Kisama33

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Does anyone know how long it'll likely take till the game's finished
Considering the game is still in Act 1 and the team is still uncertain of when they are finishing it (there are 2 more Acts planned, each one will be its own game) .

The good news is that this Arc is very close to be completed and the next will take a different approach to make the development process faster.

My guess is that it may take close to half a year to finish Act 1 (based on the fact the game gets a new update each 2 months and the amount of content remaining will need at least 2 updates + all the process of polishing and debugging the game that is required before the Final release).
 

Fleep

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My guess is that it may take close to half a year to finish Act 1 (based on the fact the game gets a new update each 2 months and the amount of content remaining will need at least 2 updates + all the process of polishing and debugging the game that is required before the Final release).
You are high on hopium if you think they are going to finish the game in 3 updates. We need at least two years for the Gobbos, the Fae and finishing up character arcs.
 

Nym85

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You are high on hopium if you think they are going to finish the game in 3 updates. We need at least two years for the Gobbos, the Fae and finishing up character arcs.
I'd say 9-10 updates should be enough, assuming they actually make some effort in an Act 1 epilogue after Rastedel that feels satisfying instead of just a cliffhanger. A demo built for Act 2 in the last update of 2026 while they are cleaning up Act 1 after it is content complete seems the best case scenario to me.

To elaborate, I think Astarte is done in the next three updates. They are actually working on that, I think the needed sex scenes got delivered though there is likely a bad end to be added there.
Gobbos are development hell, moving at a snail's pace. But they still should be able to finish them if just barely by the end of the year and it's not like they cannot progress other arcs in the meantime.
The fey and character arcs just need a couple of events each; alternatively they need nothing cause their stories are already way too advanced for a three act story in its first act.
 
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Kalenz123

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Just noticed this game lacks the male domination tag. Took me way longer to find it again than it should have because of that :cautious:
 

Oriandu

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This game would have finished a long time ago if it was solely focused on a single protagonist.
Nah. One protagonist wouldn't have changed anything about the development. It would have just filled in the game with more Rowan focused content or kept the Alexia scenes without her ability to make decisions and instead made her behave in response to her relationship and corruption stat as determined by the things Rowan does.
 

GrubaKielbasa

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Does anyone know how long it'll likely take till the game's finished
This game is not meant to be finished and everyone claiming the contrary is coping. 8 FUCKING (pun intended) YEARS and they still haven't finished ACT 1 of 3! At the current pace of development it would take them almost 30 years to finish the game. No. It's a fucking scam.
By the way, this artwork was in the game years ago. The dev who constantly posts ITT confirmed it was a possible ending CG that was reworked into a dream sequence. So they clearly had the art and intention of wrapping this game up a long time ago and didn't so they could continue milking patreon supporters.
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Devronman

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This game is not meant to be finished and everyone claiming the contrary is coping. 8 FUCKING (pun intended) YEARS and they still haven't finished ACT 1 of 3! At the current pace of development it would take them almost 30 years to finish the game. No. It's a fucking scam.
By the way, this artwork was in the game years ago. The dev who constantly posts ITT confirmed it was a possible ending CG that was reworked into a dream sequence. So they clearly had the art and intention of wrapping this game up a long time ago and didn't so they could continue milking patreon supporters.
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That just sounds like they rescoped the game and went in a different direction, which seems to fit with the way the story was reworked from the earlier (lesser) iteration. Sometimes you re-use assets you make for different things?
 

JoeSte91

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I like SoC, but I've seen people saying ACT 1 was close to being finished for the last 2-3 years. I'm just going to continue enjoying the updates, however, I don't really expect even ACT 1 to be completed soon, never mind the game.
 

aykarin

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This game is not meant to be finished and everyone claiming the contrary is coping. 8 FUCKING (pun intended) YEARS and they still haven't finished ACT 1 of 3! At the current pace of development it would take them almost 30 years to finish the game. No. It's a fucking scam.
By the way, this artwork was in the game years ago. The dev who constantly posts ITT confirmed it was a possible ending CG that was reworked into a dream sequence. So they clearly had the art and intention of wrapping this game up a long time ago and didn't so they could continue milking patreon supporters.
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What are you talking about? Despite the slow progress of overall development, the game has regular updates with no delays. The devs are very clear and transparent about what is being worked on. Sure, I would also like to have the game finished sooner, but my goal is not to see the endings, but rather, to experience the whole adventure. And so far it is amazing. During these eight years of development lots of great content has been added that makes for many hours of play.

