Yes this is the battle of Astarte and this is the only option that is currently developed.
Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.13a] [Vénus Noire]
Chris20
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Sooo, you want rowan to eliminate all the characters that are too inclined to chaos and corruption and punish the nobility while you are at it. I can see the appeal to this, since it is what rowan, if he deny all the temptation and corruptions in the choices he make, would like to do lore wise, however that route is not for me, i want a benevolent despot or ¨Lawfull evil¨ Overlord take over with the help of chaos magic. Your path is lame but it is the most morally correct.I can't wait till the revenge arc starts. I'm already building my hit list for when Rowan fights back.
Orcs = Needs to be genocided. ALL of them.
Goblins = The ones that participated in the sack of Rastedel will have to be executed. Cla-Min and other peaceful merchant clans can be spared then utilized for the war effort against the Twins. Hopefully a temporary alliance with the goblin princess or Tue-Row can be arranged as well.
Cubi = Needs a culling for good measure. I don't think the succubi will make good allies as they are prone to lying and are unpredictable. Xzaratl seems okay but her ties with Jezera makes sparing her dubious. Her being obsessed with Rowan + Alexia relationship is also sus af. Won't be surprised if she has something to do with the couple having problems conceiving.
Fae = Whitescar/Heartsong faction will probably be aligned with the human cause. Arzyl/Midnight court has to be wiped out and luckily, the former Fae faction is already inclined to do so.
Human nobility = I'm itching to take out Werden but somehow I feel like he knows more than he is letting on. Will need to ally with the surviving nobility for now but many of them will have to be replaced/imprisoned after the war. Need to leverage Juliet, Helayna, Crevette, and Delane (if we can somehow reverse her transformation into a BDSM hell doll) to rally the nobility and form a united human front against the demons. Definitely need Marianne and the Protheans as well but they will probably turn on us once the demonic threat is eliminated to retain their control on Rosaria. God I'm still so pissed for what the Twins and that chaos prophet did to Delane
Other characters = Clionha, Greyhide, Cla-Min, Nasim, Liurial, and Draith can probably be used against the Twins due to poor treatment and/or their personal motivations. The rest of the secondary Bloodmeen characters I'm not so sure about. Especially Shay/her spies loyalty to Jezera and Skordred due to Bloodmeen itself being his prized creation. Ameraine is obviously dangerous and is not trustworthy given her incessant scheming and shapeshifting ability so it won't be surprising if she tries to usurp power from the Twins which can maybe turn her into a wildcard against them.
Twins = The ultimate goal. They HAVE to be humiliated first before execution. Making sure it's as PAINFUL AND SLOW as possible!!
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I can't wait till the revenge arc starts. I'm already building my hit list for when Rowan fights back.
Orcs = Needs to be genocided. ALL of them.
Goblins = The ones that participated in the sack of Rastedel will have to be executed. Cla-Min and other peaceful merchant clans can be spared then utilized for the war effort against the Twins. Hopefully a temporary alliance with the goblin princess or Tue-Row can be arranged as well.
Cubi = Needs a culling for good measure. I don't think the succubi will make good allies as they are prone to lying and are unpredictable. Xzaratl seems okay but her ties with Jezera makes sparing her dubious. Her being obsessed with Rowan + Alexia relationship is also sus af. Won't be surprised if she has something to do with the couple having problems conceiving.
Fae = Whitescar/Heartsong faction will probably be aligned with the human cause. Arzyl/Midnight court has to be wiped out and luckily, the former Fae faction is already inclined to do so.
Human nobility = I'm itching to take out Werden but somehow I feel like he knows more than he is letting on. Will need to ally with the surviving nobility for now but many of them will have to be replaced/imprisoned after the war. Need to leverage Juliet, Helayna, Crevette, and Delane (if we can somehow reverse her transformation into a BDSM hell doll) to rally the nobility and form a united human front against the demons. Definitely need Marianne and the Protheans as well but they will probably turn on us once the demonic threat is eliminated to retain their control on Rosaria. God I'm still so pissed for what the Twins and that chaos prophet did to Delane
Other characters = Clionha, Greyhide, Cla-Min, Nasim, Liurial, and Draith can probably be used against the Twins due to poor treatment and/or their personal motivations. The rest of the secondary Bloodmeen characters I'm not so sure about. Especially Shay/her spies loyalty to Jezera and Skordred due to Bloodmeen itself being his prized creation. Ameraine is obviously dangerous and is not trustworthy given her incessant scheming and shapeshifting ability so it won't be surprising if she tries to usurp power from the Twins which can maybe turn her into a wildcard against them.
