Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.10] [Vénus Noire]

[Xenon-San]

i have unpacked the images and browsed trough scenes and i must admit that i never saw such low amount of good content in a fantasy world with literally every possible furry and fantasy character possible, instead of using fantasy themes most of this content is vanilla and rest is literally gay (pun very intended haha)
this is what happens when you try to focus on many characters instead of a one female (or male) character
my advice: more monsters, monster gangbangs and monster dicks

 

[Sharinel]

i have unpacked the images and browsed trough scenes and i must admit that i never saw such low amount of good content in a fantasy world with literally every possible furry and fantasy character possible, instead of using fantasy themes most of this content is vanilla and rest is literally gay (pun very intended haha)
this is what happens when you try to focus on many characters instead of a one female (or male) character
my advice: more monsters, monster gangbangs and monster dicks

Mate, they are earning over 10,000 a month just from Patreon, never mind what they are taking from Steam. But now that they know what your advice is, I'm sure they will pivot out of that strategy and follow what you tell them. Thank God you were here to point out where they were going wrong.

 

[Rein]

No no, he's right, there are a lot of human love interests for a fantasy game. I do hope to focus on more exotic races in the future.

 

[bobbybrownlove]

i have unpacked the images and browsed trough scenes and i must admit that i never saw such low amount of good content in a fantasy world with literally every possible furry and fantasy character possible, instead of using fantasy themes most of this content is vanilla and rest is literally gay (pun very intended haha)
this is what happens when you try to focus on many characters instead of a one female (or male) character
my advice: more monsters, monster gangbangs and monster dicks

My wish? More GAY monster dicks baby! <3

 

[Xenon-San]

Thank God you were here to point out where they were going wrong.

you can insert you puny sarcasm into your earhole anon this thread was made in 2016 and the game is on version 0.3 i honestly hope they will earn 40 000 per month from this game cause you braindead coomers don't deserve better
it's only a shame that such promising game will never be finished

 

[aykarin]

you can insert you puny sarcasm into your earhole anon this thread was made in 2016 and the game is on version 0.3 i honestly hope they will earn 40 000 per month from this game cause you braindead coomers don't deserve better
it's only a shame that such promising game will never be finished

Chill, bro... Every two months, there is new content, including several sex scenes and amazing illustrations. Just because you are disappointed that your favorite fetishes are not well represented doesn't mean everything else is worthless. Imho the game is worth supporting (which I do on Patreon) for its great writing and art.

 

[aesir150]

I am sorry but WTF is this gaslighting BS? Kethar is in no way an orc. He literally looks more like the runaway slave blacksmith elf that Rowan encounters in a mine than an orc. Where is his big pointy ears? Where is his tusks? Where is his big round head?

Heck even Rowan is probably closer to the appearance of an orc is than Kethar.



Here are what the normal orcs look like.


Even the pretty slender female orcs don't look that elf / human like.

 

[Mfka5]

I wonder how they use and distribute those 12k a month.
With that ammount of money, there should be some consistant and professional looking art.
Some of them look really good, best of the best and yet some really cartoonish and bad

 

[aesir150]

I wonder how they use and distribute those 12k a month.
With that ammount of money, there should be some consistant and professional looking art.
Some of them look really good, best of the best and yet some really cartoonish and bad

Pretty sure they have like 3-4 writers, so 12K isn't that much considering a normal person working a full time minimum wage job at $15/hr is roughly $2,400 per month. Then add in actual coders / game developers who obviously don't work for minimum wage, and the art commissions that usually cost like $200-$300 per picture. So let just assume they have 4 full time employees for simplicity sake (since they probably have more than 4 workers with various pay and working arrangements), that is basically $9,600 just paid out in wages assuming they all only make $15/hr on average, then add in 20% for taxes and 12% cut patreon takes and 5% average for

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(currency conversion and payment processing fees), that is probably another $4,440.

