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Stes

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While X'Zaratl and Greyhide are indeed great characters that I would like to see interacting with Rowan and Alexia more frequently (especially in threesome scenarios), I can't help but notice that our good old Andras x Alexia pairing doesn't get the love in deserves lately. The bathing scene is good, but not exactly gamechanging. I'm not just talking about "gimme moar NTR" here, I'm talking about diving deeper into the debths of Andras's character.

I understand that the devs have their hands full with Rastedel, Blackholt goblins, the Emissaries, etc. But its still sad that Andras doesn't have any significant mid-corruption events with Alexia that could rival latest Jezera x Alexia event(s).

Thankfully, I recall T51 saying that at least one such Andras event is coming along, which is wonderful.
 

TheSexinati

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Hell, there could be something to be said about improving Andras from the Male side of things too. Sure, we get blowjob scenes and sex scenes with Rowan and Andras... but there is very little content outside of this. There doesn't even need to be a sex scene or anything (Though obviously I won't say no to this), really I think there ought to be more moments where one can Impress Andras through our actions that leads to something with 'weight'... and fleshes out Rowan and Andras as 'characters'... Or something, I don't know, I'm not the honcho guy with game-making experience or written 500K word documents. As it stands now It feels somewhat pointless gaining Andras's affection and I am not even sure if it leads anywhere yet.

Because right now, I feel that Andras is somewhat one-dimensional at the moment, from my point of view.

Of course, I reckon that the Seeds of Chaos team already knows this and has something planned.
 

T51bwinterized

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While X'Zaratl and Greyhide are indeed great characters that I would like to see interacting with Rowan and Alexia more frequently (especially in threesome scenarios), I can't help but notice that our good old Andras x Alexia pairing doesn't get the love in deserves lately. The bathing scene is good, but not exactly gamechanging. I'm not just talking about "gimme moar NTR" here, I'm talking about diving deeper into the debths of Andras's character.

I understand that the devs have their hands full with Rastedel, Blackholt goblins, the Emissaries, etc. But its still sad that Andras doesn't have any significant mid-corruption events with Alexia that could rival latest Jezera x Alexia event(s).

Thankfully, I recall T51 saying that at least one such Andras event is coming along, which is wonderful.
Slowly. Part of this is my fault in a sense. I do a lot of the writing, and Andras x Alexia isn't my personal cup of tea. It's more Rein's thing, and Rein has been busy as shit.
 

JohnJacobs

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Any walkthroughs for this game? I don't mean a scene guide like in the OP, I mean a guide on how to optimize my playthrough like The Last Sovereign has. What I should research first, what I should build first, that sort of thing?
 

ozzo

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Any walkthroughs for this game? I don't mean a scene guide like in the OP, I mean a guide on how to optimize my playthrough like The Last Sovereign has. What I should research first, what I should build first, that sort of thing?
I dont feel like it matters much, the only thing i always make sure to do first is build a forge since a few of the greyhide scenes are locked behind a max corruption (if you play to dirty you cant access it later) other than that i would say tavern for income and the reserch that lets you move further. You can reload almost every roll check to force a possitive outcome if that is your style of minmaxing
 
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Stes

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Slowly. Part of this is my fault in a sense. I do a lot of the writing, and Andras x Alexia isn't my personal cup of tea. It's more Rein's thing, and Rein has been busy as shit.
That's understandable. The grand finale of Rosarian chapter is approaching, and even when we're done with Rastedel I assume that there would be a lot of things to wrap up, so when you say that you, Rein and the rest of the team is busy as shit, I believe you.

And tbh Andras x Alexia quality bonding is lower on my priority list than I make it seem. The superb Jezera x Alexia is the main reason I've noticed that Andras got the short end of the stick.

On the other hand, as Sexinati pointed out, Andras may not have a lot of meaningful events with Alexia and Rowan or just general moments where he's not acting like one-dimentional domineering demon warrior guy because he hasn't had his time to shine yet. And I believe that you guys indeed have a lot of quality Andras in store for us. All we have to do is wait.
 

JohnJacobs

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I dont feel like it matters much, the only thing i always make sure to do first is build a forge since a few of the greyhide scenes are locked behind a max corruption (if you play to dirty you cant access it later) other than that i would say tavern for income and the reserch that lets you move further. You can reload almost every roll check to force a possitive outcome if that is your style of minmaxing
Thanks.

By the way, I think there might be a bug in the latest version: I'm not getting any descriptions for my items or hers when I trade with the goblin merchant lady and I can't see how much gold I personally have (not the gold in the keep, my personal gold). I also can't see descriptions for items in my room. I only know whether something is good to equip or not after I actually equip it and see the stats change. Also, I can't build the things I want even though I have the gold for them. I assume that's because I need to research them before I'm allowed to build? But I'm not quite sure.
 

ozzo

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Thanks.

