRAMA]
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Strictly speaking, none of the girls are promiscuous in the conventional sense. The first game established that people with immunity, especially natural immunity, have a much stronger libido than normal. It was why the 1st game's MC was literally capable of fucking non-stop whenever he wanted, and why the original 3 girls could get off even from being raped. Hikari's bond events also give a reminder of that condition, and express the fact that the people that are vaccinated also get this to some extent or another.
The MC of this game is vaccinated, and doesn't get the side-effect as hard as some those of natural immunity, which is, as far as I've been able to grasp, the main reason why he can't fuck non-stop the way the 1st Game's MC could.
The game doesn't really establish if Ichika or Einomaru are vaccinated or naturally immune. I'd say Ichika at least is vaccinated, given the hints in the main story. Regardless of which it is, they too would have a naturally heightened libido, which is why Ichika can't really resist guitar man once she gets a taste of his D due to the MC's intervention. It's not that she's promiscuous, it's that her body betrays her regardless of what her brain thinks. It's like doing drugs. You can have as much willpower as you want, and you can resist the addiction while not directly under the influence, but you can't actually stop the effects of the drugs once they're administered. In this case, the girls can't resist the pleasure once something starts groping them or outright fucking them, even if outside of those time, they can think rationally.
Aya is especially bad, if only because on top of the effects of her immunity, she's also a masochist so she gets off on being treated like a dick-sleeve...
I mean, I wouldn't mind the spiders if they didn't have weird bugs. Dunno if you played the game at launch, but back then, the worms could eat a girl and run through a wall, and you could literally do nothing when that happened. Even Ichika's ult didn't work all the time, if she even targeted the thing in time before it got too far. Worse, this could happen from Act1, when you didn't even have Ichika, so you had to be obsessively on the lookout for the worms even on Easy difficulty because they could easily lead to a game over.TBF I like these spiders, they seem fun! OFC if they clip through the wall or the floor then it's obviously stupid glitch but so far I didn't have such issues except for one spider being stuck behind a wall and not being able to do anything. If you encounter these issues often try having Ichika in the party with the buff constantly active. She should be able to snipe them down.
And wait till you see act 13 boss...
The first time it just clipped through the floor, the second it took of into the sky and never came down...
Nevermind the thousands of zombies that are actively waving the glowsticks making my PC have a meltdown whenever I look up from the ground. I knew DLC is gonna be too much for my PC that it's gonna be a real horror show
I just cannot go past 60% HP of that thing because it's too heavy for my PC. It feels like I'm trying to beat a boss in a powerpoint
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Remembering those times is why I had such a strong reaction to this particular incident.
As for Act 13... Hmmm.... Dunno how my laptop will handle that. I've been playing on Ultra and didn't have any serious problems so far. From my testing, when any big frame drops or stuttering happened, it wasn't because of the graphics, but because the game is optimized like a turd. Basically, if it happened on Ultra, it also happened on the lowest graphic settings because it wasn't due to the graphics, but rather, because the game gets weird sometimes when spawning a lot of zombies at the same time or doing transitions or a number of things.
If I decide to continue and not just grab a full save, I guess I'll see how it works out...
That button doesn't work when any of the girls are engaged in combat. It's not meant to save the girls from grapples and the like, but from getting stuck on terrain or refusing to move from rooms or any number of things that causes them to glitch. This is because the grapples are not meant to take girls out of the map or silly stuff like that.
They fixed the last instance of shit like this happening, aka with the worms, which at launch could grab a girl and run off into the sunset out of range of everyone.
Depending on how frequently the spiders bug out, they'll likely fix them eventually like they did with the worms... but I'm not sure if I'll care about the game long enough to see that happen.
Yeah I remember having to instantly chase after the worms way back when I played years ago. I had forgotten that they did that.
Still, Ichika doesn't strike me as a person who will cheat on her lover, regardless of her libido.
no, it's not about these settings, it's about this thing
the settings are meant to make it easier though so just visit your Preferences after clicking your profile icon on the top right and look for the search options.
