Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.06] [Vénus Noire]

[aykarin]

Sounds like it was in older version before 3.0 plus. ☠ That sounds a lot better than what it is now because theres several moments that contradicts shit between him knowing to and going back to not knowing.

It be fine if he didnt know bout the 1st but made it so he found out after the Helayna ordeal.

I remember that old version very well and even though it made more sense in the context of the old Andras x Alexia events, the new version is much better written and thought-out. The only problem right now is that many events from before the rewrite remain and because of this, the whole relationship between Alexia and Andras seems inconsistent. The devs will have to rewrite a couple of old events in order for this to make sense and not be contradictory.

 

[Gicoo]

Not at the moment. I usually don't like to speculate, but judging by the direction SoC goes, I would predict three different endings. Probably with some variations. Following the decisions you made through the game. So here goes my two cents:
1) You stay "pure", true to Alexia etc. You will become strong one day, step by step and suffering on the quiet. At the end of the game you'll revenge twins for everything they did to you and Rosaria. GOOD ENDING
2) You help twins to conquer the world. And live happily ever after as a demon's fucktoy. Watching your now cumdump wife doing her things and giving no shit about Rosaria and it's people. BAD ENDING
3) You become corrupted, but preserve you backbone and make lots of dark allies secretly. At the end of the game you'll overthrow the twins and become the dark sovereign yourself. FUNNY ENDING

The variations will throw a wench in it and overcomplicate the writing. You can have pure Rowan corrupt Alexia, reverse, both pure, both corrupt. Rowan can be a sub/dom to one or many woman almost regardless of his agency. Apparantly its planned that you can get rid of one of the twins by favoring the other ones etc. The different allies also overcomplicate it. What if Rowan submits to Clinoah and Tue-San, who gets him?

Thats the issue if the plot isn't written streamlined, but instead spread out in countless mini arcs that all have their own ending.

My prediction would be to sort the outcomes and the more Rowan leads towards one disposition, the more likely it branches out to an ending.

Disposition	Orc-Camp	Goblin-Town	Rastedel	Helayna
Pure, sabotaging twins	Rescue Delane	Tue-Row	Werner	Escape
Jezera	Tarish	Chelin	Patricia	Enslavement
Andras	Bartri	Zii-Zii	Jacques	Warrior
Chaotic, acclaiming power for himself	Ulcro	Tue-San	Patricia	Lover

 

[gintamago]

Che-Lin when

 

[hu lover]

I gave up after beating the second level of this game, couldn't really get into this.

 

[Raven_Light]

I remember that old version very well and even though it made more sense in the context of the old Andras x Alexia events, the new version is much better written and thought-out. The only problem right now is that many events from before the rewrite remain and because of this, the whole relationship between Alexia and Andras seems inconsistent. The devs will have to rewrite a couple of old events in order for this to make sense and not be contradictory.

Gotcha thanks for the information, I'll definitely be looking foward too the rewrites where it makes more sense.

 

[hentaifun121]

can we also have an option to opt out of gay scenes

 

[okamisamy]

can we also have an option to opt out of gay scenes

i think you can avoid all scenes if you want to or thats changed ?

 

[Rein]

Sex is always optional. But then what monster are you to avoid all of it.

 

[hentaifun121]

i think you can avoid all scenes if you want to or thats changed ?

idk i was only given a option to turn off ntr at the start of the game.. sometimes i dont read the dialogues and just skip them and choose the wrong answer then the mc gets the D

 

[palichan]

Sex is always optional. But then what monster are you to avoid all of it.

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[sin(α)]

idk i was only given a option to turn off ntr at the start of the game.. sometimes i dont read the dialogues and just skip them and choose the wrong answer then the mc gets the D

It's not possible to "turn off" all gay scenes (like in the NTR case). Menu choices is the only option to avoid them. You have to pay attention at least when you see Rowan together with Andras, Draith or Skordred (list is not exhaustive).

 

[mehGusta]

The variations will throw a wench in it and overcomplicate the writing. You can have pure Rowan corrupt Alexia, reverse, both pure, both corrupt. Rowan can be a sub/dom to one or many woman almost regardless of his agency. Apparantly its planned that you can get rid of one of the twins by favoring the other ones etc. The different allies also overcomplicate it. What if Rowan submits to Clinoah and Tue-San, who gets him?

Thats the issue if the plot isn't written streamlined, but instead spread out in countless mini arcs that all have their own ending.

My prediction would be to sort the outcomes and the more Rowan leads towards one disposition, the more likely it branches out to an ending.

Disposition	Orc-Camp	Goblin-Town	Rastedel	Helayna
Pure, sabotaging twins	Rescue Delane	Chelin	Werner	Escape
Jezera	Tarish	Tue-San	Patricia	Enslavement
Andras	Bartri	Zii-Zii	Jacques	Warrior
MGTOW	Ulcro	Tue-Row	None?	Lover

really? you think jezera and tue-san would work for a route? jezera sees nobody an equal and would see tue-san as a stubborn obstacle. while tue-san hates jezera and everything she means for her people and especially tue-row. tue-san is definitely an option to work against the twins. i'd say that tue-san and chelin swap places in your list.

idk i was only given a option to turn off ntr at the start of the game.. sometimes i dont read the dialogues and just skip them and choose the wrong answer then the mc gets the D

is that the reason why people have problems with optionable ntr when not having a variable to turn it off? they complain that they skip through the dialouge and then wonder why certain choices lead to ntr?
i'm sorry pal, but that's solely on you, that you get gay content.

on a more serious note: i think the game needs a ntr variable, because ntr can also happen off-screen. this way the devs can guarantee that no ntr will happen off-screen and at the same time disable any ntr content that you might encounter. i don't think the variable is there to shield people, who skip through the game, from any ntr content.
if somehow the game would suggest that gay stuff happens off-screen, without your direct control (like choosing one option and then one hour later it leads to gay content), then a variable for gay content would be a viable concern.

