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T51bwinterized

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It's a thoroughly broken system. Once upon a time, it worked sort of okay. However, since those much earlier builds, the inventory/store been reworked, half-assed, and messed with so much it's gone sideways and bonkers. It's also obvious it's a low priority for the development team. I know this sounds really negative but *shrugs* it is what it is; I don't fault them for putting this on the back burner while they work on other, more important stuff. It's easy to avoid it completely in-game anyway. Plus, you can get gear and other rewards through events at times so there is that. Though, I do want that all the stores that players can access to be completely vaulted away for the time being to spare players the frustrations with it until it gets the attention it really needs.
It's actually not on the back burner. It's just slated for demolition.
 
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It's actually not on the back burner. It's just slated for demolition.
Ah, okay then. There's our official answer from the man himself. I'm on board with this move as it would streamline things. It was such a mess, but I'm also aware there will be players out there that would prefer to have more stuff; however, at this point culling it is the better move. I'm hoping there might be other ways to mitigate the loss in bonuses (as minor as they were) on the RPG side of things if and when players start to expand and explore into other in-game regions.

What about the Bloodmeen management system? It's due for some TLC or an overhaul I think as well. As it is, it's not very well defined and I just kinda of wing things along early for income and research points. For example, I don't know the actual effects of Tavern but I do know it increases income; thus, I'll build it in every game. Or worse, build things just for plotline advancement. (Argh, hopefully that's clear enough. Someone's knocking on the door while I was in the middle of this...) *Rushes out* Okay laters! Looking forward to your reply!
 

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I'm all for the shop being removed. Can always have gear and such be obtained through events if you really want the RPG item/loot stuff. Make the shop something more engaging. Maybe make it into a mission hub of it's own. Giving players short optional missions for some extra gold.
 

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For the moment our main goal is just to streamline the mechanical elements to make them easier to manage in a satisfying way. We can build out if need be and if our resources expand to the point where we can more easily dedicate expenditures to the design side.
 

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Will you guys add any more futanari stuff? Because it's so rare to find a game with good futa content and I think it could pair really well with the corruption angle
 

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Why is there no options to have interact or sex with Alexia or Helayna at will? For Alexia there is no options to talk to her if you chose not share a room with her, and even when you do share a room with her there is no option to sex her other than through the random events... and during my play through so far she only chose to have sex with Rowan like once so far in the castle despite being 24 weeks into the game, I haven't let her cheat on Rowan or get raped yet by the weird futa succubus. And its kind of odd that you can't just sex Helayna after you claim her considering the fact that she under a spell that makes her horny all the time and is just in your room naked.

Also what is the point of having Jezera in the hall way if you can't even really interact with her at all. She has the standard 3 repetitive messages when you "talk" to her, and when you press visit there is no options at all other than "back"?

Also I noticed some of the end / start of the week events seem to be delayed or not properly activating at the right time. For instance Helayna didn't show up to the castle until like 5-6 weeks after I captured the Keep. The scene telling me to go to Rastedel with Doran fired off 4 weeks after I already went to Rastedel and did all the events there, such as going into court, the ball, and meeting with the Mysterious Masked Lady.

Also I think the Bonus Gallery CG tab could use a back button, or a page menu, because right now there is only the "Next" button and its hard to review which scenes you already unlocked cause cause there a like 20 pages of CGs that you have to keep pressing the next button to even find the newest one you just unlocked.


Other than these things. I thing I think the game is amazing so far. Very well written dialogue and story. Characters are very believable and consistent which is great. Though difference in art styles between the sex CGs and the sprites is a little jarring, cause some of the characters in the sex CGs don't even look like what their dialogue sprites are. For instance Delane looks like a creepy old lady in the sprites, while in the sex CGs she looks pretty decent. Jezera looks so cute in her dialogue sprites with freckles and all, but then in the sex CGs she looks totally different person. Also kind of sad to see the shop / equip system is planned to be slated all together. Though then again I played 24 weeks into the game and haven't bought a single item yet, and didn't even realize that I could level up Rowan till week 23.

Also is it even possible to forge anything with Greyhide? Cause even though I have like 3-4 mines, and 100% equipped all the orcs... he always says he doesn't have any metal and I need to bring him some?
 
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(Argh, hopefully that's clear enough. Someone's knocking on the door while I was in the middle of this...) *Rushes out* Okay laters! Looking forward to your reply!
Pffff. I was once caught jacking it off to Orcs doing Elf-woman by my mother. You'll be fine! (y)

And my brother once saw me jacking off to Minotaurs screwing women... and left the room quickly... But that's okay.

