rivon

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I usually do like elf wenches. So when she was introduced i was surprised i didn't like her much.
She was kind bland character who throw herself on Rowan with no context, her backstory scream at you she is Jazera spy, whom she place near Rowan to keep an eye on him.

You basically know character need additional work if it took a full page for Winter just to describe all the issue he had to fix.

The only logical contradiction i find is that Winter keep pushing this "Rowan gathering his own power structure" with her.
With all due respect to Elf Wench what power she has except nice ass?
She is submissive but she will be submissive to anyone who apply enough force to her.
 
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I rather like Hel with her lithe knightly and youthful smol boob look. So tasty!
There are plenty of ladies packing serious boobage in the game already.

Her night-gown....or should I say "knight-gown" could use a bit of consideration though.
The darker color purple doesn't vibe all that well with her hair color or the color of her skirt for w/e reason.
If we wanted to sexy her up; we could go with panties/nude bottom instead of the boxer-skirt ; or maybe we could get reworked color scheme ^_^.

No condemnation of Winter over Liurial! Lets have more Liurial AND then multiple months of Hel content release :love:- whenever the man is done telling the narrative he wants to tell about the kinky cuteness that is Liurial ;)

Hel is my favorite waifu- but Liurial is in my top 3 so I'd hate to cut her off before we get all that sweetness.
 

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rivon , yeah about that wasn't it mentioned she choose him because he was the better option ?

Hel is my favorite waifu- but Liurial is in my top 3 so I'd hate to cut her off before we get all that sweetness.
Who are the rest ?

T51bwinterized will you guys polish the writing in the Rowan high corruption Juliet event ? The pacing to that didn't make sense nor did what happen later as we never got into his thoughts.
 
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The only logical contradiction i find is that Winter keep pushing this "Rowan gathering his own power structure" with her.
With all due respect to Elf Wench what power she has except nice ass?
She is submissive but she will be submissive to anyone who apply enough force to her.
I don't disagree that she screams of being a Jez spy- it would fit the general trajectory of Jezera's manipulations- and while Liu may have started out like that I rather expect it to backfire if that is the case.
There is one piece that confuses me as to if this narrative will be the case though. We already have two narratives in which Jezera tries to get someone to be her spy by turning them into a whore. Namely Alexia's NTR pathing and Shaya. Will Winter lean into that narrative and give it to us again in another iteration with Liurial to reinforce that narrative or does he think it is established enough already and will try to give us a new flavor of narrative with Liurial. Maybe a little of both? I'm definitely looking forward to seeing it in Jan for the Steam release at any rate.

Liurial helps quite a lot by taking clerical duties off of Rowan's plate- freeing him to complete other tasks- such as bullying his Elf :p But she also does have narrative of helping Rowan obscure sensitive information to help people- in addition to other loyal moves. They usually rely on her cleverness instead of her strength though.

I think her physical powerlessness is exactly what makes her interesting. The whole narrative sets her up to look weak, but bravery from a place of weakness in many ways is far more heroic than bravery from a place of strength.

I fully expect her to subvert every expectation about her weakness in her Arc finale. She will do something reckless to help Rowan and either bail him out of a tough situation or help him fight through a tough situation together.

It should also be noted that political / administrative strength is also strength and it is often more powerful than raw might in tons of vectors. At minimum Luirial bolsters Rowan's ability to exploit this type of strength- at maximum she has enough understanding of politics / administration to generate that sort of clout on her own. Viewing her as not adding power to Rowan's movement to rebel feels like an oversimplification of power dynamics.

Who are the rest ?
Not sure how much detail you want here:
1) Hel 2) Cla-min 3) Liu 4) Amerine 5) Patricia

Heartsong and Cla-min Jr could jump up a lot of places if they got more content. I really love Heartsong's narrative so far- and Cla-min Jr is unbelievably cute.
 
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Thomas Vercetti

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I would like to ask, can you help me how to turn on an event that is in the game via the console? if possible thank you very much,
the console is already functional and activated, I would just need a command
 

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I usually do like elf wenches. So when she was introduced i was surprised i didn't like her much.
She was kind bland character who throw herself on Rowan with no context, her backstory scream at you she is Jazera spy, whom she place near Rowan to keep an eye on him.

You basically know character need additional work if it took a full page for Winter just to describe all the issue he had to fix.

The only logical contradiction i find is that Winter keep pushing this "Rowan gathering his own power structure" with her.
With all due respect to Elf Wench what power she has except nice ass?
She is submissive but she will be submissive to anyone who apply enough force to her.
rivon , yeah about that wasn't it mentioned she choose him because he was the better option ?


Who are the rest ?

T51bwinterized will you guys polish the writing in the Rowan high corruption Juliet event ? The pacing to that didn't make sense nor did what happen later as we never got into his thoughts.
The new update is out on Patreon and has the first two major events of the new Liurial arc. When you get it (or some fuck leaks it), you'll see the changes first hand. But, there's a lot of reasons I've delibretly targeted the intro scene, and the new version is 3x longer and retains basically none of the text of the original.

Also, there's a lot of political power you can get from a good beurocrat. It empowers you to control the flow of important information and direct resources towards friends and away from foes. Useful in both a coup and in holding a solid power base. More useful then having someone who can shoot dragon ball z lasers much of the time.

Juliet event will get another proper eyeball when I do my final look and improvements to Rastedel (After Helayna).
 
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rivon

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That what i think about small tits.
BAttel Tits cant be small! They are weapons to distract your enemy!:sneaky:
From Shepard perspective:

Also Winter can learn how to write fast engaging sex dialogs from Shepard.
P.S. now you morally obliged to add "We will bang okay?" in the game :ROFLMAO:
 
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Semantics

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I would like to ask, can you help me how to turn on an event that is in the game via the console? if possible thank you very much,
the console is already functional and activated, I would just need a command
This would be done by typing "jump [scene name without brackets]", and to find the scene name you'd need to break open the innards of the game and scour through...a lot of .rpy files. If the scene you want has "label NotARealScene:" just before it then you'd type "jump NotARealScene" in the console.

That said, this is the worst way to do things in SoC.

1. It involves a lot of work.
2. Enabling the console means you can use the debug menu in Rowan's room. It can be tough to find a scene in this, and I think there are some sex scenes that aren't in it, but it's also a lot faster and easier. Technically you could use it to find the scene name and then use the jump command, but at that point you're using the debug menu for 90% of the work then doing extra work on top of that.
3. It could cause issues for your save (Debug menu might too, heck if I know, but at least seems less likely to. Not that it matters because: )
4. There's a scene replay mod linked in the first page that contains either every scene with art or nearly every scene with art, won't mess up your save, and is very easy to use.

Console can be used for a lot of things (Some of which also might break your save!), but it's the least worthwhile method for viewing specific scenes.
 
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How do you buy items from Cla-Min?
Go to Cla-Min, click shop, and either check the first tab for 1 of the 8 skill improving supplies, or the third tab for plot items, of which they are 2 at the moment (Orciad axe and Helayna's energy potion).
 

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Welp there it is. Please remember:

- Do not use your old saves. We have broken full save compatibility with this one. If you tried and started to get errors, don't send reports. Only from Fresh Saves.

- Areas we are looking for feedback on:
The New Liurial Rework
The Intro Rework
The Draith Finale
The Changed Helayna Escape
The New Cla-Min Event
The New UI Changes
The Skill/Mechanics Rework
The New Shop
 

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Is there any arc planned for Indarah? She is an interesting character, but her involvement in the plot outside Alexia's barmaid job is very small.
 
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