Tydeusv

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Arioch's already said Ren'Py supports carrying over variables, and this will be done in the new acts (as well as some system to generate the story from questions if you didn't play it).
 

diebesgrab

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Well, since the Steam release is officially approved, I’m curious about what the impressions of the open perverts on the non-porn gaming forums I frequent will be.
 

Ragingrager

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So can you finally stop being a betamale in this game and kill the demon bother and feed him his own chopped off cock? Or is it still in perma enslaved betamale mode. Can you at least grow a bigger dick than this mary sue cuck villain yet and show him whose boss or anything yet?
 

Proto Persona

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So can you finally stop being a betamale in this game and kill the demon bother and feed him his own chopped off cock? Or is it still in perma enslaved betamale mode. Can you at least grow a bigger dick than this mary sue cuck villain yet and show him whose boss or anything yet?
My your user name is very apt. As to your questions, no, not yet, but maybe in one of the game's endings when it's finished. Only 2/3 of the game left! ^_^
 

Ragingrager

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My your user name is very apt. As to your questions, no, not yet, but maybe in one of the game's endings when it's finished. Only 2/3 of the game left! ^_^
Having to wait till the end of the game to not be a slave is pretty shitty I have to say. Well I'll pass then, being a beta to some dude who is endlessly trying to cuck you and is designed entirely for that purpose(lol my dicks bigger than yours) isn't something I would enjoy. I also doubt we would even ever be able to get proper revenge on this person with how much the creators seem to play him up from what I've read.
 

diebesgrab

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I mean, I don’t know what you’ve read, but it’s entirely possible to play the entire game as it exists so far without getting cucked by anyone, even if you don’t turn the NTR off (which is also possible at the beginning of the game). There are a couple of instances where the main character gets to one-up the demon in question, and it’s possible to side with his sister against him on several occasions.

If you’re looking for a game where you get to Kool-Aid Man your way through obstacles and instantly dominate all potential rivals, I’m afraid this isn’t it; the premise of the story is that you’re being forced to do the bidding of some people who are simply stronger than you and who have your wife hostage. The main character is relatively strong himself, but is presented as more of a crafty type compared to his captors. We’ll likely see paths to beginning to overcome them substantially sooner than the endings (I would guess those paths will at least start to become established in the next act), but it’ll still take the main character time to execute them, otherwise the story’s just plain over.

Again, if what you want is alpha male simulator 2020, look elsewhere, but if you’re getting cucked and fucked in this game, your choices are entirely to blame.
 

Ragingrager

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I mean, I don’t know what you’ve read, but it’s entirely possible to play the entire game as it exists so far without getting cucked by anyone, even if you don’t turn the NTR off (which is also possible at the beginning of the game). There are a couple of instances where the main character gets to one-up the demon in question, and it’s possible to side with his sister against him on several occasions.

If you’re looking for a game where you get to Kool-Aid Man your way through obstacles and instantly dominate all potential rivals, I’m afraid this isn’t it; the premise of the story is that you’re being forced to do the bidding of some people who are simply stronger than you and who have your wife hostage. The main character is relatively strong himself, but is presented as more of a crafty type compared to his captors. We’ll likely see paths to beginning to overcome them substantially sooner than the endings (I would guess those paths will at least start to become established in the next act), but it’ll still take the main character time to execute them, otherwise the story’s just plain over.

