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I am sorry but WTF is this gaslighting BS? Kethar is in no way an orc. He literally looks more like the runaway slave blacksmith elf that Rowan encounters in a mine than an orc. Where is his big pointy ears? Where is his tusks? Where is his big round head?

Heck even Rowan is probably closer to the appearance of an orc is than Kethar.

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Here are what the normal orcs look like.

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Even the pretty slender female orcs don't look that elf / human like.

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Kethar looks lovely though? Where did you come across him?
 

aesir150

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Kethar looks lovely though? Where did you come across him?
He is from a random mountain event. So while exploring just walk over the mountains and you get an event called the lost tribe or something like that.

I agree he is a good looking dude in the picture, but he just totally not an orc in anyway based on that picture. Maybe his eyes might of given away that he is an orc, but we only have 1 picture of him and his eyes is closed.

I think they should reuse that picture for a different event and actually commision a different CG for Kethar that looks more like an orc.
 
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DemiMaximoff

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Guys I modified the game code so that the dice always rolls the required number, and the game immediately became so much more fun. I saw 3 playthroughs worth of events in a single playthrough. No more infinite savescumming for paths you want no matter what. Would definitely recommend
 

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Guys I modified the game code so that the dice always rolls the required number, and the game immediately became so much more fun. I saw 3 playthroughs worth of events in a single playthrough. No more infinite savescumming for paths you want no matter what. Would definitely recommend
The hell are you even talking about? Dice rolls? There're couple of those in the code usually having some minor effect on some secondary stats. Skill rolls? They have more impact, but really nothing crucial either.

The "paths" in the game are - at least for me - like lesbian Alexia, gay Rowan, corrupted Alexia/Rowan, pure Alexia/Rowan etc. You still need different playthroughs to see all of them. Despite of the results of your dice/skill rolls.

You don't have to change the game code to "success" when skill rolling btw, just "pump up" your skills in console like Avatar().skills[skill-you-want-to-pump].level = 999 for example. It's different for dice rolls, as there's no "more is always better" rule there. But their impact on the game is really minor in most of the cases and I wouldn't bother to change them anyway.
 

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The hell are you even talking about? Dice rolls? There're couple of those in the code usually having some minor effect on some secondary stats. Skill rolls? They have more impact, but really nothing crucial either.

The "paths" in the game are - at least for me - like lesbian Alexia, gay Rowan, corrupted Alexia/Rowan, pure Alexia/Rowan etc. You still need different playthroughs to see all of them. Despite of the results of your dice/skill rolls.

You don't have to change the game code to "success" when skill rolling btw, just "pump up" your skills in console like Avatar().skills[skill-you-want-to-pump].level = 999 for example. It's different for dice rolls, as there's no "more is always better" rule there. But their impact on the game is really minor in most of the cases and I wouldn't bother to change them anyway.
That's greatly underselling how much dice rolls matter.
Want audience with Ulcro and Batri? Dice Rolls.
Want to successfully look for the captive girl? Dice rolls.
Want to use the number of steps you have to the fullest without random hazards? Dice rolls
Want to see the scene with the lady in the cave? Dice rolls
Want the battle with the BDSM elf's owner to go the best it can for Rowan? Dice rolls
And that's just the ones I can think off the top of my head.
 

aykarin

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Want audience with Ulcro and Batri? Dice Rolls.
You can try visiting them every week, each time repeating the dice roll. The same with sneaking to meet with the noblewoman. The game gives you lots of time to visit the Orciad camp many times.
Want to see the scene with the lady in the cave? Dice rolls
This is simply not true. The dice roll in that scene happens after the sex scene. The only thing you get if the dice roll goes well is +1 point to one of the castle management stats. Everything else happens regardless of the dice roll outcome.

These are just some examples. The game is designed in such a way that those outcomes only have slight meaning and failing will not bar you from seeing any significant parts of content or any sex scene.
 

sin(α)

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Want audience with Ulcro and Batri? Dice Rolls.
Want to successfully look for the captive girl? Dice rolls.
Want to use the number of steps you have to the fullest without random hazards? Dice rolls
Want to see the scene with the lady in the cave? Dice rolls
Want the battle with the BDSM elf's owner to go the best it can for Rowan? Dice rolls
None of your examples have anything to do with dice rolls (as defined in utils.rpy). Guess you actually mean skill rolls (as defined in avatar.rpy with Avatar() class). These are different mechanics.

