LaVinotinto

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I have to be honest, this was my favorite game on the entire f95 site. But since the Patreon incident, the black screens, and the lack of progress in the main plot, it has become a total disappointment. Forgetting characters or giving stories to intrinsic characters, the accelerated corruption of Alexia, plot holes in defeating demons. The very ambition of the game in all these years has been its own drag.
 

Jynx_lucky_j

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Telling people to wait to check back on this game every 6+ months doesn't change the fact the game has been in development for years and is in no way close to being finished, with increasing scope creep and massive amounts of extra scenes that are diluting the game's development time. There are games made by one person that are much higher quality and have finished development in far less time.
This game has been getting milked for patreon money and it's sorry to see.
All I'm saying is that if you are disappointed with the game's progress, checking in constantly is just going to make you more upset. If you are already mad about the progress then instead of checking in every update and complaining about how it's not done yet, just don't do that. Either just give up on it and move on, or check less frequently. Why subject yourself to constant disappointment?
 

Devronman

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All I'm saying is that if you are disappointed with the game's progress, checking in constantly is just going to make you more upset. If you are already mad about the progress then instead of checking in every update and complaining about how it's not done yet, just don't do that. Either just give up on it and move on, or check less frequently. Why subject yourself to constant disappointment?
Because they want to feel important and like their opinion is fact and everyone has to hear it. Not a mindreader but it just seems like a massive waste of time unless they're deriving that kind of engagement from it.
 

FoxOfEmbers

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Does anyone know if ACT 2 will be a new game on Steam? Or will it be "just" updates?

And, if it will be a new game, is it possible to get a key by patreon them for x amount?
 
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belladore

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Interesting that I had to look up information on a piracy site (F95) to figure out what is the latest uncensored version of this game and where I can download it. Gog has old version, Itch has old version, and Patreon has censored version... and I wouldn't know any of this if I didn't access a pirate site to look up information.
 
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Devronman

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Does anyone know if ACT 2 will be a new game on Steam? Or will it be "just" updates?

And, if it will be a new game, is it possible to get a key by patreon them for x amount?
It is going to be a new game, I believe. They'll be laying the groundwork for new systems that are easier to develop for so they avoid any slowdown.
 
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GrubaKielbasa

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All I'm saying is that if you are disappointed with the game's progress, checking in constantly is just going to make you more upset. If you are already mad about the progress then instead of checking in every update and complaining about how it's not done yet, just don't do that. Either just give up on it and move on, or check less frequently. Why subject yourself to constant disappointment?
It's not about "disappointment with the progress" or any other perfumed words you and people like you spray to cover the stink of the developers poop. EIGHT YEARS. They haven't finished ONE THIRD of ONE game in EIGHT years. There's zero justification for that.
 

Jynx_lucky_j

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It's not about "disappointment with the progress" or any other perfumed words you and people like you spray to cover the stink of the developers poop. EIGHT YEARS. They haven't finished ONE THIRD of ONE game in EIGHT years. There's zero justification for that.
Putting aside the fact that each Part will be its own game, and that Part 1 is certainly more than 1/3 complete.

Why are you here?

What good does venting your frustration here do you or anyone else? Everyone is already aware of how long the game has been in development. You aren't telling anyone they don't know and you aren't changing any minds. The people who are fans aren't going to stop being fans just because you are point out what they already know. The devs don't have any reason to care about the opinion of some rando on a pirate site, the only people they have to care about are their patrons. And the haters already agree with you.

Why are you here complaining when you could be playing a game that is complete, or talking about a game that you enjoyed, or touching grass? The only thing that makes sense is if you feed off of the drama.
 

Lewdboyzzz

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Putting aside the fact that each Part will be its own game, and that Part 1 is certainly more than 1/3 complete.

Why are you here?

What good does venting your frustration here do you or anyone else? Everyone is already aware of how long the game has been in development. You aren't telling anyone they don't know and you aren't changing any minds. The people who are fans aren't going to stop being fans just because you are point out what they already know. The devs don't have any reason to care about the opinion of some rando on a pirate site, the only people they have to care about are their patrons. And the haters already agree with you.

