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When the skill update is implemented, it will almost certainly break saves. We will clearly state when we implement it, so no surprises.

At the end of the day, sometimes saves get broken. We avoid it insofar as we can, but if it comes down to a choice of improving the game or keeping save compatibility, game improvement comes first.

That said, if we do break saves with an update we go out of our way to load up as much save breaking stuff at once/delay smaller save breaking stuff that can wait until we're breaking saves anyway.
 

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By the time it gets finished, i'll be so old i don't even have a dick anymore.
If we look in to Patreon last status update


There is this vague road map and before this post i was hoping the Act 1 will be finished at the end of Summer but judging by the to do list it looks like optimistically it will be end of the year wich is not guaranteed.

I kind of feel like it pointless and useless complaining .... actually lamenting is the right word here.
Yeh lamenting. Game is too far in the development to make any major changes even if someone will be willing to change.
But i feel like ill say what i say.

1) I don't really think, making all this RPG elements was such a good idea considering how much effort, time and resources it takes to make.
I mean, i like Baldurs Gate and RPGs but considering limited resources its just way to much work.

So speaking about managing limited resources.
If we look at Steam page there are more negative reviews now and aside of few weirdos, who come to obvious Ntr game and was unhappy its Ntr game. All other negative reviews are people unhappy that game plot not moving forward and unfrequented updates.

Yes if you follow game development closely you actually see that game progressing steadily but for majority of people even patrons they want main plot progress and not minor tweaks, side stories polishing and programming updates.

2) Too many side stories. I was thinking, how little i care for example about Skordred and his story line and a few other's that just not engaging. But more importantly if it takes full bloody year to actually wrap all the side stories in Act 1 this mean its way too many of them for team to manage.

3) Another thing is there was this complain that some less refine games get more support then Seeds of Chaos. Like corruption of champions. Well all most all of them provides a lot of kinks. wich scratch that itch and attracts Patreons to this kind of games. Seeds of chaos has a strong corruption/ntr/swinging line but there are major kinks its not even tuckling. there was this poll a year or so ago what more kinks people want and they were not added yet.

Its important to implement most demanded kinks like pregnancy/body change, i'm yet to see one nice Milf (Patricia not counted as one!) or nice chubby/T H I C C girl (also dark elf girl in act 2 plz), to attract more people with other tastes.
 

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2) Too many side stories. I was thinking, how little i care for example about Skordred and his story line and a few other's that just not engaging. But more importantly if it takes full bloody year to actually wrap all the side stories in Act 1 this mean its way too many of them for team to manage.
This. The whole goblin clan, the fae, Rowan's elfin assistant, the brothel manager, the tavern manager, there's a dragon girl, Heleyna, there's a chatty sorceress, a pregnant girl in the orc camp, there's 900 characters to remember in the Rastadel arc, the librarian, the librarian's assistant which leads to a whole new arc, apparently (why couldn't the librarian have occupied that role?) a fish-man in the breeding pits, etc etc. I am not saying I dislike these specific characters but it is too much. Prune the tree.
 

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If we look in to Patreon last status update


There is this vague road map and before this post i was hoping the Act 1 will be finished at the end of Summer but judging by the to do list it looks like optimistically it will be end of the year wich is not guaranteed.

I kind of feel like it pointless and useless complaining .... actually lamenting is the right word here.
Yeh lamenting. Game is too far in the development to make any major changes even if someone will be willing to change.
But i feel like ill say what i say.

1) I don't really think, making all this RPG elements was such a good idea considering how much effort, time and resources it takes to make.
I mean, i like Baldurs Gate and RPGs but considering limited resources its just way to much work.

So speaking about managing limited resources.
If we look at Steam page there are more negative reviews now and aside of few weirdos, who come to obvious Ntr game and was unhappy its Ntr game. All other negative reviews are people unhappy that game plot not moving forward and unfrequented updates.

Yes if you follow game development closely you actually see that game progressing steadily but for majority of people even patrons they want main plot progress and not minor tweaks, side stories polishing and programming updates.

2) Too many side stories. I was thinking, how little i care for example about Skordred and his story line and a few other's that just not engaging. But more importantly if it takes full bloody year to actually wrap all the side stories in Act 1 this mean its way too many of them for team to manage.

3) Another thing is there was this complain that some less refine games get more support then Seeds of Chaos. Like corruption of champions. Well all most all of them provides a lot of kinks. wich scratch that itch and attracts Patreons to this kind of games. Seeds of chaos has a strong corruption/ntr/swinging line but there are major kinks its not even tuckling. there was this poll a year or so ago what more kinks people want and they were not added yet.