(As your first examples are about Orciad: the only cases when dice rolls have any effect during Orciad are concerning some minor details - like if you meet monks, caravan or bandits or how much gold you get / Batri's power rises after raids etc - during and after raids.)

About skill rolls... Yes, successful skill rolls make your life easier. But if you already decided to cheat, why to do it in a hard way / mess with the game code? (It's always difficult to predict how this affects the gameplay and believe me - I'm doing this a lot. I would never encourage anyone to mess with the game code unless he really knows what he does.) If you can simply use console to pump up your skills.
 
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DemiMaximoff

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None of your examples have anything to do with dice rolls (as defined in utils.rpy). Guess you actually mean skill rolls (as defined in avatar.rpy with Avatar() class). These are different mechanics.

(As your first examples are about Orciad: the only cases when dice rolls have any effect during Orciad are concerning some minor details - like if you meet monks, caravan or bandits or how much gold you get / Batri's power rises after raids etc - during and after raids.)

About skill rolls... Yes, successful skill rolls make your life easier. But if you already decided to cheat, why to do it in a hard way / mess with the game code? (It's always difficult to predict how this affects the gameplay and believe me - I'm doing this a lot. I would never encourage anyone to mess with the game code unless he really knows what he does.) If you can simply use console to pump up your skills.
The problem with using console to raise stat is that you have to do it for every stat, and for every playthrough. Also, what's minor is subjective. If there's a chance that I can cover my ears before Cliohna casts some spell in a monastery, I want it to happen.
 
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Just curious... what happens when you fail every skill check and take damage until that red bar fills completely?

I save scum like crazy to pass every check, but does the game just end?
 

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Just curious... what happens when you fail every skill check and take damage until that red bar fills completely?

I save scum like crazy to pass every check, but does the game just end?
Rowan gets a stat debuff for a few weeks (though you can buy a cure in the shop).
 
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Dur_Mel

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I asked this same question about a year ago and it wasn't possible. I am asking again: Can I betray these fucking demons? I hate the bastards. I want them dead or made a non-issue. I know you play the villain, that's fine. I'm cool with that. But I want to tear down the demons.
 

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I asked this same question about a year ago and it wasn't possible. I am asking again: Can I betray these fucking demons? I hate the bastards. I want them dead or made a non-issue. I know you play the villain, that's fine. I'm cool with that. But I want to tear down the demons.
At that time you were responded:
Almost certainly eventually, but not yet. The story is going to have 3 acts and we are currently near the end of Act 1.
Act I is finished, but the dev team right now is focusing in polish the game's art, some mechanics, bug fixes and put into the end some side quest that will have an impact in the future Acts, right now, Rowan is still a lil man under the orders of Da Twins, independently of how "good" or evil have you played...
 
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sin(α)

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The problem with using console to raise stat is that you have to do it for every stat,
There're like 8 skills in the game. That's assuming you want to change them all. Not really that hard, is it?

