GrubaKielbasa

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I don't think anyone has a problem with that, and I'd say we all love it
and you'd be wrong

know that the whole community supports you and we are dying to keep reading the story that you guys write.
oh I'm afraid not

I won't deny I'm disppointed that we are already past half the yearly updates and none of the open plot threads seem to be even close to completion once again.
a seed of truth floats in the chaos of the storm. One can only hope it falls in fertile soil.
 

Teshay

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Is it just me or the real reason Jezera wanted to forcibly recruit Rowan because she wants to mold him into someone worthy of ruling alongside her?

To recap:
  1. When they talk about demon bastards, according to X'zaeratl for a demon lord and a human to have children they must genuinely love each other. She also comments that the previous half-breed she met before the Twins had a sad and lonely ending, as she never found an equal to share her ambition and stay by her side.
  2. As Arzyl has proven and taken advantage of, Jezera is quite possessive and jealous that Rowan will be taken from her. In this specific scene, Rowan himself also notes that Jezera had been teasing and denying him up until then, but in her eagerness to humiliate and rub in Arzyl's face that he belongs to her, she decided to abandon her strategy because she basically felt threatened of losing him.
  3. In the scene where Jezera teaches him how to dance and etiquette, in a rare moment where he catches her off guard he notices that she seems genuinely happy while they dance, only to revert back to her manipulative and seductive self when she notices him looking at her.
  4. In the Rastadel battle scene, if Rowan is submissive to her, Jezera will say that he is the only man worthy of her and being by her side, and during their sex she comments that for a demon lord to have children they need to love each other and tells him in other words to impregnate her. Assuming this wasn't a tease and she was sincere here, it would strongly imply that she was genuinely in love with him.
  5. Referring to the same Astarte scene where Rowan is not submissive, if he chooses to "praise" Jezera during their sex he tells her that he hates and loves her for pushing him beyond his limits, which surprises and distracts her enough for him to be able to win their sexual battle. I don't think it was a coincidence that Jezera was defeated essentially because Rowan declared his love for her when she wasn't expecting it.
My point is that while Jezera is certainly an evil seductress, dialogue and events in the plot lead me to believe that she actually desires to have someone to be by her side with whom to share her ambition, which is why I assume that behind all the teasing and manipulation she does with Rowan, at some point she chose him as the one who would be worthy of her, hence why she is so seductive and possessive of him.

In other words, Jezera ultimately, and in a delightfully ironic twist, wants to have a sort of healthy romantic relationship with Rowan.

1.I somewhat disagree. It depends on your choices, but she didn't initially choose you to be her lover or anything. She just knows your value, and you are an easy get because the kingdom does not protect you or watch over you.

2. Jezera sees you as a toy, a possession she wants to play with. She wants to own Rowan, the hero, and corrupt him. It's like a conqueror's fetish, she gets off knowing how much power she has over you.It's been shown time and time again that Jezera is pretty childish. She wants to be the top bitch and doesn't want to give away anything she has. Which is why she killed the dark elf because the elf tried to make them equals. She doesn't humiliate Arzyl because she loves your anything,you are her toy, and she doesn't want you taken from her. Arzyl is a old friend of her but any relationship with her requires you to be lower than her for it to work. She will not accept any equals, there may be a path where you shove that in her face and make her accept you as a equal but I wouldn't take it.

3.Never got that scene, so I'll take your word for it. I have played the 5. scene version. But I can kinda see your point about her, but I also don't really think she sees that in rowan. Only time will tell, but knowing me I'm going to end up killing her brother and enslaving her. Once they gave the choice. Jezera really gives the feeling that she won't respect or treat you as a equal as long as you serve her. You might become her favorite, but with a fickle lady like her that's not really a goal worth pursuing.
 
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danteppr

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1.I somewhat disagree. It depends on your choices, but she didn't initially choose you to be her lover or anything. She just knows your value, and you are an easy get because the kingdom does not protect you or watch over you.

2. Jezera sees you as a toy, a possession she wants to play with. She wants to own Rowan, the hero, and corrupt him. It's like a conqueror's fetish, she gets off knowing how much power she has over you.It's been shown time and time again that Jezera is pretty childish. She wants to be the top bitch and doesn't want to give away anything she has. Which is why she killed the dark elf because the elf tried to make them equals. She doesn't humiliate Arzyl because she loves your anything,you are her toy, and she doesn't want you taken from her. Arzyl is a old friend of her but any relationship with her requires you to be lower than her for it to work. She will not accept any equals, there may be a path where you shove that in her face and make her accept you as a equal but I wouldn't take it.