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thanks
I'm curious about the animations but this game is so god awful otherwise that I couldn't bare any more than 10 minutes of this shit
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Well, I decided that I can't be assed to deal with Act12 while those dumb spiders are annoying, and seeing as Team Krama released a version 2.09 and will likely be releasing more fixes for various things... I decided that I'll be dropping this game for a while and check back again... I dunno... in another year?
Maybe they'll make a unified gallery by then... Or at least improve the translation for the Charmsong stuff, because right now, it's horrible.
In the mean time, I briefly loaded a save that's a tad more complete than mine to check the three T5 NTR events that I was missing... and yep, I was right, they all follow the same pattern as before. The girls absolutely love the MC more than any of the guys that supposedly cuck them from him, and generally, they prefer to stick with the MC while those other guys are just convenient meat dildoes for when MC is not available.
Hell, Hikari and Ichika literally kick the supposed 'bull' out of the room to fuck the MC after he spends time watching them. Einomaru explicitly says that sex with the MC is better than with the other guy and basically begs him to keep fucking her a lot... So on and so forth.
Seriously, it was pretty obvious even before these events... but the only real cucks here are the other guys. Because being a second best meat dildo is infinitely more humiliating than what MC gets. Hell if he stuck with any single girl, rather than fucking around with all five, he'd keep that one girl from cheating ever again. Particularly Ichika, Hikari and Einomaru. Kirara's possible, but would require MC to be significantly more assertive. Aya's possible, but he'd need to keep an eye on her because she's the kind of pushover that gets wet from being bent over a table by a guy with a hard on and can't resist at all because of her masochism and the particular strength of her immunity boosted libido.
Do actual netorare fans actually like this set-up? I'm really curious to hear some opinions here... Because for me, who's primarily interested in the corruption and slutification aspects of NTR, these scenes are a letdown beyond adding some more variety. I will however give points for Kirara's T5 scene where the MC and the fatass fuck her together and fill all of her holes with cum. That one was really good.
For me, it's kind of like, if they promised to add tentacles, but then all the tentacles scenes only involve limb restraints and vaginal penetration without any extended groping or multi-penetration. As a tentacle fan being promised tentacle content, I'd have been pissed as one of their supporters... so I'm curious how their addition of "NTR" actually went.
Maybe they'll make a unified gallery by then... Or at least improve the translation for the Charmsong stuff, because right now, it's horrible.
In the mean time, I briefly loaded a save that's a tad more complete than mine to check the three T5 NTR events that I was missing... and yep, I was right, they all follow the same pattern as before. The girls absolutely love the MC more than any of the guys that supposedly cuck them from him, and generally, they prefer to stick with the MC while those other guys are just convenient meat dildoes for when MC is not available.
Hell, Hikari and Ichika literally kick the supposed 'bull' out of the room to fuck the MC after he spends time watching them. Einomaru explicitly says that sex with the MC is better than with the other guy and basically begs him to keep fucking her a lot... So on and so forth.
Seriously, it was pretty obvious even before these events... but the only real cucks here are the other guys. Because being a second best meat dildo is infinitely more humiliating than what MC gets. Hell if he stuck with any single girl, rather than fucking around with all five, he'd keep that one girl from cheating ever again. Particularly Ichika, Hikari and Einomaru. Kirara's possible, but would require MC to be significantly more assertive. Aya's possible, but he'd need to keep an eye on her because she's the kind of pushover that gets wet from being bent over a table by a guy with a hard on and can't resist at all because of her masochism and the particular strength of her immunity boosted libido.
Do actual netorare fans actually like this set-up? I'm really curious to hear some opinions here... Because for me, who's primarily interested in the corruption and slutification aspects of NTR, these scenes are a letdown beyond adding some more variety. I will however give points for Kirara's T5 scene where the MC and the fatass fuck her together and fill all of her holes with cum. That one was really good.
For me, it's kind of like, if they promised to add tentacles, but then all the tentacles scenes only involve limb restraints and vaginal penetration without any extended groping or multi-penetration. As a tentacle fan being promised tentacle content, I'd have been pissed as one of their supporters... so I'm curious how their addition of "NTR" actually went.
