Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.11a Patreon] [Vénus Noire]

Ankhibun · Sunday at 3:57 PM

The new version: 0.4.11 seems to be missing a few files, like Greyhide, Whitescar and such, I deleted my old version to see if it was an issue on my PC but even with a clean download they're still missing, so I'm guessing its a censored version? It's not exactly the scene's I want but just giving a heads up for those who want those scenes

Oriandu · Sunday at 4:06 PM

Ankhibun said:
The new version: 0.4.11 seems to be missing a few files, like Greyhide, Whitescar and such, I deleted my old version to see if it was an issue on my PC but even with a clean download they're still missing, so I'm guessing its a censored version? It's not exactly the scene's I want but just giving a heads up for those who want those scenes

If it's missing the furry scenes then it's the patreon version.

Akabakka · Sunday at 4:30 PM

Rein said:
Look you want to make anything slightly more complex than a linear storyline with cosmetic variations at some point in the fucking story you will get to a point where you have cascade of variables you have to handle. The segment where Rowan talks with his orc allies alone before the council is set to have like 20 variations: First depending on whether you recruited Ulcro, Batri or Tarish or if you rescued Delane or if you didn't complete orciad at all or if you didn't VISIT orciad at all, then for EACH if you go servant, overload, mitigation or sabotage. Ditto for the goblin segment. There was only one outcome for the goblin storylines, but the segment had lines for not completing the story or not visiting Hoz'holt at all.

I will only ever do it ONCE each act, because of how time consuming it is, but seeing Ulcro talking with Tue-Row? Fucking WORTH IT.

And everyone who says "Dude why do you bother, just move to act 2" - for every person who complains about that, there's another who complains "Damn, you get no choice at all, Rowan just keep on being a bitch ass sissy for the twins." - so it's like, I can't win. I can only do my best and know, that at some point in the future, it will be done.

And it will be worth it.

The main issue for some of us - and i'll just talk about how it "feels", not the actual reality of things - is that it does feel like we're stuck in endless patreon filler sidequests. Of course, among others, the goblin content ain't filler, but it can feel that way, when additions happens over now years, and we still ain't moving from the point where we left the main story at.

It also does not help those feelings, when one of the things that could have alleviate them, having alternative routes with Rowan aren't really a thing, yet.

Of course i understand that the game is a gigantic task and the issues the team faced over the years, but still it's normal for people to be bummed and getting impatient

SauceMixer · Sunday at 4:32 PM

Rein said:
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This tbh.

Maybe it's my inner fanfic writer talking but it IS satisfying when you do managed to turn a buncha random disjointed scenes/situations into a coherence and logical series of event. I love it when the big picture get revealed and you get game goes "yeah I remember what you did"

But yeah it's not gonna be for everyone, it won't help with getting things out faster that's for sure.

I'm squarely on the camp of "let em cook" but then I'm not a patreon supporter or anything. Hope you do managed to get all your variables right tho! Keep em up.

Akabakka · Sunday at 4:39 PM

kaspqz said:
Waiting is worth it and some ppl just need to stop treating this game as their main game.

Like who ? Most people see an update notification, and just check where the game is at, and going. So far, bare a few trolls, I mostly see legitimate reactions over it, even when sometimes negative. After all, it has been a long time going. You can't really accuse people of being impatient here, as if they were whining over some update being a month late lol

But other than that, yes the game is worth the wait.

NeoEnformasyon · Sunday at 4:56 PM

Akabakka said:
Like who ? Most people see an update notification, and just check where the game is at, and going. So far, bare a few trolls, I mostly see legitimate reactions over it, even when sometimes negative. After all, it has been a long time going. You can't really accuse people of being impatient here, as if they were whining over some update being a month late lol

But other than that, yes the game is worth the wait.

After many years ; Not worth penny honestly ; only milking people thats all
( Just my option )

Versace217 · Sunday at 5:02 PM

If someone has access to the subscribestar version, can you please post here or submit to the request section?

The one on here (from kemono) is the Patreon version, hence the missing content.

Miriada · Sunday at 5:34 PM

Rein said:
Look you want to make anything slightly more complex than a linear storyline with cosmetic variations at some point in the fucking story you will get to a point where you have cascade of variables you have to handle. The segment where Rowan talks with his orc allies alone before the council is set to have like 20 variations: First depending on whether you recruited Ulcro, Batri or Tarish or if you rescued Delane or if you didn't complete orciad at all or if you didn't VISIT orciad at all, then for EACH if you go servant, overload, mitigation or sabotage. Ditto for the goblin segment. There was only one outcome for the goblin storylines, but the segment had lines for not completing the story or not visiting Hoz'holt at all.

I will only ever do it ONCE each act, because of how time consuming it is, but seeing Ulcro talking with Tue-Row? Fucking WORTH IT.

And everyone who says "Dude why do you bother, just move to act 2" - for every person who complains about that, there's another who complains "Damn, you get no choice at all, Rowan just keep on being a bitch ass sissy for the twins." - so it's like, I can't win. I can only do my best and know, that at some point in the future, it will be done.

And it will be worth it.

If you can meet with Side Quests and Railroading
And treat those two impostors just the same;

If you can talk with trolls and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Patreons—nor lose the common touch,

If neither bills nor development hell can hurt you,
If all updates count with you, but none too much;

Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And—which is more—Alexia will still cuck you, my Hero!

Rein · Sunday at 5:52 PM

Akabakka said:
The main issue for some of us - and i'll just talk about how it "feels", not the actual reality of things - is that it does feel like we're stuck in endless patreon filler sidequests. Of course, among others, the goblin content ain't filler, but it can feel that way, when additions happens over now years, and we still ain't moving from the point where we left the main story at.

It also does not help those feelings, when one of the things that could have alleviate them, having alternative routes with Rowan aren't really a thing, yet.

Valid points. I don't really have a good to way to alleviate them, so for the time being I accept I just have to power through the negativity.

calculateplus00 · Sunday at 6:02 PM

zandalari · Sunday at 6:10 PM

On account of this receiving an update I went to look for when I had last played the game. My version is 0.3.03. I think that means I last played it some years ago. Giving a rough look through the changelogs I see the goblin recruitment quest has been added and same for the sacking of Astarte? Probably? So that's it for main quest additions over the years, but you have a lot of misc events thrown in the mix too. That's nice, I suppose. And we're still in chapter 1 out of 3.

The game has had a constant churn of artists and writers over the years and I can promise it will only get worse as the time goes by and people move on to other things. This isn't getting finished at this rate.

But I don't want to seem like a troll so I'll leave a proposition: consider a DLC model. Pick a route, call it main route and ride it to the finish line. Relegate ALL the side shit to DLC. Endless Andr-ass scenes and fetishes and sub factions and alternate routes, EVERYTHING goes to DLC "to be added once the main story is done".

This has multiple benefits: 1) you will be able to show that the game can be finished; 2) players get something to look forward to a la "oh look the dragon DLC is here, now I can replay and do X in a different way"; 3) you minimize the damage from the inevitability that is losing more team members. If you lose some writers/artists, oh well, game's done, only some side content suffers, no big deal.

biuidru · Sunday at 6:29 PM

Compressed version?

Bob69 · Sunday at 6:42 PM

Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.11a Patreon] [Vénus Noire] - Compressed

Win/Linux [284 MB]