Its important to implement most demanded kinks like pregnancy/body change, i'm yet to see one nice Milf (Patricia not counted as one!) or nice chubby/T H I C C girl (also dark elf girl in act 2 plz), to attract more people with other tastes.
You are right about the devs being over-ambitious with the project. I'm also frustrated with how slow the overall progress is. But still, the game is great and delivers substantial amount of content with each update. Every 2 months we get a large amount of very high quality CGs and some new scenes. As a patron of this game for a long time, I'd be willing to pay each month just to get those new CGs. The very wide scope of the game (which is the chief factor that slows the development progress) at the same time makes it unique. Even if not every side story is super interesting, there are many great ones, e.g. both NTR paths (especially Jezera's), Shaya arc, Goblin arc, X'zaratl arc, Alexia x Mary romance, Greyhide arc etc. Even really minor side stories can be enjoyable, e.g. new Sil x Alexia events or Jak's appearances in the tavern. I don't think that the devs are spending too much time on side content and not focusing on the main story - the Rastedel arc has been worked on for extremely long time and people were complaining that they prefer to see more action with the NPCs instead. With Rastedel finished, we now have the main narrative of Arc I done and it's only desirable that the devs are now focusing on side characters and mechanics rework.
 
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Do the various Alexa and Liurial scenes require that Alexa be staying in the same room as Rowan? Cause they just don't seem to be triggering when it SEEMS like I have all the prerequisites from the google docs page.
 
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This. The whole goblin clan, the fae, Rowan's elfin assistant, the brothel manager, the tavern manager, there's a dragon girl, Heleyna, there's a chatty sorceress, a pregnant girl in the orc camp, there's 900 characters to remember in the Rastadel arc, the librarian, the librarian's assistant which leads to a whole new arc, apparently (why couldn't the librarian have occupied that role?) a fish-man in the breeding pits, etc etc. I am not saying I dislike these specific characters but it is too much. Prune the tree.
"God there is so many useless characters!!! They should remove the unnecessary ones (the ones i don't like) and keep the important ones (the ones i squeeze my cock to)"
 

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This. The whole goblin clan, the fae, Rowan's elfin assistant, the brothel manager, the tavern manager, there's a dragon girl, Heleyna, there's a chatty sorceress, a pregnant girl in the orc camp, there's 900 characters to remember in the Rastadel arc, the librarian, the librarian's assistant which leads to a whole new arc, apparently (why couldn't the librarian have occupied that role?) a fish-man in the breeding pits, etc etc. I am not saying I dislike these specific characters but it is too much. Prune the tree.
They are already here it makes no sense for all those characters to simply disapear into the thin air. Besides it is hardly a fact that those characters and all their stories are useless to the game, this is just your opinion and from the one you are quoting.
 

JonJones1979

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Hello folks! I'm pretty sure somewhere in the 1000's of comments somebody explained how not to die in this game. Thing is i've managed to figure out how not to die from the 1st mission/ capture castle/ capture Helanya. After a while @ week 50-60 the bastards kill me and can't seem to find out why. I'll take all the help i can get. Thx in advance.
 

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Hello folks! I'm pretty sure somewhere in the 1000's of comments somebody explained how not to die in this game. Thing is i've managed to figure out how not to die from the 1st mission/ capture castle/ capture Helanya. After a while @ week 50-60 the bastards kill me and can't seem to find out why. I'll take all the help i can get. Thx in advance.
Without spoiling a critical and complex story arc, you need to find the Orc Horde in the upper-left portion of the map near the second portal on the north side of the bridge. It looks like an orc village hex. You need to visit it and continue to revisit it over the course of many in-game weeks, and resolve the situation there however way you want. It's crucial that you do so and you need make time to do it! How you go about resolving the situation there will have massive repercussions and will have lasting effects to your game accordingly. It's an arc that the devs put a lot of effort into and it shows! Good luck and have fun! ;]
 
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"God there is so many useless characters!!! They should remove the unnecessary ones (the ones i don't like) and keep the important ones (the ones i squeeze my cock to)"
Nope. Reading comprehension is important. Read the last line of what I wrote. I like both the brothel and tavern manager a lot, for example. But what do they really add, vs. what trade offs do they require?
 
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They are already here it makes no sense for all those characters to simply disapear into the thin air. Besides it is hardly a fact that those characters and all their stories are useless to the game
Gaslighting. I never said it is a fact that those stories and characters are useless to the game. Again, how much energy is being put into characters that don't truly matter vs time spent better in other places? This is not some epic fantasy series, like Sanderson, Jordan, or Martin write. It's a fucking porn game.
 
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