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Buffalo Fred

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been ages since I tried this one.

Quick question, is it possible to have "only" Jez and Alexia ntr happen, or is it more of an all or nothing kind of deal with that content?
 

Fyo

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Quick question, is it possible to have "only" Jez and Alexia ntr happen, or is it more of an all or nothing kind of deal with that content?
If you mean no Andras/men, yes, they won't be included. If you mean literally just Jezera, I'm not sure, maybe?
 

Skantarios

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Even then, without Jezera’s portals and Andras at the head of the army, there’s no way the resources at Rowan’s disposal would have been enough to conquer Rastedel, or even Raeve Keep.
I'd argue Andras was unneeded at Raeve keep (we certainly didn't see him do anything 10 orcs couldn't have done), in the battle agaisnt the field army Rowan wanted to keep him out of the field which certainly doesn't paint him as vital and he didn't even participate in the battle of Rastedel, he just led the army Rowan recruited marching through the gates opened by the coup Rowan made happen. Jezera's portals are indeed very useful but I was under the impression it was something she stumbled into like the necklaces that enslave Rowan and Alexia. If anybody has a line pointing to the contrary then I will certainly give her props for those.

As for the other individuals in the keep nobody comes even close to the amount of usefulness Rowan does. They are a pretty good support team but at the end of the day they are just buff bitches for Rowan while he creates all the successes that give them momentum going forward. Everyone else was dispensable.

Much like the portals and magic McGuffins its plot convenience they find/cajole these useful people. They are an empire held together by plot convivence and duct tape and the moment Rowan fucks off nobody will remember to buy more duct tape.

This might change now that they actually have to rule a large realm. Like I said Jezera rages and lashes out when diplomatic efforts don't go her way but now she has some actual leverage for the future which might mean she might consistently get her way. Andras seems to be actually reading about battles and was the first to recognize Rowan's battle plan could work. He might become a good general that doesn't need Rowan to pre-plan every battle for him.

But these are maybes for the future. I'd love the twins be competent and dangerous in their own right instead of bumbling from disaster to disaster and then running off to Daddy Rowan to fix it.
 

aykarin

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been ages since I tried this one.

Quick question, is it possible to have "only" Jez and Alexia ntr happen, or is it more of an all or nothing kind of deal with that content?
It's possible. Even if you have NTR turned on, YOU decide each and every time whether a sex scene will happen or not.
 
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T51bwinterized

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Last time i tried it, it was leaning to ntr more and more. I guess now it's more ntr than not?
Definitely not. Last release we released 5 new scenes. None were NTR whatsoever. In the releases prior NTR hasn't made up more then 1/3rd of scenes in a long time.
 
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Jynx_lucky_j

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And why is there a female protagonist in the tags, if we play for a guy in a game like talk?
While Rowan is the primary protagonist, Alexia is considered to be a secondary protagonist. The early bits of the game are Rowan heavy by the time to get to the end of the current content, you will have spent almost as many scenes in Alexia's perspective and making choices as her as well.

ive stopped playing since your unable to kill the demons and take over and following what ur supposed to do i still die at wifes hands so.
You can't kill the demons and take over because you are still in the beginning of the story. The current content spans a little under 1/3 of the planned story arc. If this was a movie it would be the equivalent of complaining that the hero hasn't defeated the bad guy yet when you are only 30 minutes in.

As for your wife killing you, it sounds like you triggered the week 60 bad end by not completing your objectives by the deadline. You need to recruit the orc army in the northwest corner of the map by resolving thier leadership dispute and visit the city of Rastedal in the north east corner both by week 60.
 
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While playing new favor event, exception after thigh sex with Jezera.

Edit: Additionally, in Rowan's fight with Torlene, the wrong name appears in the textbox when Alexia calls out to him: "Rowan! Be careful!"

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diebesgrab

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I'd argue Andras was unneeded at Raeve keep (we certainly didn't see him do anything 10 orcs couldn't have done), in the battle agaisnt the field army Rowan wanted to keep him out of the field which certainly doesn't paint him as vital and he didn't even participate in the battle of Rastedel, he just led the army Rowan recruited marching through the gates opened by the coup Rowan made happen. Jezera's portals are indeed very useful but I was under the impression it was something she stumbled into like the necklaces that enslave Rowan and Alexia. If anybody has a line pointing to the contrary then I will certainly give her props for those.

As for the other individuals in the keep nobody comes even close to the amount of usefulness Rowan does. They are a pretty good support team but at the end of the day they are just buff bitches for Rowan while he creates all the successes that give them momentum going forward. Everyone else was dispensable.

Much like the portals and magic McGuffins its plot convenience they find/cajole these useful people. They are an empire held together by plot convivence and duct tape and the moment Rowan fucks off nobody will remember to buy more duct tape.

This might change now that they actually have to rule a large realm. Like I said Jezera rages and lashes out when diplomatic efforts don't go her way but now she has some actual leverage for the future which might mean she might consistently get her way. Andras seems to be actually reading about battles and was the first to recognize Rowan's battle plan could work. He might become a good general that doesn't need Rowan to pre-plan every battle for him.