If he ever raises a negative comment, I'll delete his Asian fetish porn. ;)

Edit: I'm just happy they didn't see me jacking it to the gay shit in my porn folder.
 
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Also it would be great if we could willingly offer to "service" Jezera or Andros consider the fact that we have the option to have Rowan consistently cheat / give in to his base desires at almost every turn... so doesn't really make sense why he isn't allowed to pleasure his masters, especially Jezera considering the fact that she seems like nympho who enjoys the attention.
 
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Also it would be great if we could willingly offer to "service" Jezera or Andros consider the fact that we have the option to have Rowan consistently cheat / give in to his base desires at almost every turn... so doesn't really make sense why he isn't allowed to pleasure his masters, especially Jezera considering the fact that she seems like nympho who enjoys the attention.
Capture more villages. That should open a scene for one of them.
 

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@T51bwinterized am i the only one to find it pretty wierd, that even though the major part of the army in this game consists of orcs, which we as readers and players are taught to be lustful creatures towards women of every species and yet have to get a (sexual) orc scene with alexia ?

i mean all jokes aside it does make no sense to have alexia walk freely inside the bloodmen castle and have no male party advance towards her besides jak in the tavern, rowan occasionally and andras.
(I counted Greyhide out because although he has sex with alexia if the player wants that to happen, alexia more so advances towards him and not the other way around, though i would love to see a Greyhide that is a BIT more aggressive, maybe after some drinks? who knows?)
 

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@TheSexinati Front door; had an inspector come by.
@AidsDelivered I can see your point. Alexia is likely considered untouchable and anyone at Bloodmeen that goes after her would risk their very lives since she's the Big Boss's woman (outside the Twins, of course). Orcs might be lustful, but that doesn't also make them suicidal. However, I can see a scenario where a more corrupted Rowan (and / or Alexia) would offer her as part of a "reward" for a particularly difficult task done well.
 

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You've complained about it before. Orcs are not rape machines. They understand a basic concept like "Don't rape the bosses woman". That doesn't mean she never gets any advances or cat calls. But, she is effectively perfectly safe because people know not to harm her.

No we're not adding an Alexia/Orc scene unless we have a good idea for one that fits into one of her storylines.
 

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Ah, okay then. There's our official answer from the man himself. I'm on board with this move as it would streamline things. It was such a mess, but I'm also aware there will be players out there that would prefer to have more stuff; however, at this point culling it is the better move. I'm hoping there might be other ways to mitigate the loss in bonuses (as minor as they were) on the RPG side of things if and when players start to expand and explore into other in-game regions.

What about the Bloodmeen management system? It's due for some TLC or an overhaul I think as well. As it is, it's not very well defined and I just kinda of wing things along early for income and research points. For example, I don't know the actual effects of Tavern but I do know it increases income; thus, I'll build it in every game. Or worse, build things just for plotline advancement. (Argh, hopefully that's clear enough. Someone's knocking on the door while I was in the middle of this...) *Rushes out* Okay laters! Looking forward to your reply!
I think that's mostly a user interface/information problem. I'll consider it/share the idea elsewhere.

Why is there no options to have interact or sex with Alexia or Helayna at will? For Alexia there is no options to talk to her if you chose not share a room with her, and even when you do share a room with her there is no option to sex her other than through the random events... and during my play through so far she only chose to have sex with Rowan like once so far in the castle despite being 24 weeks into the game, I haven't let her cheat on Rowan or get raped yet by the weird futa succubus. And its kind of odd that you can't just sex Helayna after you claim her considering the fact that she under a spell that makes her horny all the time and is just in your room naked.

Also what is the point of having Jezera in the hall way if you can't even really interact with her at all. She has the standard 3 repetitive messages when you "talk" to her, and when you press visit there is no options at all other than "back"?

Also I noticed some of the end / start of the week events seem to be delayed or not properly activating at the right time. For instance Helayna didn't show up to the castle until like 5-6 weeks after I captured the Keep. The scene telling me to go to Rastedel with Doran fired off 4 weeks after I already went to Rastedel and did all the events there, such as going into court, the ball, and meeting with the Mysterious Masked Lady.

Also I think the Bonus Gallery CG tab could use a back button, or a page menu, because right now there is only the "Next" and its hard to review which scenes you already unlocked cause cause there a like 20 pages of CGs that you have to keep pressing the next button to even find the newest one you just unlocked.