Why are you here complaining when you could be playing a game that is complete, or talking about a game that you enjoyed, or touching grass? The only thing that makes sense is if you feed off of the drama.
Damn i always thought the game has ended ngl. It has enough content then most of the games that have been here
 

FoxOfEmbers

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Damn i always thought the game has ended ngl. It has enough content then most of the games that have been here
The game had a path that felt completed for a while now. They are, as far as I can tell, filling up the gaps and polishing some stuff. Which is a lot of work, but *feels* like there is little-to-no progress. I read the progress notes on Steam (where I own the game), which come quarterly and they always feel ..barebones. (not helped by adding stuff that I am not that interested in :D)

Only reason why I think the updates are still a lot of work is because I work in IT myself and I know that seemingly small updates can be a lot of work. ^^'

Not sure how the communication is on the Discord, but the Steampage does feel neglected.
 

ChubbyFatBoy

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Putting aside the fact that each Part will be its own game, and that Part 1 is certainly more than 1/3 complete.

Why are you here?

What good does venting your frustration here do you or anyone else? Everyone is already aware of how long the game has been in development. You aren't telling anyone they don't know and you aren't changing any minds. The people who are fans aren't going to stop being fans just because you are point out what they already know. The devs don't have any reason to care about the opinion of some rando on a pirate site, the only people they have to care about are their patrons. And the haters already agree with you.

Why are you here complaining when you could be playing a game that is complete, or talking about a game that you enjoyed, or touching grass? The only thing that makes sense is if you feed off of the drama.
I mean it is what it is when it comes to the game. But this can't be a legit question? What do you mean what's the good in venting? Exactly as it sounds.... to vent. And possibly find fellow venters to circle jerk about it. Comradery in hating if you will, as is the will of the internet. The same you could find in just about every single thread on this site. Like what side of the internet or this very website are you coming from? Some people can be well adjusted and move on. Some gotta drop undies, take a dump on the floor and roll around in it.

And we must bare witness to it all!
 

Oriandu

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Venting is good... if you don't vent the pressure things will inevitably pop. Venting is like taking a dump, gotta let some of that shit out or your bowels get impacted and you die.

And really, there's no denying that Seeds of Chaos has taken far too much time for too little content.
 

404NoNamegr

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I don't get why everyone's complaining when this is the rule for ALL patreon games (at least for wegs). They are meant to be milked by design because patreon allows it since they need their 10% tax for every patreon paying so they have absolutely no incentive to finish the game unless their patreons start unsubscribing. Either find something else or wait 10 years because unless you make their patreons to stop giving them money this is not gonna change any time soon.
Now in my defense for the makers I kinda understand why they do this since who's to say after finishing the game they will get any more money? Maybe some steam sales but that's it. They'll have to release a new game and that takes time and effort and who knows if it generates the same amount of money as the previous one. It's a big risk that in our current time anyone in their shoes wouldn't take especially if they have a family.
 

Fleep

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I don't get why everyone's complaining when this is the rule for ALL patreon games (at least for wegs). They are meant to be milked by design because patreon allows it since they need their 10% tax for every patreon paying so they have absolutely no incentive to finish the game unless their patreons start unsubscribing. Either find something else or wait 10 years because unless you make their patreons to stop giving them money this is not gonna change any time soon.
Now in my defense for the makers I kinda understand why they do this since who's to say after finishing the game they will get any more money? Maybe some steam sales but that's it. They'll have to release a new game and that takes time and effort and who knows if it generates the same amount of money as the previous one. It's a big risk that in our current time anyone in their shoes wouldn't take especially if they have a family.
The incentive is selling another game on Steam. Patreon is not going anywhere even if they start with ACT 2
 
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All I'm saying is that if you are disappointed with the game's progress, checking in constantly is just going to make you more upset. If you are already mad about the progress then instead of checking in every update and complaining about how it's not done yet, just don't do that. Either just give up on it and move on, or check less frequently. Why subject yourself to constant disappointment?
How about the people like me who check in every couple of years and still 0 progress has been made on the main story. I understand an infinite number of issue can delay a game's development progress, but come on now. There are excuses... and then there are EXCUSES. I'm usually one to side with the dev, but in this one case, I just can't. It's unacceptable no matter how you look at it. Defend the indefensible if you wish, but I ain't playing along.
 
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