 

[Jynx_lucky_j]

on a more serious note: i think the game needs a ntr variable, because ntr can also happen off-screen. this way the devs can guarantee that no ntr will happen off-screen and at the same time disable any ntr content that you might encounter. i don't think the variable is there to shield people, who skip through the game, from any ntr content.
if somehow the game would suggest that gay stuff happens off-screen, without your direct control (like choosing one option and then one hour later it leads to gay content), then a variable for gay content would be a viable concern.

I would be curious to hear in which instances you feel that NTR is happening off screen. I've heard this sentiment a few times before but try as I might I can't think of a point where I believed there would be off screen NTR happening that isn't already fairly far down one of the explicitly onscreen NTR paths. From what I can tell, by the time you reach a point to say that Alexa is definitely boning this person off screen you would have had to indicate that you were okay with NTR happening in your play through at least a couple of times already.

 

[Rein]

idk i was only given a option to turn off ntr at the start of the game.. sometimes i dont read the dialogues and just skip them and choose the wrong answer then the mc gets the D

Also for crying out loud, you literally can turn NTR off, and there is never a hint any NTR happens offscreen, because it does not.

I know there's an instance of it being talked about in the Rude Workers event, and in case this wasn't made abundantly clear, these two are shitheads who make up for shit and giggles because that's what happens in real life. It's the same with the Maid Gossip event - it doesn't matter if Rowan is fucking Cla-Min or Shaya, the maids still assume he does, because the're vindictive basic bitches.

 

[Jynx_lucky_j]

there is never a hint any NTR happens offscreen, because it does not.

There are cases in which I can understand if people are assuming that Alexia is hooking up off screen.

For example it is hard to believe that she and Greyhide are not occasionally fucking off screen if Rowan gives them permission to do just that at the end of that arc.
Or far down either of the twin's NTR paths once they have her totally wrapped around their fingers they might call her for a visit now an again but it isn't anything remarkible enough to put on screen.
Or I wouldn't be surprised if she continues going down to the breeding pits for the occasional "swim" after the end of the fishboy's path.

These are the cases in which I personally was assuming it was happening. But the key is that in each of these cases you have to explicitly allow it to reach that point.

 

[hentaifun121]

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Also for crying out loud, you literally can turn NTR off, and there is never a hint any NTR happens offscreen, because it does not.

I know there's an instance of it being talked about in the Rude Workers event, and in case this wasn't made abundantly clear, these two are shitheads who make up for shit and giggles because that's what happens in real life. It's the same with the Maid Gossip event - it doesn't matter if Rowan is fucking Cla-Min or Shaya, the maids still assume he does, because the're vindictive basic bitches.

What are you talking about im not complaining about ntr i personally have ntr on, im talking about how the dev should include an option to opt out from gay scenes like how they made an option for ntr.

 

[Gicoo]

Hello I just started the game and iam wondering is pure run possible without submitting to the twins sexually in long term

Yes, though Rowan and Alexia are constantly harrassed by everything and denying everyone can have consequences and minor drawbacks.

 

[hentaifun121]

really? you think jezera and tue-san would work for a route? jezera sees nobody an equal and would see tue-san as a stubborn obstacle. while tue-san hates jezera and everything she means for her people and especially tue-row. tue-san is definitely an option to work against the twins. i'd say that tue-san and chelin swap places in your list.

is that the reason why people have problems with optionable ntr when not having a variable to turn it off? they complain that they skip through the dialouge and then wonder why certain choices lead to ntr?
i'm sorry pal, but that's solely on you, that you get gay content.

on a more serious note: i think the game needs a ntr variable, because ntr can also happen off-screen. this way the devs can guarantee that no ntr will happen off-screen and at the same time disable any ntr content that you might encounter. i don't think the variable is there to shield people, who skip through the game, from any ntr content.
if somehow the game would suggest that gay stuff happens off-screen, without your direct control (like choosing one option and then one hour later it leads to gay content), then a variable for gay content would be a viable concern.

I mean sure its my fault for not reading the whole dialogue which consists of idk like 50 sentences.. i was just asking if they could just add an option just like they did for ntr

 

[Jynx_lucky_j]

Hello I just started the game and iam wondering is pure run possible without submitting to the twins sexually in long term

Yes but if you a talking about a totally loyal run, though there are a decent number of Rowan/Alexia sex scenes, there might not be enough to fully satisfy you. If, on the other hand, you just mean cutting out the twins (and maybe other entities that seem particularly dangerous) for one or both partners then there is plenty to go around.

While some characters may threaten consequences for refusal, said consequences are minor to nonexistent. Regardless of what a character may say, turning them down is always an option. Turns out demons are actually pretty big on consent, who would have guessed?

 

[perles75]

idk i was only given a option to turn off ntr at the start of the game.. sometimes i dont read the dialogues and just skip them and choose the wrong answer then the mc gets the D

well well well, look who's getting the consequences of his own actions... (and blames them on the game)