Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.10] [Vénus Noire]
- Aug 4, 2020
- 1,628
- 8,796
How sad. Even Our Red String, also a 2D game, is mostly made by a single person which was released on 2020, 4 years after Seeds of Chaos, has more content and size than this. As a result, it has more traction and popularity and even better ratings. It's such a shame to see SoC team become complacent and never improve over the years while Eva Kiss continues to improve and developer her work and system.
I used to be so supportive with SoC, being a patron and buying the game on steam, even promoting the game to my friends and people in games lobbies. Now I regret to ever giving so much money and time to it.
I used to be so supportive with SoC, being a patron and buying the game on steam, even promoting the game to my friends and people in games lobbies. Now I regret to ever giving so much money and time to it.
Eva Kiss is goat man, a true goat. A good girl gone bad is one of my most favorite corruption game and I will try Red String soon, how is it btw? Better than previous one?
- May 8, 2017
- 796
- 2,949
Red String is great, Eva is definitely someone to look up to.
I don't think you can compare SoC with a game that has a much simpler focus. It is the very rare player who would enjoy every one of the scenes added in each SoC update. We have so many people who are into this project for just 2-3 pairings with many very vocal players who only care for Alexia (and I guess a few like me who only care for Rowan and the main story). There are people who hate the NTR or hate the goblins. And that is because the game tries to do so much and after so many years of development I don't see how you can cut a niche entirely when there is already so much content even for the least served niches.
So yeah when you don't have a main story, you don't need to do fantasy world building, you only do straight scenes, you don't do monsters it is just easier. The art is probably easier too, so much more you can sample.
So yeah when you don't have a main story, you don't need to do fantasy world building, you only do straight scenes, you don't do monsters it is just easier. The art is probably easier too, so much more you can sample.
Last edited:
whoasky
Newbie
- Apr 27, 2020
- 42
- 32
you can skip these at least? if you can skip isnt a problem. obligatory shit that turn ppl down, everyone is different. Take Desert Stalker as example, you can skip the fetish cenes that you dont like.
Sure but that means some months effectively have nothing for you if your desired pairings are narrow because of how broad they are with such pairings. And that is common for SoC.
JoeSte91
Member
- Apr 12, 2018
- 254
- 491
Having a main story doesn't matter much when it isn't progressed. At the minute, SoC is filling out fetish scenes for the most part, and while having branching paths is cool, there's an obvious limit to how much they can progress when the main story isn't developing.
One thing that ORS has done that SoC should do is to recognize when they need to reduce content to focus on streamlining updates. There was an early character, Ed, who was supposed to have more content with the FMC, but Eva ended up discontinuing that plot line, to focus on other, more interesting or important plots. There are obviously people who wanted to see that content, but bringing out meaningful updates was more important.
Personally I consider goblin and Astarte advancement as main story advancement.
I think you should probably check out ORS before you casually dismiss it as "much simpler without a main plot". You might realize just how silly you look making such claims.
(just the amount of interlocking variables and how they all affect the supposed non-existent main story alone is bordering on insane)
Are fey central to the plot? I still don't see it. They do not interact with Astarte and Rastedel in any way. I could see them becoming a major plot point in Act 2 I suppose but in Act 1 they feel like three more castle routes for milf, werewolf and catgirl (well foxgirl in this case) fantasies.
It's been a few years (5+) since I played this game and was wondering if it's worth my time.
For context, when I last played the gameplay loop of castle management, discovery and conquest was interesting but the RNG was not conducive to a fun gameplay experience. I get that RNG/skill check events are a thing in this kind of game but there weren't sufficient tools to mitigate negative outcomes/skill checks. Worse still, the tools you did get were contigent on resources aquired via exploration which was RNG. I hate save scuming to but it felt necessary back then just to get a good roll. Without stat customization you were at the mercy of RNG and I just couldn't take it when the content I wanted was so sparse.
Have they fixed that issue, or is this game still just RNG simulator with lots of NTR and Gay porn?
It don't want to openly dismiss this game without asking others because it did have potentially fun gameplay buried under RNG bullshit and it catered to some of my more niche 'interests'. That said, it had way too much of stuff I didn't like, so I'm on the fence about picking this game back up.
So, Worth my time? Or am I better off just looking up the art?
For context, when I last played the gameplay loop of castle management, discovery and conquest was interesting but the RNG was not conducive to a fun gameplay experience. I get that RNG/skill check events are a thing in this kind of game but there weren't sufficient tools to mitigate negative outcomes/skill checks. Worse still, the tools you did get were contigent on resources aquired via exploration which was RNG. I hate save scuming to but it felt necessary back then just to get a good roll. Without stat customization you were at the mercy of RNG and I just couldn't take it when the content I wanted was so sparse.
Have they fixed that issue, or is this game still just RNG simulator with lots of NTR and Gay porn?
It don't want to openly dismiss this game without asking others because it did have potentially fun gameplay buried under RNG bullshit and it catered to some of my more niche 'interests'. That said, it had way too much of stuff I didn't like, so I'm on the fence about picking this game back up.
So, Worth my time? Or am I better off just looking up the art?