3.Never got that scene, so I'll take your word for it. I have played the 5. scene version. But I can kinda see your point about her, but I also don't really think she sees that in rowan. Only time will tell, but knowing me I'm going to end up killing her brother and enslaving her. Once they gave the choice.
1. I don't disagree that Jezera targeted Rowan to serve her because he's useful and unprotected, but given that the plot establishes that for a demon and a human to have children they need to love each other, something that Jezera herself mentions when asking a submissive Rowan to impregnate her in the Battle of Astarte, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that all the teasing and denial she kept playing was her way of molding him into someone worthy of being by her side, so that she wouldn't meet the same sad and lonely end that the half-breed X'zaeratl mentioned had in retrospect.

2. Funny, because I got the impression that Jezera was genuinely jealous here, hence why she felt the need to sexually humiliate Rowan and Arzyl when she (mistakenly) believed that he was going to be taken from her. Which is interesting because Jezera usually doesn't care about Rowan being married or having sex with whoever he wants, and she was up until then playing a game of teasing and denying him, but she impulsively abandoned her strategy because she was essentially afraid of losing him. Regardless of whether Jezera considered him her toy or not, I would say that her jealousy and fear of losing him were more than proven in this scene.

3. The dance scene I'm referring to is #272 in the current build.

Anyway, my point is that I believe Jezera doesn't want to have the same lonely end that the half-breed X'zaeratl mentioned had, and I think it will be revealed later that in addition to the reasons she gave for choosing Rowan to serve her, it was also because she thought he might be someone worthy of ruling, falling in love with, and having children with.
 

Gormius

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2 things,

First: Are the twins finally being owned by our protagonist yet or not? How far is our MC from basically bringing about their downfall?

Second: Android port? Anyone have a version of it?
 
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sorjs53

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I can't wait for the full cuck route where Rowan and Alexia are in love, but Alexia is pregnant with Andras' child and Rowan is happy that he doesn't have to give her a kid
 
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1. I don't disagree that Jezera targeted Rowan to serve her because he's useful and unprotected, but given that the plot establishes that for a demon and a human to have children they need to love each other, something that Jezera herself mentions when asking a submissive Rowan to impregnate her in the Battle of Astarte, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that all the teasing and denial she kept playing was her way of molding him into someone worthy of being by her side, so that she wouldn't meet the same sad and lonely end that the half-breed X'zaeratl mentioned had in retrospect.

2. Funny, because I got the impression that Jezera was genuinely jealous here, hence why she felt the need to sexually humiliate Rowan and Arzyl when she (mistakenly) believed that he was going to be taken from her. Which is interesting because Jezera usually doesn't care about Rowan being married or having sex with whoever he wants, and she was up until then playing a game of teasing and denying him, but she impulsively abandoned her strategy because she was essentially afraid of losing him. Regardless of whether Jezera considered him her toy or not, I would say that her jealousy and fear of losing him were more than proven in this scene.

3. The dance scene I'm referring to is #272 in the current build.

Anyway, my point is that I believe Jezera doesn't want to have the same lonely end that the half-breed X'zaeratl mentioned had, and I think it will be revealed later that in addition to the reasons she gave for choosing Rowan to serve her, it was also because she thought he might be someone worthy of ruling, falling in love with, and having children with.
I would just like to say that this possibility is not completely absurd because, of the two twins, Jezera is the one who has the most attachment to others, as we can see with Shaya or with the succubi (I like to think that this attachment is probably a consequence of having been abandoned by her father).
 
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Hey folks, if i'm just interested in the Alexia x Andras scenes, is there a guide on how to trigger their scenes in a single playthrough so the story makes sense?
 

UzuTsuki

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Im trying to use gamehub on android to play this game and this happen. Can someone explain what is this? And how to fix that.
 

preewds

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Old saves are not compatible with new build, as the devs have explained. It was supposed to be the next update that broke saves, but it ended up beeing this one instead.
 

Nym85

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Payment services are run by very conservative people (look up the Paypal mafia, they kind of rule the US right now). They force specific "Standards" on sites or they withdraw payment services which no site can afford. Thus patreon current bans content with animal-presenting genitalia or something like that. Which means sex with any fantasy creature that is some version of anthropomorphic animal counts as effectively bestiality for patreon.
 
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