Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.10] [Vénus Noire]

[Jynx_lucky_j]

To be honest, I don't mind it. You want the smart Alexia? Sure, in the intro play Alexia as just not being fooled by Andras' bullshit and then play her as being repulsed by him. Simple.

You know, it does occur to me that people have a tendency to discuss Rowan and Alexia as if their personal playthrough is the canon version of the characters. But it is more like Schrödinger's characterization.

Rowan both is/isn't gay. He both is/isn't a cuck. He is/isn't cool with letting his wife fuck the minotaur. Alexia is/isn't a slut. She is/isn't a magical prodigy. She will/won't do anything to get pregnant...

The devs have outright stated during a "gay Rowan" debate that all choices are equally canon. So, a lot of the complaints about the characters comes down to the player making poor choices. Maybe they just really wanted to see the sex scene or maybe they didn't know how the choice would pan out. But in many cases the character did that thing because you made them do it.

 

[Filipis]

Alright, time for some real questions, like: Why doesn't the latest (December 2023) update have a codename? You know, like Flame's Kiss and such...

 

[Marc9]

NO ONE answered my question so I ask it again:

In some part of the game does ALEXIA watch Rowan having gay sex?

 

[SagePage]

To be honest, I don't mind it. You want the smart Alexia? Sure, in the intro play Alexia as just not being fooled by Andras' bullshit and then play her as being repulsed by him. Simple.

Is it one or the other? Can she get pounded out on her own terms or is it her always basically been an idiot? I haven't played much but it feel like fucking him so soon after her town got torched and she was kidnapped is a dumb move by default without some corruption happening where she stops giving a fuck about her old life.

I'm new to the game so I haven't really seen much. But I'd rather not bother much with Andras if Alexia is just dumb when it's him.

 

[Marc9]

Is this image from the game?

 

[Blurpee69]

Is this image from the game?




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No.

Edit: Yes, but apparently also no.

 

[Rein]

Is this image from the game?




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Yes, but it has since been updated.

 

[Jynx_lucky_j]

Is it one or the other? Can she get pounded out on her own terms or is it her always basically been an idiot? I haven't played much but it feel like fucking him so soon after her town got torched and she was kidnapped is a dumb move by default without some corruption happening where she stops giving a fuck about her old life.

I'm new to the game so I haven't really seen much. But I'd rather not bother much with Andras if Alexia is just dumb when it's him.

One thing to keep in mind is that in the game it has been 6 month between the time she is kidnaped and Rowan arrives to rescue her. So while for us players it barely been a few minutes, but for her is has been a pretty long time. And from her internal monologue Andras had treated her with nothing but kindness that whole time. Also Alexia was unconscious for most of the attack, she likely doesn't know how bad the attack was before she gets an opportunity to talk with Rowan. I feel like she gets judge awfully harshly for not having all the same knowledge the player has.

That said Alexia doesn't have to have sex with him right away. You can turn him down over an and over again until you think the time is right (which may be never). Andras keeps offering himself to her over and over again, so there are many potential Alexia/Andras scenes throughout the game. Alexia will almost always have a chance to hook up with Andras when ever you think it is the right time.

 

[Marc9]

Yes, but it has since been updated.

Has it been updated does that mean they removed this image from the game? I didn't understand.

 

[Jynx_lucky_j]

Has it been updated does that mean they removed this image from the game? I didn't understand.

It means it looks like this now



Essentially in old versions of the game there were two art styles. They are now working on updating the game to have a single art style, so any art in the other style is getting updated to match the rest of the art.

 

[Marc9]

It means it looks like this now

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Essentially in old versions of the game there were two art styles. They are now working on updating the game to have a single art style, so any art in the other style is getting updated to match the rest of the art.

OK, I get it, so it's canonical that Alexia watches Rowan being passive in sex with the Minotaur. And apparently she still gets excited haha.

 

[Segnbora]

Alexia will almost always have a chance to hook up with Andras when ever you think it is the right time.

Honestly, this is part of a mechanic that I wish they'd adopted from the beginning. It's far, far too late to go back and introduce it, but I wish they'd decoupled Alexia & Rowan's sexual corruption from the health of their relationship.

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[Jynx_lucky_j]

OK, I get it, so it's canonical that Alexia watches Rowan being passive in sex with the Minotaur. And apparently she still gets excited haha.