Other than these things. I thing I think the game is amazing so far. Very well written dialogue and story. Characters are very believable and consistent which is great. Though difference in art styles between the sex CGs and the sprites is a little jarring, cause some of the characters in the sex CGs don't even look like what their dialogue sprites are. For instance Delane looks like a creepy old lady in the sprites, while in the sex CGs she looks pretty decent. Jezera looks so cute in her dialogue sprites with freckles and all, but then in the sex CGs she looks totally different person. Also kind of sad to see the shop / equip system is planned to be slated all together. Though then again I played 24 weeks into the game and haven't bought a single item yet, and didn't even realize that I could level up Rowan till week 23.

Also is it even possible to forge anything with Greyhide? Cause even though I have like 3-4 mines, and 100% equipped all the orcs... he always says he doesn't have any metal and I need to bring him some?
I'm happy you're enjoying the game. Glad to see someone else like it. I'll mention some of this to the team.
 

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@TheSexinati Front door; had an inspector come by.
@AidsDelivered I can see your point. Alexia is likely considered untouchable and anyone at Bloodmeen that goes after her would risk their very lives since she's the Big Boss's woman (outside the Twins, of course). Orcs might be lustful, but that doesn't also make them suicidal. However, I can see a scenario where a more corrupted Rowan (and / or Alexia) would offer her as part of a "reward" for a particularly difficult task done well.
Thank you @Back. i was thinking that aswell and maybe just a lustful and corrupted alexia would seduce an orc...

You've complained about it before. Orcs are not rape machines. They understand a basic concept like "Don't rape the bosses woman". That doesn't mean she never gets any advances or cat calls. But, she is effectively perfectly safe because people know not to harm her.

No we're not adding an Alexia/Orc scene unless we have a good idea for one that fits into one of her storylines.
As for @T51bwinterized, ok i kind of get it, BUT you are making ever more corruption based events for alexia, so why would it not work?
Alexia fucked an apprentice while she was a spy for Jezera and that didnt seem to bother anybody, sure she drank a potion, and that mechanic could be used again, couldnt it?

this game, i mean the whole narrative and gameplay together entertained me more than geoffreys death entertained Tyrion, (to see your vicious bastard die, gave me more relieve than a thousand lying whores) so dont get me wrong, i love the game i rly do and i would also thank you all with a jerk-off session individually for making the game, but i just like to bring ideas in nothing more.
So if you dont like it, explain why and ill be ok with it.
If i bring up an already brought up idea and im repeating myself, remind me and ill understand it and move on and will try to not mention said idea again.
If you like it explain why and ill be happy.

but dont be so dismissive pls that was kind of unpleasant.
 
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Thank you @Back. i was thinking that aswell and maybe just a lustful and corrupted alexia would seduce an orc...


As for @T51bwinterized, ok i kind of get it, BUT you are making ever more corruption based events for alexia, so why would it not work?
Alexia fucked an apprentice while she was a spy for Jezera and that didnt seem to bother anybody, sure she drank a potion, and that mechanic could be used again, couldnt it?

this game, i mean the whole narrative and gameplay together entertained me more than geoffreys death entertained Tyrion, (to see your vicious bastard die, gave me more relieve than a thousand lying whores) so dont get me wrong, i love the game i rly do and i would also thank you all with a jerk-off session individually for making the game, but i just like to bring ideas in nothing more.
So if you dont like it, explain why and ill be ok with it.
If i bring up an already brought up idea and im repeating myself, remind me and ill understand it and move on and will try to not mention said idea again.
If you like it explain why and ill be happy.

but dont be so dismissive pls that was kind of unpleasant.
I am not being dismissive. I am being insistent. You have asked/made your case for why it should be in the game. I read and said no. If you persist in repeating the same case. I'm going to say no because the underlying logic has not changed.

The reason why it's a bad idea is simple. We have a lot of content to make. Most of it has to be highly planned out. The only events that we don't really plan out at this stage are the odd blow-off steam work for the writers and training work for new writers.

NTR events are complex, generally multi-state affairs. They normally only exist in the context of a broader storyline. Our actual Andras/Alexia NTR events are begging for attention. We are not going to run off from our actual storylines to make a complex orc/Alexia NTR event that we need to do all kinds of work on to make exist in the broader game. More importantly one that doesn't effect the actual NTR events that we're scrambling to get done.

We may someday choose to do a scene like that, but it ain't now.
 