Again, if what you want is alpha male simulator 2020, look elsewhere, but if you’re getting cucked and fucked in this game, your choices are entirely to blame.
I'd expect a game where you can actually do something about your problems instead of spending a large part of the game being enslaved to someone who only exists for the authors cuckold fetish basically. If as you say that becomes an actually thing sooner then the ending then I might consider giving the game a chance, but considering how long this game has been around and it doesn't look much work has gone into that aspect of the game at all, I doubt it.
 

diebesgrab

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I'd expect a game where you can actually do something about your problems instead of spending a large part of the game being enslaved to someone who only exists for the authors cuckold fetish basically. If as you say that becomes an actually thing sooner then the ending then I might consider giving the game a chance, but considering how long this game has been around and it doesn't look much work has gone into that aspect of the game at all, I doubt it.
I once again have to stress that if you’re being cucked in this game, your own choices are all that’s led you there. SoC allows you to avoid all cuckoldry and nearly all possible displays of submission entirely, while also allowing you to take several sexual partners, both dominantly and on equal footing, with few significant consequences at this stage in the game. Yes, you’re working for two people against your will, but unless you allow them to do otherwise, they generally leave you to your own devices as long as you fulfill the main tasks they ask of you (which mostly take the form of “conquer this place” or “recruit that army”).

I’m not sure where you’re getting the impression that this is some kind of cuckold fantasy unless all you’re reading is the NTR tag and literally nothing else.
 

FayeValentine

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So does drokks ever have sex with Alexia or does he just stick the tip in and that's it. On my play through andras hurts him but does it end differently if I don't have andras favor?
 

manscout

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I once again have to stress that if you’re being cucked in this game, your own choices are all that’s led you there. SoC allows you to avoid all cuckoldry and nearly all possible displays of submission entirely, while also allowing you to take several sexual partners, both dominantly and on equal footing, with few significant consequences at this stage in the game. Yes, you’re working for two people against your will, but unless you allow them to do otherwise, they generally leave you to your own devices as long as you fulfill the main tasks they ask of you (which mostly take the form of “conquer this place” or “recruit that army”).

I’m not sure where you’re getting the impression that this is some kind of cuckold fantasy unless all you’re reading is the NTR tag and literally nothing else.
Eh, playing devil's advocate and it mostly only applies to the twins, but SoC sometimes suffers from "embrace the fetish or get nothing" syndrome. With almost every single side-quest or side-event involving the twins, you need to bail out ASAP or someone is getting fucked and either Rowan or Alexia are going to get corrupted (Alexia's magic book, anytime Jezera asks litterally anything, anytime Andras stumbles upon Alexia).

It gets rather tiresome to have to skip so much side-content the moment the twins get involved if you're going for a "good route" with minimal corruption and avoiding NTR. Would be nice if there were more opportunities to interact with the twins without it unavoidably leading to sex and corruption, or at least ways to finish some of the side-quests without needing to choose between abandoning them with no closure or letting something bad happen to Rowan or Alexia.
 

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Eh, playing devil's advocate and it mostly only applies to the twins, but SoC sometimes suffers from "embrace the fetish or get nothing" syndrome. With almost every single side-quest or side-event involving the twins, you need to bail out ASAP or someone is getting fucked and either Rowan or Alexia are going to get corrupted (Alexia's magic book, anytime Jezera asks litterally anything, anytime Andras stumbles upon Alexia).

It gets rather tiresome to have to skip so much side-content the moment the twins get involved if you're going for a "good route" with minimal corruption and avoiding NTR. Would be nice if there were more opportunities to interact with the twins without it unavoidably leading to sex and corruption, or at least ways to finish some of the side-quests without needing to choose between abandoning them with no closure or letting something bad happen to Rowan or Alexia.
This critique specifically pertains to "the good route"/Low Corruption right?
 
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manscout

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This critique specifically pertains to "the good route"/Low Corruption right?
Yes, and its a minor critique. I understand keeping some characters tied to their fetish niche (i.e the futa succubus witch), but the twins are main characters and, outside of main-story events, you can rarely interact with them directly without consequences. You can mostly only hear about them from other people and then have to wait for the next main-story event to get more first-hand development for them.

