Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.10] [Vénus Noire]
Jezera is a very young girl in the story, Rowan is older than her. Arzyl has more experience and has lived much longer. 200 years later, Jezera will become "more manipulative". It is no wonder that Arzyl knows how to get Jezera on her side.I like Arzyl too, but I understand that Jezera lives twenty years, for a demon who can live thousands of years. Of course, if we talk about characters not about appearance, but about their capabilities.I would also like to see a continuation of the Arzyl story. I like Arzyl more than Jezera, but I understand that we only have 4 main characters.
If Arzyl was the main antagonist from the start, maybe it would have been better. Seriously, her actions are much more appropriate for a being who deceives others to achieve her goals. Unlike Jezera's straightforward approach. Jezera killed the leader of the dark elves because she did not want to give up part of the conquered territories. Arzyl would have simply deceived them and gained additional power in the war.
mehGusta
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sure that would be possible.
we would need to make traveling to destinations a simple "go to" option, change the weekly cycle into a daily cycle to squeeze in all the random map events and then figure out when to fire events. that would still feel a bit like a managing h-game, but i mean if we minimize it to one button to control all the random events, it would be as close to a VN we can get. the story events would still function as normal.
however, it is a HUUUUUUUUUUUGEEEEEEE undertaking. not that hard, but a tremendous amount of time is necessary.
not to forget that someone would also need to keep the conversion updated. so yeah, no chance.
I crave more Rowan x Andras or Rowan x Greyhide
You can keep the Andras one but 100 percent give us more Greyhide (unfortunately I think most of the Greyhide content is complete right now and we won't see any more until possibly the next game in the series).
Sucky idea; you speak for yourself. Alternative: get good.
I mean there's debug options to cheat in the game if you really want to do away with the tougher aspects. Just use that and that should take care of most of the issues.
Btw, should we not have gotten a "News from the Six Realms" for February? I thought every month without a release has one of those posts.
Jynx_lucky_j
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Am I the only one that really likes my porn games to have game play? I always see people wanting to turn SoC into a visual novel, but I'm the opposite. While I'm fine with the game the way it is, but if i was going to make game play changes I would want more interaction, more systems, more management. I like my games to be games. Game play makes the sex scenes feel more rewarding, its like I earned that sexy picture.
Don't get me wrong, I like visual novels well enough. But for VNs I like ones that have lots of branching and where my choices major effects on how the story plays out going forward. Ones that are 90% the same no matter what you do usually don't really do much for me.
So making this game even more like a visual novel would make it much less appealing to me.
Don't get me wrong, I like visual novels well enough. But for VNs I like ones that have lots of branching and where my choices major effects on how the story plays out going forward. Ones that are 90% the same no matter what you do usually don't really do much for me.
So making this game even more like a visual novel would make it much less appealing to me.
I like them to have gameplay if the gameplay is good. Half the time though it feels like an armchair developer who keeps going "here is how I would do this" actually got a chance to do this . . . and it is either boring or actively bad.
Now with SoC I wouldn't actually say the gameplay is boring or bad. I just think it is half-baked. I know what I'd like but I am not a game dev so I don't think my choices would do better.
Also I think if you condensed SoC into a Visual Novel it would be more like "Pick what routes you like and then try to guess what choices are the right ones; bad choices either give you a bad end or just don't give you any content" which is quite common with VNs and imo is bad design; every choice should lead to something.
Now with SoC I wouldn't actually say the gameplay is boring or bad. I just think it is half-baked. I know what I'd like but I am not a game dev so I don't think my choices would do better.
Also I think if you condensed SoC into a Visual Novel it would be more like "Pick what routes you like and then try to guess what choices are the right ones; bad choices either give you a bad end or just don't give you any content" which is quite common with VNs and imo is bad design; every choice should lead to something.
ChubbyFatBoy
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Nope! Matter of fact....
I like the actual game in porn games. Even when it involves.... rpgmaker! Gasp! Shock! I know I know.
However, the "gameplay" in this game is ass. Got a large map, with limited movement, with random events. Whole thing is just undercooked. It has the look of a game with deeper gameplay. Looks like a game that would have combat and more. But what's actually there is just... eh. Can understand folks wanted to scrap it. Even though it would make the game feel off after all this time. But to add to that. The story of this story driven game is taking a while. So imagine the type of backburner actual gameplay is on.
FluffyBunnyCarrotStick
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I would take a VN version of this game as well. The 'gameplay' is meh. I've played this 'game' over and over years ago and it ain't fun. Some people might not agree and that's OK, but opinions are opinions. Learn to live with it.
Kisama33
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Nah, I just think some players only care for easy “fap material“ without any effort involved (like those that constantly asking for “full save please“) os simple prefer to enjoy a story that is easier to control and follow without interruptions in between.
But I like this game for what it is, and if the next 2 arcs will focus less in gameplay and more in storytelling I will certainly feel a little disappointed for sure.
The games I like the most and the ones that are not “Porn/hentai“ games with bits of RPG but instead RPGs with a bit of “Porn“ and that have bo fear about presenting the player with a real challenge for fearing that it might scare them off and make you truly feel rewarded when you succeed (the only problem of those is that I become so engaged with the gameplay that I don't care for the said “reward“ anymore).
I'm also on the "not just VN for once" side... I actually don't find the gameplay terrible as others; it's nothing extra-polished, but it provides some entertainment. It could be nice if it were balanced and tested all around though
mehGusta
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nah i like this game not being made with rpgmaker.
not that i have a problem with doing tedious bland combat, or walking a physical map being "surprised" by random encounters, or even memorizing where every damn same lame ass looking building is to continue quests or story.
what i dislike about the use of rpgmaker is that it is just a very cheap trick to stretch game time, making you think that the game last longer than it actually does.
sure VNs do a similiar bullshit, but rephrasing sentences over and over again and making the word count big. it's still far easier to put text speed to full, gloss over the text and have a rough understanding what's going on.
with rpgmaker you don't have that luxury.
even though you could do so much more with it. for example are there offense and defense skills and elements. you could do enemies that rely on a specific tactic you need to figure out to beat them. you could give the map a makeover and have lots of NPCs have their own schedule and in my eyes most important of all, only selected few enemies always at the same spot. fewer engagements and challenging than many and worthless.
but no you have to dodge the enemy sprite (if leveling is no issue, so the enemy is really just there to slow you down), or if you get unlucky wait for initiation animation to finish, then give every party member a meaningless action, wait for every character's turn and see their hit and attack animations, which so "immersively" is just the sprite shaking. so a 4 hour game turns into a 12 hour game, because you lose so so so many time by having to watch useless animations and walking distances, as quest send you from and to a place a 1000s times.
no i am fine with how complex SoC is.
ItsDaBoy22
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Whats the new Jez favor scene for this update?? All i see is the one from the previous update