RNG is still there BUT in my personal opinion is much better . you do get enough skill points to pass most check and even if you don't i dont bother to reload for failed checks in most situation(there are few exceptions it can be avoided if you know what you are doing). if i remember right in previous versions there was much much much more stats and you even got fewer skill points
now there is 8 stats and you get 5 skill points from level up and you can also buy single stat upgrades. same thing with management it actually dose things now and some very big events depend on it.
about NTR side depends. currently there are 2 main ntr plotlines (depending on your definition )but in reality they make very small part of overall scenes. same with gay scenes they are there but i would not say they represent majority of content.
generally its great game but its not for everyone some people will like it some wont you have to decide for yourself
I created this account just to occasionally download games, and never planned to ever write comments. But here I am, because the situation with the game has pushed me over the edge.
I've been following the development since around the time of COVID, and SoC really impressed me. I remember even creating a Patreon account and supporting the developer for about a year. But after a year of regular charges to my card, the game development went completely off track. The game stopped developing in terms of plot. Many secondary and tertiary characters appeared who have no gameplay impact, just porn for the sake of porn. And what's more, at some point you start getting confused about who you're in a relationship with and at what stage. Stability issues - the game crashed on random events before, and it still crashes now. They added a huge number of niche fetishes, which at some point started to cause irritation. And so on.
The SoC developers at some point realized that instead of releasing their game, it would be more profitable to engage in an eternal work-in-progress, and sit on a gold mine with endless money. I went to their Patreon page, and they get 9k+ euros per month, which is equivalent to almost 10k dollars. That's not including Steam sales. Not a bad monthly income for a game that hasn't even approached stage 0.9 beta in 9 years of development.
And this isn't just a problem with SoC. As soon as money starts flowing to a developer, the development speed significantly drops down. The same problem exists with Moochie and his PhotoHunt, which has been in development since the closure of his first project, BigBrother. He didn't want to finish the first game, and he doesn't intend to finish the second one either. It's most profitable to work for about two or three days a month, release an update, earn about 6-7k bucks from it, and spend the rest of the time doing whatever you want. Brilliantly devised. LonaRPG is the same story, but at least its development is already at stage 0.9.8, and I hope to see the game's release this year.
The entire adult game industry today boils down to a broke developer creating their game out of enthusiasm, releasing it in some digestible form, and then dropping the ball and digging gold from their donors until support finally dies out. Then they release another one, dig money from a new flock, and the cycle continues. And it's sad because we as players become unwitting hostages to the situation.
I´m disappointed about modern adult gaming (especially SoC) and see no future in it.
I've been following the development since around the time of COVID, and SoC really impressed me. I remember even creating a Patreon account and supporting the developer for about a year. But after a year of regular charges to my card, the game development went completely off track. The game stopped developing in terms of plot. Many secondary and tertiary characters appeared who have no gameplay impact, just porn for the sake of porn. And what's more, at some point you start getting confused about who you're in a relationship with and at what stage. Stability issues - the game crashed on random events before, and it still crashes now. They added a huge number of niche fetishes, which at some point started to cause irritation. And so on.
The SoC developers at some point realized that instead of releasing their game, it would be more profitable to engage in an eternal work-in-progress, and sit on a gold mine with endless money. I went to their Patreon page, and they get 9k+ euros per month, which is equivalent to almost 10k dollars. That's not including Steam sales. Not a bad monthly income for a game that hasn't even approached stage 0.9 beta in 9 years of development.
And this isn't just a problem with SoC. As soon as money starts flowing to a developer, the development speed significantly drops down. The same problem exists with Moochie and his PhotoHunt, which has been in development since the closure of his first project, BigBrother. He didn't want to finish the first game, and he doesn't intend to finish the second one either. It's most profitable to work for about two or three days a month, release an update, earn about 6-7k bucks from it, and spend the rest of the time doing whatever you want. Brilliantly devised. LonaRPG is the same story, but at least its development is already at stage 0.9.8, and I hope to see the game's release this year.
The entire adult game industry today boils down to a broke developer creating their game out of enthusiasm, releasing it in some digestible form, and then dropping the ball and digging gold from their donors until support finally dies out. Then they release another one, dig money from a new flock, and the cycle continues. And it's sad because we as players become unwitting hostages to the situation.
I´m disappointed about modern adult gaming (especially SoC) and see no future in it.
Last edited:
Kisama33
Active Member
- May 13, 2018
- 963
- 1,267
Are sure you are in the right thread? What's this SoD you are talking about? If you are in the right thread (maybe that's how people address the game and I don't know about it) I hope you understand that even if they are making 10k+ whatever money, that is still to be distributed to a bunch of people.
Finally I just want to address what is probably a misunderstanding that many people have and that appears to be you case (sorry if that's not the case), version 0.9 doesn't mean the game is 1 update away from the final release, it doesn't work like that, you can have v0.1cbeing followed by v1.0 (full release) or even v.0.3464 and still be X new updates away from a final release.
Yes, you're right, I simply made a typo when I wrote SoD instead of SoC (Seeds of Chaos). I've corrected my previous comment so that others won't be confused.
Regarding game versions, I know they can be named differently and reflect various stages of development. With SoC, there's a certain logic to the naming: v0.4.10 (current version), v0.4.09, v0.4.08... v0.4.01, v0.3.13, v0.3.12, etc. Therefore, I can assume that the game isn't even close to being completed.