That's the point. People are giving it a pass *because* it's a smaller independent thing, even though that's no excuse. The amount of times they've fucking added something worthwhile or progressed the main story in any way..I can count them on one hand. From the way people on this thread are talking about it and analysing it like it's Tolkien or something, you'd think it *was* a massive AAA game. I mean, come on....
Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.08] [Vénus Noire]
Not sure if serious or unaware that Versus XIII was in development hell for so long it got turned into XV... Which was in development for significantly longer than SoC has been.This ''game'' has been around for over 5 years and it's not even halfway done. Who would play this pile of shit? I don't care how much effort goes into it, there's no excuses for making/releasing a game like this. Ridiculous. I played (and quite enjoyed) it a year or so ago but when I saw the development progressing at a snail's pace and the creators constantly changing and overhauling things, I said ''screw this'' and never touched it again. I hope the 15 year wait is worth it, folks. We never waited this long for Final Fantasy Versus XIII, and yet some people will wait for a fucking porn game
That was my point. This thing has already been going on for over 5 years and it's not even halfway done! I doubt it's even a third of the way through...I remember someone mentioning that they're still on Act I. What?!? And for what?! A freakin' porn game...
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Because of people like you we get so little quality porn games. Do you rally think that if it's a porn game it has to be shit fast fap material??
That was most certainly not your point as it is completely incompatible with your point. FFXIII Versus was canceled and the remnants were turned into something else, which did not go through the same level of development hell that Versus did. You're using an example that is inherently different from Seeds of Chaos, made by a team of hundreds of people with experienced as opposed to a small handful people who quite honestly have no idea how to properly develop a video game. This is a patreon funded project and as a result is not something that can be compared to any kind of professionally developed and published project. Your example ignores the actual method in which the games are developed, how many people worked on them, the external forces they had to contend with, and many other elements of game development. Your point is without merit and quite frankly is moronic.
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Dunno about Versus XIII, but I've always felt that regular XIII was only good for the porn people made of it.
ALL porn games are essentially shit fap material, I don't know why you would think otherwise. Some just happen to think they're above that when they're not.
Why are you so caught up with the mention of Versus XIII? It was a comparison made mostly in jest. I realise they're not comparable in any real way, so there's no need to be a muppet. My point is that this ''game'' is getting a pass when it shouldn't, and it has people contributing thousands of dollars a month to these developers with virtually no experience, and for what? Nothing, basically. It is far too ambitious, progresses at a snail's pace and only exists because suckers, probably people like yourself, hand over money to the project. Calling it incremental progress taxes the very fucking definition of the word.... So put Versus XIII/XV/Whatever aside for the moment and use that noggin'.
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Not that I agree with you- but you've been going on about it so much that I am very curious; what exactly do you want people to do as a response to your assertion that the project is "too ambitious, progresses at a snail's pace, and only exists because of suckers?"
Do you want to illuminate to all of the game's fans how they shouldn't subscribe? Are you are upset about the main plot not progressing b/c you have no interest in the sub-plots which are foundational for making the story work over time? You want to question the skills or efforts of the dev team? Or do you just want to bitch?
Regardless of if we agree or not- I'm failing to see exactly what the point of your comments are- except to be an asshole to the good people developing the game.
The devs are very clear about what content they are working on, the releases are consistent. You get like 20-30 pieces of art and 50,000 - 100,000s of words of narrative to read every release assuming you are interested in the plots they are working on in the moment. People are free to decide how much that is worth to them and fund accordingly- its just like any other fiscal decisions about how to spend your assets- it is your choice. You can invest nothing. You can invest ONLY when the team is working on plots you like (like I do). Or any other of the myriad of financial options you have at your disposal.
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I have no clue why you're making that generalization. It's like you're saying ALL horror movies are gory, ALL RPG games are violent, ALL marvel movies are made for kids, ALL classical music is for old people.
Generalizations (for the most part) don't work, and often perpetuate harmful stereotypes. I suggest you qualify your statement – MOST porn games are essentially shit fap material (but some are not)
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I would like to research these "not shit fap material" games you speak of???
I have no clue why you're making that generalization. It's like you're saying ALL horror movies are gory, ALL RPG games are violent, ALL marvel movies are made for kids, ALL classical music is for old people.
Generalizations (for the most part) don't work, and often perpetuate harmful stereotypes. I suggest you qualify your statement – MOST porn games are essentially shit fap material (but some are not)
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For research!I would like to research these "not shit fap material" games you speak of
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Completed game. Fond memories of this one. First visual novel I’ve played in my life. Very traditional visual novel feel; just read texts and select the occasional choices. Option to date 5 girls, with bad ends for each but no harem ends. You basically play as a student who had to transfer schools. The girls you can date are each physically disabled, but the emphasis of the game is on their distinct characters and personalities that transcend those disabilities.
•Fruits of Grisaia
Completed game. Another classic visual novel, 50+ hours in content. Beware dark themes though, including parental abuse and cannibalism (no, these themes aren't there for some fetish, they're present because of the storyline. Also those scenes aren't sexy at all, they are made to make you genuinely sad).
About a student with a dark, cryptic past who attends a boarding school in rural Japan. Option to date 5 girls, no harem endings, ton of good writing. Has two sequels: Labyrinth of Grisaia (strangely enough, SFW but has non-canon bonus smut scenarios) and Eden of Grisaia (NSFW, you can finally bang multiple girls). Tons of spin-offs and spiritual sequels as well.
•LiL
Incomplete game, funded on Patreon, dev usually updates twice a month. Play the NSFW version, not the SFW Patreon version.
I stand by my comment, take that for what you will.???
I have no clue why you're making that generalization. It's like you're saying ALL horror movies are gory, ALL RPG games are violent, ALL marvel movies are made for kids, ALL classical music is for old people.
Generalizations (for the most part) don't work, and often perpetuate harmful stereotypes. I suggest you qualify your statement – MOST porn games are essentially shit fap material (but some are not)
I was only responding to the assholishness of people replying to my original comment. I'm more or less done talking about the game itself. The developers can carry on making the game they want to, I wasn't even addressing them personally. They get thousands of dollars to finance it so I'm sure thy'll be fine..
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Someone should of remove all the "gameplay" and make the game be about just a vn with different flavoured routes.
The exploration part has no meaningful function.
The exploration part has no meaningful function.
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I have unironically played Sengoku Rance for the gameplay.
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Hey devs, are you guys in charge of the walkthrough/scene guide or is it done by a fan? I'm just asking because it might be nice to have it organized (on a separate page or whatever) by release or by character, so if you want to pursue a specific path it's easier to keep track of what you're doing and supposed to be doing?
"I only called everyone an idiot for supporting a freak'n porn game on a site dedicated to porn games, why is everyone mean to me?"
Since, people are on the topic of these long running games. I have always been curious. How much have you guys spent on this game? Have you been supporting from the start? Will you keep supporting for another 5 years or say enough is enough after a certain year limit?
Honestly, I don't care what people do with their money. It is theirs. I'm just curious how gamer's mindset works on these projects. Is there a certain point at which you start questioning you support if it takes too long?
Honestly, I don't care what people do with their money. It is theirs. I'm just curious how gamer's mindset works on these projects. Is there a certain point at which you start questioning you support if it takes too long?