But these are maybes for the future. I'd love the twins be competent and dangerous in their own right instead of bumbling from disaster to disaster and then running off to Daddy Rowan to fix it.
They are competent and dangerous. Jezera didn’t “stumble into” her talents, she honed them over the course of her life. She describes to Alexia at one point how she apprenticed to a jeweler for a while, which helps her craft the items she enchants. Her spycraft may be amateurish, but she does manage to affect both the battle before Rastedel and the political situation within it. And she’s no slouch in battle, getting the battle in Raeve Keep back under control after Andras is wounded.

Andras is consistently depicted as massively strong, able to take essentially any single person out in one-on-one combat (and several normal soldiers without breaking a sweat). He’s vulnerable, yes, and arrogant enough that he consistently puts himself in positions of danger, which bites him in the ass, but a powerful demon at the head of an army of orcs has shock value, especially on those occasions where he runs wild. Seeing Andras leading the army, even after the damage has been done, destroys morale. No Andras also means none of the orcs from the northwestern camp—Rowan wouldn’t have the respect he needed to even operate within the camp without Andras having appeared with him his first time there.

What Andras and Jezera are bad at is management. They’re temperamental and willful, and let their pride and whims cloud their better judgment. That doesn’t actually make them bad leaders—they just need people to take care of the management stuff for them, which they recognized and sourced Rowan for. They’re still highly dangerous, probably a match individually for any of the previous war’s great heroes; Jezera has some small talent at spycraft, even if she is still an amateur; and again, identifying and utilizing talent is a greater talent in itself than you seem to be willing to concede. There’s a reason modern bureaucracy is so inefficient, and that’s because talented people get lost in the shuffle.

And in no way could Rowan pull off what he’s done without the other major castle NPCs. Every one of them is pulling off jobs that it would take several other people longer to do, and Rowan doesn’t have the manpower or time to deal with that. Read any of the several instances of Rowan struggling with castle management, and imagine how much worse it would be without people as skilled as Cliohna or Skordred doing the jobs they’ve been assigned. If you got rid of any one big NPC, sure, it might not immediately fall apart, but get rid of two or three and not even Rowan would be able to hold things together.
 

rivon

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so...can we fucking killd the red demon yet?
YEh in act 3 your wet dreams will come true probably! Come back in 5 years RAmbo!
Can't wait for the planned Preg content. I thoroughly enjoy this game
Pregnancy was never promised they just sad "we like pregnancy but it will be hard to implement" and " we see what we can do"
Will be nice if winter or rain tell us whether they can squeeze in one or two pregnancy scene in act 1 or that just wishful thinking.
 
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huvvaligen

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Anyone know how the new "chaos incursion" events works? Ive gotten reports from the orcs that there Ghorza is rampaging in the western forest, but ive been over literally every tile on the map and cant find him.
 

Buffalo Fred

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If you mean no Andras/men, yes, they won't be included. If you mean literally just Jezera, I'm not sure, maybe?
Aye I was referring to Andras/men, I don't mind a little girl on girl action on the side, but too many dicks ruins the dish for me, as it were.
Thanks! :)
 
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Nifferman

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Last time i tried it, it was leaning to ntr more and more. I guess now it's more ntr than not?
Dude this game only has optional scenes and there's even an ntr off button u f'ing m'ron even if u turned ntr on u can simple avoid it by basic yes/no questions I always believed that porn or any related to that doesn't man people dumb but after reading through this thread I am doubting my believes
 

Skantarios

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They are competent and dangerous. Jezera didn’t “stumble into” her talents
I'm talking about the things she has that are actually useful. The portals and the obedience necklaces which she did not produce. When Rowan asks if they can use another one she admits she doesn't understand how they work or how to reproduce them. She very much stumbled into the most useful things in her arsenal. Unless she is lying but that implies producing those necklaces is hard and she is limited in how many she can produce because otherwise they should be using that on literally every servant. The other two things are incredibly minor and honestly unnecessary. Anyone could have done it and probably done it better.

Andras is consistently depicted as massively strong, able to take essentially any single person out in one-on-one combat (and several normal soldiers without breaking a sweat).
As I said, there is nothing he did that couldn't have been done by a fearsome and dumb orc. When it comes to armies its about numbers, equipment and logistics. One fighter makes little difference (majority of fighters in battle won't even see him, a soldier in an melee scrum is as blind as a bat, ask any historian) and without Rowan planning the battle he would likely have managed to get himself killed anyway. Hell Ulcro could have easily been negotiate with, the gifts for Delane where all from outside the camp. After that you can easily convince him to allow Rowan to talk to her. You don't even need to operate in the camp realistically (which likely could have been achieved regardless).

That doesn’t actually make them bad leaders
It totally does. They spend more time getting in the way of their own plans and alienating their own servants for a whim than actually moving towards their goals. All Rowan would need to do to collapse their campaign is die. You said yourself their biggest "talent" is finding people to do everything for them and I see nothing about the way they act that it isn't writer fiat that they are able to do so.

If you got rid of any one big NPC, sure, it might not immediately fall apart, but get rid of two or three and not even Rowan would be able to hold things together.
Maybe, but like I said, them finding and being able to get these talented individuals is like their necklaces. Plot convenience to make mediocre villains not fail instantly. It doesn't speak to their ability of which we have seen very little. Yeah they are powerful in a one on one fight. They'd still have lost to the first organized resistance they encountered as we've seen if Rowan fails in preparing.
 
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