This one is useful specially whenever the companion's AI gets locked besides a car or a bench
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I'm rather a netorase fan, which means I'm not into those hardcore NTR scenarios where the MC loses everything in the end. But overall I have no problem with that when a game combining the netorase with the netorare as long as the story is well structured. The problem is that here the change is too sudden and happens without any signs, and the game switches to netorase practically within a moment. When a genre changes that much in a story, the minimum is to have a little gradation and build-up. But what bothered me the most was that the MC accepted too easily the fact that he had been cheated on, and he was unrealistically open to the whole situation.
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To me, even before the DLC, these scenes always gave huge netorase vibes, despite not technically being it, so I don't really understand all you guys surprised when it ultimately went that way (which I also agree, it is a shame, but whatever).
I mean, think, MC had to fetch the damned items like a dog, delivering the very same things that trigger the NTR, and he was all friendly buddy-like with the bastards, and even pushed them on the girls to make "new friends", etc.
Also, this MC gives off more of a sub/cuck aura in general, in contrast with the MC of the 1st game, who was more like "Chad Thunder-Cock".
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In fact that was exactly what made the whole basic idea ridiculous. In the genre until the fourth scene there was no indication that the MC has a sharing fetish. He is simply just a friendly weak-minded person who unconditionally does what the bulls ask him to do. Then out of nowhere, without any signs it suddenly turns out that he actually enjoys the sharing, and from then on everyone lives happily ever after.
They connected the two NTR genres as if the infidelity was the most natural thing in the world. The devs literally skipped those details that would have indicated to us that the genre will change, and the story didn't just move over, but ran over into the netorase's direction.
But actually the real problem started there when the entire NTR was limited to this item delivery quests. Still, how can we expect a genre to be enjoyable, or to be able to renew itself, if even the 5th scene is also about collect something.. The entire storyline limits itself by connecting each event to a "missing" object.
BTW How far did you go through the act 12? I went through on my first try ofc but through the part where they just dump the toxic water on you I just sprinted through all the floors without looking back and never stopping for anything just because I couldn't be bothered with it
BTW For people wondering about the save compatibility. From old versions forward it seems all good, and from version 1.33 going back it's all compatible, however once you get Einomaru unlocked in the new version/dlc you'd best be holding back if you want to go to old version without the DLC installed.
It launched and I could retire without any crashes though.
The new girl gets her stats/inv etc wiped and if you have her in the stage party it bugs with Hikari's image on it and 999 health.
Didn't see if it was in fact second Hikari though as I just didn't care at the time, just wanted to do some other tests with the older cheat table
Although it did not crash please do keep in mind as it may have some other unforeseen consequences.
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I didn't get to the part you're referencing. I didn't even make it to the check-point. I probably could finish the Act if I was careful and/or rushed through it... but I just can't be assed, especially since rushing would be a tad hard while hunting for all the NTR items that pop up in there, even with guides and olfaction to make finding them easier... I had 3 more items to find on a single run... and then I'd have to do a second run because Einomaru has TWO of her stupid fetch quests there because the devs were lazy as fuck with their ideas...BTW How far did you go through the act 12? I went through on my first try ofc but through the part where they just dump the toxic water on you I just sprinted through all the floors without looking back and never stopping for anything just because I couldn't be bothered with it
BTW For people wondering about the save compatibility. From old versions forward it seems all good, and from version 1.33 going back it's all compatible, however once you get Einomaru unlocked in the new version/dlc you'd best be holding back if you want to go to old version without the DLC installed.
It launched and I could retire without any crashes though.
The new girl gets her stats/inv etc wiped and if you have her in the stage party it bugs with Hikari's image on it and 999 health.
Didn't see if it was in fact second Hikari though as I just didn't care at the time, just wanted to do some other tests with the older cheat table
Although it did not crash please do keep in mind as it may have some other unforeseen consequences.
