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I would prefer that we not have any kind of discussion about continuation of Beserk. Not because Beserk is an inappropriate topic for SoC. The entire staff, including Me, Sommy, and Arioch consider Miura-Sensei a huge influence on our work on the game.

Instead, I feel it's inappropriate to even begin to discuss what will happen with Beserk so soon after the man died. It's not an appropriate topic for the immediate future.

I would instead encourage that any discussion of Beserk in this particular thread be about things like how Beserk's unique and incredible artistic direction inspired elements purposefully or unconcioussly in SoC. That's a more appropriate discussion for the venue.
Berserk probably influenced most modern dark fantasy, it's that damn simple. How people design monsters in dark fantasy across most modern mediums is probably far more tied to how Miura reinterpreted Bosch and Gothics with bold designs and a central element of body horror than with far better known artistic influences like Escher (who is also amazing, don't get me
wrong).

But what I loved the most about Berserk was the story and the message. Unlike Casca who still has not had a journey through her trauma (and that journey will be lessened because she needed magic to even begin it), Guts processed his accumulated trauma, stumbled and did monstrous things along the way but has come out stronger and a much better person. I honestly kept seeing people talk about how none of the big bads had fallen as if the story ever was going to be about Guts vs the Godhand; no, the story is about a man vs fate and Guts has already won that fight so many times.

I also love the word Berserk because everyone tends to spell it wrong and it's etymology is so fun.
 

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Not gonna lie, I legit cried and my heart hurts like there's an anvil on that bitch. Way to kick me in the dick, 2021...

Guess we won't know how Guts and Casca would go, or well, learn more about Moon-kiddo. And so many other things!

I have the feeling SOC probably wouldn't be here if Berserk weren't around, and I have the feeling I probably wouldn't be around here if Berserk weren't around either. Berserk brought me into the Anime world. It also gave me a big-kick out into the History realm.
There are probably one or two chapters already done. The publisher will probably give Kentaro's assistants (that were employed and trained by him, not part-timers) some chapters to wrap it up.Don't expect a complete closure though.
 

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No version of Rowan is dumb enough to think that burning down the entirety of Rastedel, a potential major industrial and population center, has any kind of positive tactical value.
 
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No version of Rowan is dumb enough to think that burning down the entirety of Rastedel, a potential major industrial and population center, has any kind of positive tactical value.
If my memory does not fail, he was dumb enough to go alone and without plan (for someone praised for being resourceful) into the twin's lair. What was he expecting, kicking demonic asses after he got one shot by Andras?
 

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No version of Rowan is dumb enough to think that burning down the entirety of Rastedel, a potential major industrial and population center, has any kind of positive tactical value.
If my memory does not fail, he was dumb enough to go alone and without plan (for someone praised for being resourceful) into the twin's lair. What was he expecting, kicking demonic asses after he got one shot by Andras?
I guess he was desperate to save his wife? And generally disillusioned with the idea that the capital would help any of the villages.
 
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I guess he was desperate to save his wife? And generally disillusioned with the idea that the capital would help any of the villages.
I dunno, he made a name for himself during the last war, he has at least some influence, he could write letters or something to at least warn other people of possible return of demons.

He had some hardship during the last war, and probably made hard decisions in order to get the job done (protecting a fort IRC). With that kind of man, I have a hard time connecting that war hero to the Rowan in prologue, who act like he didn't experience the previous war. He should thought a plan, seek help, anything, instead of going in like some shounen protagonist. He should already know life isn't some fairy tale where the good guys defeat the bad guys. Again, the war made him aware of his limits, of what he can do, he should know going there alone was just suicidal.
 

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We want to actually touch up the intro and make this clearer.

But, the answer above is basically correct. Rowan is too marginalized politically during peace time to actually get much help. Had he come to Rastedel for help, Werden would have burried the request.
 

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Rowan : "I need Help plox my wifu stolen by chad Demon!"
Warden : "Sorry Rowan you too marginalized!"

Ps. I pointed out this plot hole at the very beginning of the game development. Basically , if Rowan was master strategist it doesn't sum up that the best plan he come up with is to venture in to the demons pit alone + after all his adventures (quite successful) he had not a single friend to ask for a favor?
I dropped this issue because it's hentai game and we have bigger plot holes in most movies and AAA games.
Pss. Yet i do think mayyyy be our "master strategist" should have had enough common sense to try and warn someone about the impending demonic invasion Before his suicide mission.
 

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Rowan : "I need Help plox my wifu stolen by chad Demon!"
Warden : "Sorry Rowan you too marginalized!"

Ps. I pointed out this plot hole at the very beginning of the game development. Basically , if Rowan was master strategist it doesn't sum up that the best plan he come up with is to venture in to the demons pit alone + after all his adventures (quite successful) he had not a single friend to ask for a favor?
I dropped this issue because it's hentai game and we have bigger plot holes in most movies and AAA games.
Pss. Yet i do think mayyyy be our "master strategist" should have had enough common sense to try and warn someone about the impending demonic invasion Before his suicide mission.
Do you want to fuck demon bitches and noble ladies or not?
 

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Rowan : "I need Help plox my wifu stolen by chad Demon!"
Warden : "Sorry Rowan you too marginalized!"

Ps. I pointed out this plot hole at the very beginning of the game development. Basically , if Rowan was master strategist it doesn't sum up that the best plan he come up with is to venture in to the demons pit alone + after all his adventures (quite successful) he had not a single friend to ask for a favor?
I dropped this issue because it's hentai game and we have bigger plot holes in most movies and AAA games.
Pss. Yet i do think mayyyy be our "master strategist" should have had enough common sense to try and warn someone about the impending demonic invasion Before his suicide mission.
Eh, that makes a lot of sense. Unless something happened between the Six Heroes after the end of the war that we don't know about and that would be the cause why Rowan wouldn't ask for help from them either. The nobles already loathe the very notion of a peasant like him being a hero so it's a no brainer that no one in the high ranks would listen to him or anyone affiliated with him that could act as a messenger.
 

errte13

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Rowan : "I need Help plox my wifu stolen by chad Demon!"
Warden : "Sorry Rowan you too marginalized!"

Ps. I pointed out this plot hole at the very beginning of the game development. Basically , if Rowan was master strategist it doesn't sum up that the best plan he come up with is to venture in to the demons pit alone + after all his adventures (quite successful) he had not a single friend to ask for a favor?
I dropped this issue because it's hentai game and we have bigger plot holes in most movies and AAA games.
Pss. Yet i do think mayyyy be our "master strategist" should have had enough common sense to try and warn someone about the impending demonic invasion Before his suicide mission.
IRC, Rowan is not a "master strategist", he was more described to be willing to do dirty deeds to get the job done. Competent, but nothing "genius" or having special talent.



But, the answer above is basically correct. Rowan is too marginalized politically during peace time to actually get much help. Had he come to Rastedel for help, Werden would have burried the request.
Does he have no allies he made during war that are at least willing to hear him out and that have at least some influence to help? If so, before doing some suicidal solo like he did, he can at least spend some time to wrote letters to any people (either to send help or to warn his hometown razed to the ground by demons).
 
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