Also Seeds of Chaos have actually done a pretty good job of going back and redoing a lot of their very early artwork to make it more consistent. If you play the older versions, like 0.2.x versions the art was all over the place, where it was like 3-5 different styles and the same characters look different in every picture. Right now it still looks like there is 2 different styles, some more recent left over pictures from before the complete redesign of Rowan and art style. But for the most part they are consistent in making the character look like the actual characters in version 0.3.13. I remember Cla-Min use to look like 8 different characters in the CGs cause in some she would be super lanky and tall, and others she would be short and fat, her face and other body proportions kept changing. Rowan would sometimes look like a cute scrawny guy, and other times he would look like a complete beefcake meathead.

Seeds of Chaos is probably one of the few games Renpy porn games that I have see go back and gradually redo their art, and do multiple rewrites to touch up various earlier scenes. Most usually just roll with what they have and never go back to fix anything.

 

[Xenon-San]

I wonder how they use and distribute those 12k a month.

Well, cocaine and hookers are not cheap anon
you have to understand

 

[HentaiGamerN00b]

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I am sorry but WTF is this gaslighting BS? Kethar is in no way an orc. He literally looks more like the runaway slave blacksmith elf that Rowan encounters in a mine than an orc. Where is his big pointy ears? Where is his tusks? Where is his big round head?

Heck even Rowan is probably closer to the appearance of an orc is than Kethar.

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I think the overall idea would be to show what a halfbreed orc (or the halfbreed of a halfbreed orc) could be, the purity of their race vanished, producing (in some cases) the worst of both worlds, not too brilliant, weak and meat cannon warrior...

 

[FormerlyknownasOlheden]

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I am sorry but WTF is this gaslighting BS? Kethar is in no way an orc. He literally looks more like the runaway slave blacksmith elf that Rowan encounters in a mine than an orc. Where is his big pointy ears? Where is his tusks? Where is his big round head?

Heck even Rowan is probably closer to the appearance of an orc is than Kethar.

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Here are what the normal orcs look like.

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Even the pretty slender female orcs don't look that elf / human like.

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Kethar looks lovely though? Where did you come across him?

 

[aesir150]

Kethar looks lovely though? Where did you come across him?

He is from a random mountain event. So while exploring just walk over the mountains and you get an event called the lost tribe or something like that.

I agree he is a good looking dude in the picture, but he just totally not an orc in anyway based on that picture. Maybe his eyes might of given away that he is an orc, but we only have 1 picture of him and his eyes is closed.

I think they should reuse that picture for a different event and actually commision a different CG for Kethar that looks more like an orc.

 

[DemiMaximoff]

Guys I modified the game code so that the dice always rolls the required number, and the game immediately became so much more fun. I saw 3 playthroughs worth of events in a single playthrough. No more infinite savescumming for paths you want no matter what. Would definitely recommend

 

[sin(α)]

Guys I modified the game code so that the dice always rolls the required number, and the game immediately became so much more fun. I saw 3 playthroughs worth of events in a single playthrough. No more infinite savescumming for paths you want no matter what. Would definitely recommend

The hell are you even talking about? Dice rolls? There're couple of those in the code usually having some minor effect on some secondary stats. Skill rolls? They have more impact, but really nothing crucial either.

The "paths" in the game are - at least for me - like lesbian Alexia, gay Rowan, corrupted Alexia/Rowan, pure Alexia/Rowan etc. You still need different playthroughs to see all of them. Despite of the results of your dice/skill rolls.

You don't have to change the game code to "success" when skill rolling btw, just "pump up" your skills in console like Avatar().skills[skill-you-want-to-pump].level = 999 for example. It's different for dice rolls, as there's no "more is always better" rule there. But their impact on the game is really minor in most of the cases and I wouldn't bother to change them anyway.

 

[DemiMaximoff]

The hell are you even talking about? Dice rolls? There're couple of those in the code usually having some minor effect on some secondary stats. Skill rolls? They have more impact, but really nothing crucial either.