There are some exceptions, some cute minor side-events like Andras' interest on the clockmaker and trying to use one of the maids to spy on Jezera, there's also the events that are about a macho standoff against Andras, those still generally give different solutions that still feel like conclusions to a complete event (Submit and get humiliated, Refuse meekly or slyly and potentially get berated for it, and fight back with different degrees of success but generally earning begrudging respect). But in contrast you have most of the Alexia/twins events and the Jezera events, where it is pretty much "try to do anything and it will lead to someone getting fucked and corruption to be gained" or "immediatelly say no and the event ends briefly and curtly", which doesn't really feel like an alternative conclusion to the event as much as a "skip".

I don't want to get too deep into what to do about those because I don't really think it is something that needs to be addressed, mostly a minor annoyance for a low corruption/no NTR path, and also because many possible solutions will depend on the great gameplay overhaul/fixes that is still to come and other future developments (could use the favor system to let Rowan and Alexia avoid sex with the twins without avoiding their interactions, depending on how the corruption numbers get balanced I could just afford to be less of a purist because there will be enough opportunities to lose most of the corruption gained with other events, could be the NTR won't have any consequences or there will be options to set an open relationship with Alexia, etc).
 

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Okay so. I'll first take a second to note that this critique is a totally diffrent one from Chad Thundercock up there who is mad that Rowan can't become an evil emperor drowning in pussy without overthrowing the twins in Act 1 of the game.

You seem to be more saying that you don't like how many of the twins events seem to just end early if you're on a low corruption play through.

That's also a *much* more reasonable issue and one we can do something about. Yes, it should be possible to go to some of the twins corruption events in the game and add a little bit more meat to the "How about no corruption option". Adding some more content for Low Corruption Rowan/Alexia where they actively are conflict with the twins might help make a low corruption play through more engaging.

Only real downside is that it would take some devtime. Still, worth considering.
 

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Okay so. I'll first take a second to note that this critique is a totally diffrent one from Chad Thundercock up there who is mad that Rowan can't become an evil emperor drowning in pussy without overthrowing the twins in Act 1 of the game.

You seem to be more saying that you don't like how many of the twins events seem to just end early if you're on a low corruption play through.

That's also a *much* more reasonable issue and one we can do something about. Yes, it should be possible to go to some of the twins corruption events in the game and add a little bit more meat to the "How about no corruption option". Adding some more content for Low Corruption Rowan/Alexia where they actively are conflict with the twins might help make a low corruption play through more engaging.

Only real downside is that it would take some devtime. Still, worth considering.
I think you shouldn't even bother. This game is about corruption, chaos, being evil etc. More vanilla stuff will hurt your game. There are hundreds of vanilla games with loving couples. Also lots of harem games with 1 guy having all the women around him.
 

T51bwinterized

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I think you shouldn't even bother. This game is about corruption, chaos, being evil etc. More vanilla stuff will hurt your game. There are hundreds of vanilla games with loving couples. Also lots of harem games with 1 guy having all the women around him.
More *stuff to do* involving Andras and Jezera on Low Corruption does not have to mean more boring vanilla sex. It could mean more antagonistic interplay between Rowan and the Twins. More worldbuilding and conflict building.

Besides, it is actually useful to have a fully fleshed out, fully playable, game even if the player decides not to let themselves get corrupted. Partially because some players legitimately enjoy playing that way. Some people would enjoy vanilla sex with Rowan and Alexia too.

But, also because of Juxtaposition. The corruption content is itself stronger because the Player has an option of NOT playing that way. It makes the choices they make and the consequences of those choices more meaningful.
 

TheSexinati

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Hey, I'm a pure, low-corruption player here.

I'm so pure, Jezera gives me shit for not watching people get fucked by tentacles. That's how pure I am! :cool:

And Andras goes all like "Whoah, this guy still pure" because I don't want to see Batri fuckin' Delane and avert my eyes. Yeaaaaaah!

So, I wouldn't mind seeing some more low-corruption content down the track, if it is ever possible.

What do I want? More Andras and Jezera reactions to mah purity and goodness!

Jezera: "He still does it..."
Andras: "That averting his eyes thing again?"
Jezera: "But why..."
 
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