There're two fundamental benefits of using console to mess with the game:
1) It's flexible as you can choose, which variables are affected. You can do it any time you want, even during the gameplay. And you can revert those changes any time.
2) It's pretty safe, as you only change the value of the variable. Not variables themselves, not game mechanics.
and for every playthrough.
No. You just make a save before and after you mess with skills. Then you can do as many playthroughs as you want, cheating or not (whatever you mean by "playthrough").
Also, what's minor is subjective.
Yes and no. Dice rolls (just for a case: I'm not talking about skill rolls) in the game do not decide if anything happens in most cases or even if you benefit/suffer from that. They decide how exactly you benefit/suffer from that. That's what I would call a minor.
If there's a chance that I can cover my ears before Cliohna casts some spell in a monastery, I want it to happen.
There's no monastery in the game. If you mean her lightning burst in the abbey (Abbey First event), then your skill roll affects nothing but some dialogue.
I asked this same question about a year ago and it wasn't possible. I am asking again: Can I betray these fucking demons? I hate the bastards. I want them dead or made a non-issue. I know you play the villain, that's fine. I'm cool with that. But I want to tear down the demons.
Not at the moment. I usually don't like to speculate, but judging by the direction SoC goes, I would predict three different endings. Probably with some variations. Following the decisions you made through the game. So here goes my two cents:
1) You stay "pure", true to Alexia etc. You will become strong one day, step by step and suffering on the quiet. At the end of the game you'll revenge twins for everything they did to you and Rosaria. GOOD ENDING
2) You help twins to conquer the world. And live happily ever after as a demon's fucktoy. Watching your now cumdump wife doing her things and giving no shit about Rosaria and it's people. BAD ENDING
3) You become corrupted, but preserve you backbone and make lots of dark allies secretly. At the end of the game you'll overthrow the twins and become the dark sovereign yourself. FUNNY ENDING
 

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I think there is a lot of Ntr potential with Rowan starting to suspect something that not being used here by our dear writers.
After all Ntr is all about our hero interactions with his not so faithful wifu.
It be nice if he found by Jeerza bringing him to peeking in Andras room putting it too his wife (maybe doggystyling her blindfolded comparing Rowans size, Debasing it, too Andras size, Praising it.) as Jeerza stands behind close and tight while giving him a handjob teasing him bout it.

Then later hes giving the opportunity to confront her bout it to let her know if hes fine with it or not,(which can lead too threesomes or having Rowan go in to watch and jerk off in front of them, by Alexia's choosing) the or ignores and becomes regular spy event with Jeerza.

For example.
 
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It be nice if he found by Jeerza bringing him to peeking in Andras room putting it too his wife (maybe doggystyling her blindfolded comparing Rowans size, Debasing it, too Andras size, Praising it.) as Jeerza stands behind close and tight while giving him a handjob teasing him bout it.

Then later hes giving the opportunity to confront her bout it to let her know if hes fine with it or not,(which can lead too threesomes or having Rowan go in to watch and jerk off in front of them, by Alexia's choosing) the or ignores and becomes regular spy event with Jeerza.

For example.
It used to be like that in the beginning. After getting his own room in the castle Rowan sneaks into Alexia's room and she realized that the Demons have been lying to her, Rowan grudgingly tells her that she could return Andreas' advances to keep the demons happy with them and to kinda sorta spy on them.

I used to like it that way instead of how it is now where Rowan seems like an oblivious NTR protagonist. Sex is a very low priority thing when the fate of the world is quite literally on your shoulder. That event where Andreas asks Rowan to blow him and he can basically tell him to go fuck his wife instead is also from that time.
 

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It used to be like that in the beginning. After getting his own room in the castle Rowan sneaks into Alexia's room and she realized that the Demons have been lying to her, Rowan grudgingly tells her that she could return Andreas' advances to keep the demons happy with them and to kinda sorta spy on them.

I used to like it that way instead of how it is now where Rowan seems like an oblivious NTR protagonist. Sex is a very low priority thing when the fate of the world is quite literally on your shoulder. That event where Andreas asks Rowan to blow him and he can basically tell him to go fuck his wife instead is also from that time.
Sounds like it was in older version before 3.0 plus. ☠ That sounds a lot better than what it is now because theres several moments that contradicts shit between him knowing to and going back to not knowing.

It be fine if he didnt know bout the 1st but made it so he found out after the Helayna ordeal.
 

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Sounds like it was in older version before 3.0 plus. ☠ That sounds a lot better than what it is now because theres several moments that contradicts shit between him knowing to and going back to not knowing.

It be fine if he didnt know bout the 1st but made it so he found out after the Helayna ordeal.
I remember that old version very well and even though it made more sense in the context of the old Andras x Alexia events, the new version is much better written and thought-out. The only problem right now is that many events from before the rewrite remain and because of this, the whole relationship between Alexia and Andras seems inconsistent. The devs will have to rewrite a couple of old events in order for this to make sense and not be contradictory.
 
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