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It may not star Alexia, but I personally feel like the Orciad gives players plenty of opportunity to see orc-based mind break from different angles within the scope of the current build of the game, considering the fact that orcs are mostly bit players in the scenario so far. Going forward, I could maybe see one (of multiple) Andras NTR endgame scenarios being him getting bored of Alexia and handing her off to the army, or maybe an endgame scenario where Alexia is corrupt and choosing of her own volition to cuck Rowan with “more virile” specimens, but they’re not scenarios I’d imagine being the most likely to make it in if there are only a few implemented endings (nor would they be my first choices, even if they sound appealing); and in any case, those sorts of scenarios are a long way off.
 

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I am not being dismissive. I am being insistent. You have asked/made your case for why it should be in the game. I read and said no. If you persist in repeating the same case. I'm going to say no because the underlying logic has not changed.

The reason why it's a bad idea is simple. We have a lot of content to make. Most of it has to be highly planned out. The only events that we don't really plan out at this stage are the odd blow-off steam work for the writers and training work for new writers.

NTR events are complex, generally multi-state affairs. They normally only exist in the context of a broader storyline. Our actual Andras/Alexia NTR events are begging for attention. We are not going to run off from our actual storylines to make a complex orc/Alexia NTR event that we need to do all kinds of work on to make exist in the broader game. More importantly one that doesn't effect the actual NTR events that we're scrambling to get done.

We may someday choose to do a scene like that, but it ain't now.
Objection: the alexia/apprentice NTR scene is neither complex nor rly deep, the only thing it does is establish the option for Jezz to use alexia as a spy to her will. (which gets no use, sadly)

no jokes aside, yes i understand but after the comming patch, what way will SOC go any teaser?
 

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Well I'm working on some more Rastedel stuff mostly, but I also have something else fun planned that y'all going to enjoy.
 

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Why is there no options to have interact or sex with Alexia or Helayna at will? For Alexia there is no options to talk to her if you chose not share a room with her, and even when you do share a room with her there is no option to sex her other than through the random events... and during my play through so far she only chose to have sex with Rowan like once so far in the castle despite being 24 weeks into the game, I haven't let her cheat on Rowan or get raped yet by the weird futa succubus. And its kind of odd that you can't just sex Helayna after you claim her considering the fact that she under a spell that makes her horny all the time and is just in your room naked.
What, you think a husband and wife have sex more then once every 24 weeks? Nah mate, they gotta put in some more NTR instead of that.
 

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What, you think a husband and wife have sex more then once every 24 weeks? Nah mate, they gotta put in some more NTR instead of that.
I mean they could just add a repeat sex button like how Cla-Min has the option to give Rowan repeated tit jobs, and Liurial has many repeated sex options.

Also the main issue I think is the fact that the events either fire randomly, or they fire at certain time intervals which then get bugged out by the too many other scenes firing off each week if you being a very productive Rowan. Cause sometimes I save scum and just press the "Skip" button 2-3 times just to see what events fire off, whether they are random or pre-determined events. The sex events between Alexia and Rowan will fire off randomly, cause during one of the tests where I just press skip for like 4-7 weeks 2 different Alexia scenes fired off a few weeks apart. Though when I went back to play the game normally I haven't gotten any sex scenes other than the predetermined one where you have sex with Alexia then Jezara asks you if you want to share the room with Alexia or not, and the only other one I have gotten so far is the one where they go on a picnic... and that one didn't fire off until week 33 or 34.

So its kind of weird that my character hasn't been able to have sex with his wife for months on end, despite the fact that he is basically plowing numerous other women every other week, she herself gets many chances to have sex with other characters (which in my play through she turns down), and Rowan can chose to have repeated sex with 2 other characters right that now are not his wife. So with that knowledge either the RNG sex with Alexia is just broken, or Alexia is just a terrible useless blue balling wife... since you can't interact with her normally without any event if you don't share a room with her, and you can't even sex her unless RNG. And my character was sharing a room with her for like 6 months and not once did they get to have sex... unless I opted to have both of them get essentially raped by the Succubus. Its almost as if she didn't exist except when convenient which sucks because the whole reason why Rowan is even serving the Twins is because of her, and yet his interactions with her are basically nonexistent. Like why does Rowan (the players) even care about her if he (they) never get to see any events to make them like or want to protect her... there are really no scenes where they bond with each other romantically, nor are they expressing it physically through sex. I understand there are scenes for what I just mentioned, but to me they are all RNG and they either have a very low rate of firing off, or currently bugging out due to other events firing off that override them... cause honest getting only one sex / romantic interaction between Rowan and his wife in 9 months of game time is pretty disappointing.

If that was the case, then I would prefer to have the option to simply serve the twins out of my own volition because I agree with their point of view for a new world order and maybe because I am simply in love with Jezara instead of my useless wife who I have no interaction with.
 
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