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Can't comment on the other stuff, dunno why anyone would want to downgrade to MORE bugs rather than less... Especially when there's a full save from 2.06 a little while back in the thread that has all the acts complete, all the skills bought, all the scenes open and all that jazz...
Yeeeaaaaaah... The story there is really half-assed... but to be 100% fair... each affection line for each girl is ALSO half-assed...
A lot of said half-assery is because they didn't implement a system that accounts for where each girl's relationship is at in relation to one another. As such, none of the girls ever become full out officially labeled girlfriends and/or lovers.
As for MC accepting their cheating too quickly... I didn't think too much about that, mainly because I believe in equality, and hey, HE literally cheated first by fucking every single available hoe in the party. None of them explicitly agree to be in a harem, even with that half-assed harem room that doesn't really set-up anything at all. So him accepting that they have meat-dildoes on the side while he has free access to five pussies whenever he wants seemed like the least jarring part of this whole ridiculous set-up.
>Chad Thunder-Cock ---- I am reminded of that one youtube review of the first game... 'Twas utterly hilarious.
Leaving that aside. I wasn't particularly surprised by the direction things went, mainly because the devs simply didn't commit to having genuine NTR in the first place even before Charmsong became a thing. The dicks of the guys are the same size as the MC. The reactions of the girls in relation to the MC don't change at all during the 1st 3 events. The progression of the events itself was extremely lame...
So eeeeeeeh.... I'm not surprised... but that doesn't mean that I wasn't disappointed by the fact that they just shoved this in and didn't properly commit to it.
In general, a lot of the H-content feels half-assed tbh, even leaving aside the whole lack of unified gallery.
Even the affection paths for the girls are half-assed. Not a single one of them fully commits to officially dating the MC... because they can't. Since then they'd have to have some kind of system to account for each girl's affection levels and how they react to one or another entering into relationships with the MC. Even the Harem room thing is incredibly half-assed, doesn't actually establish how or why the girls decide to share the MC or work together in fucking him and of course it doesn't include Einomaru, which the game kind of half-assedly tries to justify by making her the possessive and jealous type... but they don't do anything with that even when the MC is fucking every other girl in the party whenever he wants in our out of combat.
ANYway... I think the main thing we can all agree on is that things are really half-assed when it comes to the H-content in this game...
As I said, I only needed to check something with old cheat table.
My potato pc is too weak for this unoptimized game so I get blurry textures but it wasn't like that from the beginning. In fact if I start a new game it's looking pretty good. Although as I unlock more and more facilities, more stuff get loaded into the memory and the textures become blurry due to not sufficient space for them. I could handle some blurry buildings, trash bins, streets and even zombies... but heroines? Hell no. So for 1.33 there's the old cheat table with the thing related to facility level where you can increase or decrease your facility level. Couldn't find it on the new cheat table so I figured it'll be faster to just downgrade the version and see if it works and textures get less blurry.
End result: In the new version Einomaru got wiped (unplanned; I made backup save tho), facilities got wiped (as planned), interestingly the second area of hometown (where her room and idol space is) were still present and idol mode still possible, but the characters were still blurry (failure).
Funnily enough, even though Einomaru got wiped, I still had these in the new version.
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Ah.... I see. I didn't think about that sort of situation... I can definitely see how the game got more bloated as they added things to it, and they definitely didn't work that much on optimization.
I have a gaming laptop myself, and while it's not new and wasn't the latest tech when I bought it even, it's still more than capable of handling this game... aside from how poorly optimized it is in the general sense. At the end of the day, no amount of resources will compensate for poor coding... and this game has quite a bit of poor coding.
That said, it's to be expected of an H-game like this. At the end of the day, the people working on it aren't very many, and even large teams that have over 100 people working on a project at a time sometimes struggle with optimization, especially on PC.
For the most part, I can't say I care THAT much as long as the H-scenes run properly... and they do... but we all know all the other problems there...
For me even the H scenes are blurry.
But for a 10 year old gaming laptop that hadn't seen much upgrade aside from RAM extension and an SSD I think it's not that terrible