By the way, I think there might be a bug in the latest version: I'm not getting any descriptions for my items or hers when I trade with the goblin merchant lady and I can't see how much gold I personally have (not the gold in the keep, my personal gold). I also can't see descriptions for items in my room. I only know whether something is good to equip or not after I actually equip it and see the stats change. Also, I can't build the things I want even though I have the gold for them. I assume that's because I need to research them before I'm allowed to build? But I'm not quite sure.
The items have no impact that i can find other then make a few combat rolls higher i think(and you can save scum to make all of them i think)
Personally i have not bothered bying anything the last 6 updates i think
Yes a few buildings are locked behind research
 

JohnJacobs

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The items have no impact that i can find other then make a few combat rolls higher i think(and you can save scum to make all of them i think)
Personally i have not bothered bying anything the last 6 updates i think
Yes a few buildings are locked behind research
Thanks for the info but this is for sure a bug. I played the game early on in development and there used to be item names and stuff when you hovered over them. At the very least you could check them somehow, and the gold you had on you.
 

JohnJacobs

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Items are not long for this world
That's unfortunate, I thought they were a welcome bit of variety in that it allowed you to customize your character in a personal way instead of the more broad army-building that you do otherwise by dictating research and construction. Is the goblin lady just going to be a gold-intake modifier from now on then? I recall one of the research projects supposedly expands her inventory. All the same though, you guys are making a quality game here. I'm a Rowan x Female guy but I appreciate the desire to make sure it has something in it for everybody.
 

Rein

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I understand that the devs have their hands full with Rastedel, Blackholt goblins, the Emissaries, etc. But its still sad that Andras doesn't have any significant mid-corruption events with Alexia that could rival latest Jezera x Alexia event(s).
Andras is schedule to have a mid-corruption event that mirror's Alexia X Andras, but it got scheduled for later as I want to start working on Rastedel.

That's unfortunate, I thought they were a welcome bit of variety in that it allowed you to customize your character in a personal way instead of the more broad army-building that you do otherwise by dictating research and construction.
Can't keep adding stuff. The game is pretty bloated with mechanics as it is, and when it came to the question of "Will items really contribute in a meaningful way to the gameplay, or would they be another underutilized mechanic people barely even notice is there?", I decided it's best to be done with them
 

JohnJacobs

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Andras is schedule to have a mid-corruption event that mirror's Alexia X Andras, but it got scheduled for later as I want to start working on Rastedel.


Can't keep adding stuff. The game is pretty bloated with mechanics as it is, and when it came to the question of "Will items really contribute in a meaningful way to the gameplay, or would they be another underutilized mechanic people barely even notice is there?", I decided it's best to be done with them
I'm curious in that case, how will rewards from events be handled like the pieces of equipment you sometimes find? Or stuff like Cla-Min's sword she bribes you with in exchange for you knocking her up? Permanent stat buffs?
 

Rein

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All the equipment rewards are being changed to flat gold rewards. I have no idea what to do with the Sword at the moment.
 

AidsDelivered

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i would say that its generally the best idea to cross out the items, since the game isn't nearly done and we already have a HUGE amount of content and i think it could be a hassle to code them in.
Judst concentrate on the writing and try to work towards the end of the rastadel part. love you guys
 

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Hello everyone,

So last month was pretty decent, we had a nice bump and we got the release out on time as usual. This month has also started well, so hopefully that will continue.
The important thing I have to talk about today is the survey. It has been a year since the last one, even though it doesn't feel like it. We have some new questions on the 2019 edition, suggested by other members of the team. Like last year, I will give it a couple of weeks and then make a post comparing the public and backer results, but for now, you can fill out the survey here:
[DO NOT FILL THIS OUT IF YOU ARE A BACKER - You have a separate survey in the next post down.]

In other news, work on the new release is well underway. I'm just waiting for the rest of the sketches from MDN and then I'll be sharing them with the backers as usual. Sommy is working on a narrative CG for the Rastedel arc, which you can see above, and it looks stunning as usual. Winter is once again focusing on Rastedel content, to move the narrative on, while Rein is trying to get his mechanics overhaul finished so we can start coding it all soon. We'll have some fae content from Phoenix, and some random event stuff for Valaska to help pad the release out though.
That is all for today. This month's release will be on the 31st, and we are very close to being done with the final public demo of Jessika's Curse, so I will be sharing that with everyone soon as well.
 
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