As I was discussing just a couple posts ago, it's is only canon for the specific playthrough in which you choose for that to happen. You can also choose for Alexia to have sex with the minotaur while Rowan watches, or for them both to take turns with the minotaur, or for neither of them to have sex with the minotaur. Think of it more like alternate timelines, they are all equally canonical.

Honestly, this is part of a mechanic that I wish they'd adopted from the beginning. It's far, far too late to go back and introduce it, but I wish they'd decoupled Alexia & Rowan's sexual corruption from the health of their relationship.

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Actually they are separate. There is a Rowan Corruption track, a Alexia Corruption track, and there is a Rowan/Alexia Relationship track. And they move independently from each other, so it is entirely possible to have Rowan and/or Alexia be highly corrupted while also still maintaining a strong relationship.

That said it is harder to gain lot of corruption when you aren't slutting around, particularly for Alexia. To get her corruption high while maintaining her relationship with Rowan you need to lean heavily in to X’Zaratl's content and/or push Alexia's fertility treatments with Nasim to their limit.

 

[Segnbora]

Actually they are separate.

But, unless I misremember, not with Andras. Alexia and Rowan have to be on the outs for her to get with him, right? I might very well be wrong about this; I don't actually play the game anymore.

 

[preewds]

I think it isn't corruption that decides wether she can end up with Andras or Jezera, or if she stays in a loving relationship with Rowan, rather it is loyalty that decides it. If I am not mistaken that is a check in the game, and you can't have her be loyal to more that one character, thus if she is stil loyal to Rowan based on previous choices made, the Andras NTR path doesn't progress further. Maybe you can have her both on Rowan and Jezera. It feels like you can to me at least but I could be completely wrong about all of this ofc, as I haven't read the code for the game.

 

[RandomGuy99]

so far my favourite is the chaos magic alexia breeding scene

 

[Jynx_lucky_j]

But, unless I misremember, not with Andras. Alexia and Rowan have to be on the outs for her to get with him, right? I might very well be wrong about this; I don't actually play the game anymore.

What you are describing is entering Andras' NTR path. When she is on his NTR path then yes he is training her to just be a slut for him. But there are many encounter with him that are not part of the NTR path as well.

There are 3 requirements to start the NTR path.
1. A low relationship between Alexia and Rowan
2. Alexia having at least medium corruption
3. Andras having more influence on Alexia than Jezera, and not already being on Jezera's NTR path.

If you don't meet all those criteria then you wont start the Andras NTR path.

In the event you do trigger his NTR path you have several opportunities to derail it in the first scene. When Rowan asks Alexia to deliver some orders to the orcs, don't insult the orc back, if you do insult the orc then don't turn to Andras for help after the orc almost rapes her, if you do turn to Andras for help then don't meet with him afterwards. If you avoid doing any of those actions you will derail Andras' NTR path and you don't have to worry about Alexia turning in to his personal cumslut by sleeping with Andras anymore.

That said having sex with a demon always raises corruption. It doesn't matter which demon it is. And Andras also has a number of scenes where he is actively trying to drive a wedge between Alexia and Rowan, and if Alexia goes along in those cases it will reduce her relationship with Rowan. But there are also a few opportunities to increase their relationship stat that can be used to boost it back up.

For example, if Andras tells Alexia to suck his dick because he is horny and she agrees, she gains corruption for sucking off a demon. If Andras tells her she should fuck him because her husband is a wimp, and she responds that he's right her husband is a wimp and proceeds to fuck him, she gains corruption for fucking a demon and then she also loses relationship because she is thinking less of Rowan.

 

[Simbad-sea]

Is this a joke? The game asks - do you want to see NTR scenes? You say no, but they're still there. (special hello to the box scene).

 

[Jynx_lucky_j]

Is this a joke? The game asks - do you want to see NTR scenes? You say no, but they're still there. (special hello to the box scene).

Can you give an example?
Either it is a bug and should be reported, or you have an overly broad definition of NTR.

 

[Simbad-sea]

Can you give an example?
Either it is a bug and should be reported, or you have an overly broad definition of NTR.

When she opens the box and masturbates, there are options. Surrender or resist. After four or five resistances, the answer is give in. All five answers. I mean, she's being fucked.