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Rein

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I definitely regret not being able to simply write all of the goblin storyline. I devised the main framework and I always thought the end product would work great - 3 simultaneous storylines that contribute to the grand narrative of the location, allowing for plenty of room with goblin women and culminating in one of four distinct finales (of which Tue-San and Che-Lin, which are my favourite ones, are still not written).

But it's been taking so long all anyone is talking about is how it's taking so long. I know the end result will be good - everybody enjoyed the added Jezera and Andras sex scenes to Astarte, I still think the ability to see goblin and orc characters interact during the council is one of the highlights of the "game" element of the game. (I particularly enjoyed writing Ulcro talking with Zii-Zii.) - I just need to get there.
 

Nym85

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Dec 15, 2018
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I definitely regret not being able to simply write all of the goblin storyline. I devised the main framework and I always thought the end product would work great - 3 simultaneous storylines that contribute to the grand narrative of the location, allowing for plenty of room with goblin women and culminating in one of four distinct finales (of which Tue-San and Che-Lin, which are my favourite ones, are still not written).

But it's been taking so long all anyone is talking about is how it's taking so long. I know the end result will be good - everybody enjoyed the added Jezera and Andras sex scenes to Astarte, I still think the ability to see goblin and orc characters interact during the council is one of the highlights of the "game" element of the game. (I particularly enjoyed writing Ulcro talking with Zii-Zii.) - I just need to get there.
I mean Rein, you've been contributing to pretty much every update so it's clearly not on you? It's just sad that you guys grabbed more writers yet it still did not work out. Imo the way your team has expanded the project, you need 4 consistent writers to be getting anywhere. Again, I am sure there is a reason for it and it is probably far more frustrating on your side than it is on our side. I'll just hope that there was a lot of work done but just not ready to be delivered and the next one will be much better.

I'm just hoping for a path with Tue Row in power with Tue San out of the picture; I think Che-lin might get me there.

Also, goblin men deserve some love too.
 
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Rein

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Look you want to make anything slightly more complex than a linear storyline with cosmetic variations at some point in the fucking story you will get to a point where you have cascade of variables you have to handle. The segment where Rowan talks with his orc allies alone before the council is set to have like 20 variations: First depending on whether you recruited Ulcro, Batri or Tarish or if you rescued Delane or if you didn't complete orciad at all or if you didn't VISIT orciad at all, then for EACH if you go servant, overload, mitigation or sabotage. Ditto for the goblin segment. There was only one outcome for the goblin storylines, but the segment had lines for not completing the story or not visiting Hoz'holt at all.

I will only ever do it ONCE each act, because of how time consuming it is, but seeing Ulcro talking with Tue-Row? Fucking WORTH IT.

And everyone who says "Dude why do you bother, just move to act 2" - for every person who complains about that, there's another who complains "Damn, you get no choice at all, Rowan just keep on being a bitch ass sissy for the twins." - so it's like, I can't win. I can only do my best and know, that at some point in the future, it will be done.

And it will be worth it.
 

Nym85

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Can someone clarify, updates on Kemono show all new art cgs or just some part of it?
Whatever the uploader bothered to scrape which depends on their access level. I do think right now, everything is available for this game.
 

Angelcrush

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Rein As long as the end product turns out well, I'm happy with the wait. Don't want some butchered version.
Just knowing that it still gets worked on is nice. Is it taking a long ass time ? yes, but if the bugs and the wholes in the writing get extinguished, it's all going to be worth it in the end. I do love the game and you are absolutely right, people want the options to talk back or plan a cunning plan with Rowan. We want an epic tale to tell. hopefully Alexia gets to learn some sick spells at some point too. maybe that's coming in Act 2, who knows. they need something to even the gap to the twins.
 

kaspqz

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Look you want to make anything slightly more complex than a linear storyline with cosmetic variations at some point in the fucking story you will get to a point where you have cascade of variables you have to handle. The segment where Rowan talks with his orc allies alone before the council is set to have like 20 variations: First depending on whether you recruited Ulcro, Batri or Tarish or if you rescued Delane or if you didn't complete orciad at all or if you didn't VISIT orciad at all, then for EACH if you go servant, overload, mitigation or sabotage. Ditto for the goblin segment. There was only one outcome for the goblin storylines, but the segment had lines for not completing the story or not visiting Hoz'holt at all.

I will only ever do it ONCE each act, because of how time consuming it is, but seeing Ulcro talking with Tue-Row? Fucking WORTH IT.

And everyone who says "Dude why do you bother, just move to act 2" - for every person who complains about that, there's another who complains "Damn, you get no choice at all, Rowan just keep on being a bitch ass sissy for the twins." - so it's like, I can't win. I can only do my best and know, that at some point in the future, it will be done.

And it will be worth it.
I believe in you guys, keep cooking. Waiting is worth it and some ppl just need to stop treating this game as their main game.
 

Ankhibun

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The new version: 0.4.11 seems to be missing a few files, like Greyhide, Whitescar and such, I deleted my old version to see if it was an issue on my PC but even with a clean download they're still missing, so I'm guessing its a censored version? It's not exactly the scene's I want but just giving a heads up for those who want those scenes
 
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Oriandu

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The new version: 0.4.11 seems to be missing a few files, like Greyhide, Whitescar and such, I deleted my old version to see if it was an issue on my PC but even with a clean download they're still missing, so I'm guessing its a censored version? It's not exactly the scene's I want but just giving a heads up for those who want those scenes
If it's missing the furry scenes then it's the patreon version.
 
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Akabakka

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Look you want to make anything slightly more complex than a linear storyline with cosmetic variations at some point in the fucking story you will get to a point where you have cascade of variables you have to handle. The segment where Rowan talks with his orc allies alone before the council is set to have like 20 variations: First depending on whether you recruited Ulcro, Batri or Tarish or if you rescued Delane or if you didn't complete orciad at all or if you didn't VISIT orciad at all, then for EACH if you go servant, overload, mitigation or sabotage. Ditto for the goblin segment. There was only one outcome for the goblin storylines, but the segment had lines for not completing the story or not visiting Hoz'holt at all.

I will only ever do it ONCE each act, because of how time consuming it is, but seeing Ulcro talking with Tue-Row? Fucking WORTH IT.

And everyone who says "Dude why do you bother, just move to act 2" - for every person who complains about that, there's another who complains "Damn, you get no choice at all, Rowan just keep on being a bitch ass sissy for the twins." - so it's like, I can't win. I can only do my best and know, that at some point in the future, it will be done.

And it will be worth it.
The main issue for some of us - and i'll just talk about how it "feels", not the actual reality of things - is that it does feel like we're stuck in endless patreon filler sidequests. Of course, among others, the goblin content ain't filler, but it can feel that way, when additions happens over now years, and we still ain't moving from the point where we left the main story at.

It also does not help those feelings, when one of the things that could have alleviate them, having alternative routes with Rowan aren't really a thing, yet.

Of course i understand that the game is a gigantic task and the issues the team faced over the years, but still it's normal for people to be bummed and getting impatient
 

SauceMixer

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This tbh.

Maybe it's my inner fanfic writer talking but it IS satisfying when you do managed to turn a buncha random disjointed scenes/situations into a coherence and logical series of event. I love it when the big picture get revealed and you get game goes "yeah I remember what you did"

But yeah it's not gonna be for everyone, it won't help with getting things out faster that's for sure.

I'm squarely on the camp of "let em cook" but then I'm not a patreon supporter or anything. Hope you do managed to get all your variables right tho! Keep em up.
 
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