The "paths" in the game are - at least for me - like lesbian Alexia, gay Rowan, corrupted Alexia/Rowan, pure Alexia/Rowan etc. You still need different playthroughs to see all of them. Despite of the results of your dice/skill rolls.

You don't have to change the game code to "success" when skill rolling btw, just "pump up" your skills in console like Avatar().skills[skill-you-want-to-pump].level = 999 for example. It's different for dice rolls, as there's no "more is always better" rule there. But their impact on the game is really minor in most of the cases and I wouldn't bother to change them anyway.

That's greatly underselling how much dice rolls matter.
Want audience with Ulcro and Batri? Dice Rolls.
Want to successfully look for the captive girl? Dice rolls.
Want to use the number of steps you have to the fullest without random hazards? Dice rolls
Want to see the scene with the lady in the cave? Dice rolls
Want the battle with the BDSM elf's owner to go the best it can for Rowan? Dice rolls
And that's just the ones I can think off the top of my head.

 

[aykarin]

Want audience with Ulcro and Batri? Dice Rolls.

You can try visiting them every week, each time repeating the dice roll. The same with sneaking to meet with the noblewoman. The game gives you lots of time to visit the Orciad camp many times.

Want to see the scene with the lady in the cave? Dice rolls

This is simply not true. The dice roll in that scene happens after the sex scene. The only thing you get if the dice roll goes well is +1 point to one of the castle management stats. Everything else happens regardless of the dice roll outcome.

These are just some examples. The game is designed in such a way that those outcomes only have slight meaning and failing will not bar you from seeing any significant parts of content or any sex scene.

 

[sin(α)]

Want audience with Ulcro and Batri? Dice Rolls.
Want to successfully look for the captive girl? Dice rolls.
Want to use the number of steps you have to the fullest without random hazards? Dice rolls
Want to see the scene with the lady in the cave? Dice rolls
Want the battle with the BDSM elf's owner to go the best it can for Rowan? Dice rolls

None of your examples have anything to do with dice rolls (as defined in utils.rpy). Guess you actually mean skill rolls (as defined in avatar.rpy with Avatar() class). These are different mechanics.

(As your first examples are about Orciad: the only cases when dice rolls have any effect during Orciad are concerning some minor details - like if you meet monks, caravan or bandits or how much gold you get / Batri's power rises after raids etc - during and after raids.)

About skill rolls... Yes, successful skill rolls make your life easier. But if you already decided to cheat, why to do it in a hard way / mess with the game code? (It's always difficult to predict how this affects the gameplay and believe me - I'm doing this a lot. I would never encourage anyone to mess with the game code unless he really knows what he does.) If you can simply use console to pump up your skills.

 

[DemiMaximoff]

None of your examples have anything to do with dice rolls (as defined in utils.rpy). Guess you actually mean skill rolls (as defined in avatar.rpy with Avatar() class). These are different mechanics.

(As your first examples are about Orciad: the only cases when dice rolls have any effect during Orciad are concerning some minor details - like if you meet monks, caravan or bandits or how much gold you get / Batri's power rises after raids etc - during and after raids.)

About skill rolls... Yes, successful skill rolls make your life easier. But if you already decided to cheat, why to do it in a hard way / mess with the game code? (It's always difficult to predict how this affects the gameplay and believe me - I'm doing this a lot. I would never encourage anyone to mess with the game code unless he really knows what he does.) If you can simply use console to pump up your skills.

The problem with using console to raise stat is that you have to do it for every stat, and for every playthrough. Also, what's minor is subjective. If there's a chance that I can cover my ears before Cliohna casts some spell in a monastery, I want it to happen.

 

[bobbybrownlove]

Just curious... what happens when you fail every skill check and take damage until that red bar fills completely?

I save scum like crazy to pass every check, but does the game just end?