So no, it's not a "scam". There are many games that milk their patrons by constantly delaying the updates and releasing low amounts of content. But this game is not one of them.
 

sorasych

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What are you talking about? Despite the slow progress of overall development, the game has regular updates with no delays. The devs are very clear and transparent about what is being worked on. Sure, I would also like to have the game finished sooner, but my goal is not to see the endings, but rather, to experience the whole adventure. And so far it is amazing. During these eight years of development lots of great content has been added that makes for many hours of play.

So no, it's not a "scam". There are many games that milk their patrons by constantly delaying the updates and releasing low amounts of content. But this game is not one of them.
I've been a patron of this game, 5 years ago. Since then almost no new content featuring main story has been released, especially involving Alexia and the twins. Some parts of Andras path is the exception. I've abandoned their patreon because it's doesn't make any sense to support devs in their development hell/milking the audience.
 

Devronman

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I've been a patron of this game, 5 years ago. Since then almost no new content featuring main story has been released, especially involving Alexia and the twins. Some parts of Andras path is the exception. I've abandoned their patreon because it's doesn't make any sense to support devs in their development hell/milking the audience.
Then what do you call the Andraste, main city and Goblin content? Isn't that all main quest stuff?
 
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Jynx_lucky_j

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I can't help but feel like a lot of people would be happier if you just checked in on the game once every 6-12 months.

As much as I enjoy this game, I'm not so hurting for stuff to play that I feel the need to constantly follow its development. I just check in once in a while to see how things are going. Maybe I'll load up the Scene Replay Mod to check out some of the new stuff if a scene seems particularly interesting. But in the end whether it is done next week or in 20 years just isn't that big of a deal.

We all wish the games was finished sooner but anyone who thinks the devs are doing nothing but kicking their feet up and collecting that fat patreon money should try . The game has improved a ton since then. In the game play, in the quality and quantity of the content, and in the artwork. Even though this is the version that got me into the game, when I look back on it now it seems practically unplayable compared to the current version. The people that pop up here occasionally saying something like "I played this game 5 year ago and no progress has been made" either they don't remember what the game was like back then or they haven't actually played the newer version.

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But to a lot of people the game still feels stagnate. And honestly, I do understand that feeling. In my mind there are 3 reasons that the game feels like it is treading water despite the vast improvements and several novels worth of additional content that has come out since then.

The first and probably biggest reason is the early Devs complete 95% of the main story line before they finished almost any of the side content. As things are right now the main story has been sitting in the same place for several years. And the main story has been 95% done all this time, all that's left is a bit of epilogue stuff to set up part 2. But when they rushed to the end, they vastly under estimated how much promised side content they had left to work on. So while we are getting a good amount of content, the main story of the game remains frozen in place.

Related to the first is the prevalence of side projects in early development. For a lot of the people involved this was their first game and first time working on a project like this, and there wasn't a lot of management or oversight. From what I can tell, a lot of the early devs were just working on whatever they felt like at the time or focusing on their own favorite characters, instead of working on the parts that would actually move the game toward completion. Earlier, I saw someone lamenting that the goblin recruitment arc was eating up a lot of time for a side project, after all we already have the orcs and they don't have nearly as much content as the goblins are getting. But the truth is that the goblin recruitment was actually planned to be part of the main story from the beginning, and it is the orc camp that was a side project. It's just that no one was working on the goblin for years to the point that even the climax of the game had to be written around the orc side content. So why was someone writing up an entirely superfluous yet extensive orc recruitment arc when no one had even written the main story's goblin recruitment arc yet? because no one was setting priorities and people were focusing on their own pet projects.

Finally, the last major contributor to the feeling of not progressing is the reworked content. Do to the fact that many of the early devs were new to both game development and writing, there was a very clear quality difference between a lot of the early created contend and the later developed content. There we also sections that didn't really feel like they fit with the rest of the game since the devs were often working so independently of each other. They had two different artist with vastly different styles making the art for the game, meaning half the scenes looked like they came from a totally different game. Personally, I'm more forgiving of this one because I feel like the reworked content is almost always a significant improvement.

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