Twins = The ultimate goal. They HAVE to be humiliated first before execution. Making sure it's as PAINFUL AND SLOW as possible!!
Specially the twins part, torture them for a goooood while
Crazy how many directions the story can take... because those are just SOME routes... and I feel there are so many more possible directions.
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More reasons to understand how this game is like 10 years old
I like that but I also understand it may be too much work for future Arcs. I wouldn't be mad if some of those branches get merged keeping slight text variances to make it feel natural.
This thread will be 9 years old in August which is basically the same age as the game, back when that maximum playable time was six in-game weeks.
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I think it would be better to develop just 3 paths, and in each of these paths there can be small variations depending of your choices, for example, the image that i had share before show 3 choices, wich are petty much 3 paths that will follow through ACT II, if for example, i take the ¨Take control¨ path, i can decide how much amoral my character is or how much chaos and destruction i am willing to inflict.
But that IS what they are doing. It is just that the small variations have a ton of side content. They are still relatively small variations to the main story quests.
Chris20
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It is either that or:
1. Make the choices more or less irrelevant since all paths will be merged by the end.
2. Make an impossible attemp to create an complex ¨butterfly effect¨ that will make the game almost impossible to finish.
For me, this is the middle ground.
Honestly I think what they've done has worked fine. They just had two issues imo
a) they have overdeveloped the side character paths, likely because they want broad appeal and each fulfills a niche. Imo most of them have enough story to go into the second act, particularly some like the elf secretary, the goblin milf, the Andras NTR path or the drow boytoy.
b) they just messed up the gameplay element.
The skill system is overcomplicated for no payoff (I've said what I'd done to still keep it, have Rowan choose to have a major specialization and a minor one in Combat/Social interactions/Exploration that would give you replayability. No leveling. You pretty much autowin events that you are specialized in and have a great chance at the one you have a minor with).
The random elements have no payoff. They are limiting when it comes to ruler events, possibly leapfrogging over events you'd want to see if you advance non-random events too fast. They also keep you from seeing the events you WANT to see by not letting you focus enough on the character paths you are pursueing. Similarly the map random events have minimal payoff. Imo you could merge the map hexes and reduce the size of the map by a significant margin and it would still work. And fewer places should be random.
Another issue that imo is more minor; the timeline. You are fucking around for a year and a half until someone realizes you have infilitrated and taken down a major keep, taken control of the entire countryside and recruited a substantial army. I get Rastedel is dysfunctional but no one else has spies in the area? You need all the extra time ofc because a) the map has too many events, b) you get only one random event at the castle at a time.
My solution to that would be to take about two thirds of the ruler events and just attach them to the castle map as events you can activate. Then have everything happen in less than a year. Raeve should fall by week 10. Rastedel should fall by week 40-50.
Base building imo actually works, it is the one choice I enjoy making each week. Though the fact that you have 70+ weeks means that by Astarte battle, your choices don't really matter since you can have everything important unlocked.
time scales works for medieval fantasy setting. plus rossaira is having internal power struggle so reactions are much slower.
as for fact you are building the army how would spy's know? all of the orcs you recruit are already there and even you recruit them your headquarters is in bloodomen. twins are working with fucking teleportation advantage normal rules don't apply to them i dont think twins army is really assembled before astarte and even if it is bulk of them are in bloodomen which is quite literally unimageable for rosarians . also for standard how rowan dose should be taken 1 playthroughs not second or 3 one where you already know what you must do and how.
Before you even take Raeve keep down you will likely have sacked 2-3 villages and at least one abbey. No Solansian missionary went by visiting and found nothing? No tax collector from Rastedel arrived at a village only to find ruins or orcs? Rastedel has no scouts keeping track of orc and goblin movements in their territory?
goblin invasion is happening at the same time. villages are also being sacked in south thats where bulk of wardens forces are at the start of game. same is happening before arrival of rowan. Orc war band are already there attacks on villages is still happening before rowan takes command.
Rosaria is kind of shit and its duke going insane and not giving shit about anything dose not help it
Some of these scenes are missing after unlocking the Scenes. Can anyone know how to fix the issue?
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and duke forcing citizens to sell their grains when famine come because of jezerras portal using
Rowan basically becoming an incarnation of a dark god would be kind of cool to see. The twins are trying to corrupt Rowan and it getting out of hand very quickly as he becomes an evil deity far more powerful than they are would be interesting to see.
Use that to conquer everything and make a huge harem out of bloodmeen.
i dont know about becoming god but killing twins and taking there place is most likely in cards