Ralpvolvos

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damn, 9 years and act 1 still havent finish....

the game is good and one of my favorite, also the 2d art are incredible if not one of the best.

let it marinate for a year because IIRC, last year the dev said they aim to finish act1 in late 2024....

but look like it suffer from too much branching, make me pessimistic that we will ever get to see the end.
 
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damn, 9 years and act 1 still havent finish....

the game is good and one of my favorite, also the 2d art are incredible if not one of the best.

let it marinate for a year because IIRC, last year the dev said they aim to finish act1 in late 2024....

but look like it suffer from too much branching, make me pessimistic that we will ever get to see the end.
Good honesty this game is like baldur's gate 3 with more sex.
 

sorjs53

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Good honesty this game is like baldur's gate 3 with more sex.
This is nowhere near close to BG3 aside from the fantasy setting. Larian at least polished the game and focused on getting it out. The devs have been working on this for almost a decade, rebuilt the mechanics, and still have not completed the first act? I've been saying they literally could've finished the game, polished it afterwards, and then go back to add more content for replayability. ATP there's no reason to run through the game in its entirety because it's unfinished and the current ending is so barebones
 

cmod44804

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Gotta say, after finishing the game (as it is now) with a "good guy biding his time" Rowan i have close to zero interest to continue playing. Mainly because i have accomplished NOTHING, zero, zip, zilch, nada; absolutely nothing was gained from selling my honor, my humanity. I haven't subverted the Twins in any meaningful way, I have zero plans for escape, I have zero allies who'd join me vs twins, I have zero information or plans to do anything at all. My "good guy in bad situatiuon" Rowan slaughtered, enslaved and raped countless innocent peasants and has nothing to show for it. For this kind of playthrough this is basically a misery simulator in which the only Good End is refusing to serve and dying in the cell before the game starts.
 

Nym85

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Gotta say, after finishing the game (as it is now) with a "good guy biding his time" Rowan i have close to zero interest to continue playing. Mainly because i have accomplished NOTHING, zero, zip, zilch, nada; absolutely nothing was gained from selling my honor, my humanity. I haven't subverted the Twins in any meaningful way, I have zero plans for escape, I have zero allies who'd join me vs twins, I have zero information or plans to do anything at all. My "good guy in bad situatiuon" Rowan slaughtered, enslaved and raped countless innocent peasants and has nothing to show for it. For this kind of playthrough this is basically a misery simulator in which the only Good End is refusing to serve and dying in the cell before the game starts.
I think right now the hope is that there will be some kind of bad (good?) end in the sabotage route at Astarte.
 

maroder

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Gotta say, after finishing the game (as it is now) with a "good guy biding his time" Rowan i have close to zero interest to continue playing. Mainly because i have accomplished NOTHING, zero, zip, zilch, nada; absolutely nothing was gained from selling my honor, my humanity. I haven't subverted the Twins in any meaningful way, I have zero plans for escape, I have zero allies who'd join me vs twins, I have zero information or plans to do anything at all. My "good guy in bad situatiuon" Rowan slaughtered, enslaved and raped countless innocent peasants and has nothing to show for it. For this kind of playthrough this is basically a misery simulator in which the only Good End is refusing to serve and dying in the cell before the game starts.
you can save warden or get other ally in rastadel and if you chose patricia you will bascily control it :BootyTime:
get orcs leader indebted to you same with goblins so that 2 army's there
get fey support and even proposal that maybe deposing twins wont be that bad
get minotaur on your side
get liruel and helyana
get delanaon your side, save Saintes's(one of hero's )
get chilona be on your side. she can literally can say that she dose not give fuck if you want to kill twins
get succubus spy and one of demons on your side
get favour of Karnas cult
get favour with zanim
get shagoth or wood spirit in your retinue(your personal troops ) plus get another orc chieftain in your retinue gorza blood axe.

but hey not all of us can succeed in things :BootyTime:
also Astarte war where you take control and try to sabotage twins is currently in works
 

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Gotta say, after finishing the game (as it is now) with a "good guy biding his time" Rowan i have close to zero interest to continue playing. Mainly because i have accomplished NOTHING, zero, zip, zilch, nada; absolutely nothing was gained from selling my honor, my humanity. I haven't subverted the Twins in any meaningful way, I have zero plans for escape, I have zero allies who'd join me vs twins, I have zero information or plans to do anything at all. My "good guy in bad situatiuon" Rowan slaughtered, enslaved and raped countless innocent peasants and has nothing to show for it. For this kind of playthrough this is basically a misery simulator in which the only Good End is refusing to serve and dying in the cell before the game starts.
That is because the only ending available for now is being their servant, the path where you take control and authority over the twins or the one where you sabotage their effort are still in development. If you want a ¨happy ending¨ where you can save Rowan humanity, you will have to wait.
 
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That is because the only ending available for now is being their servant, the path where you take control and authority over the twins or the one where you sabotage their effort are still in development. If you want a ¨happy ending¨ where you can save Rowan humanity, you will have to wait.
and their is another path named mitigation where u give twin victory but as well as minimizing damage to rosarian forces in previous ver mitigation option is not their so i dont know if they are going to work on that
 
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Nym85

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That is because the only ending available for now is being their servant, the path where you take control and authority over the twins or the one where you sabotage their effort are still in development. If you want a ¨happy ending¨ where you can save Rowan humanity, you will have to wait.
See, I don't think the Overlord ending to Astarte amounts to anything because we've been told that there will be very little changes to Rastedel. So the twins will still sack the city and completely ignore you.
 
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maroder

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See, I don't think the Overlord ending to Astarte amounts to anything because we've been told that there will be very little changes to Rastedel. So the twins will still sack the city and completely ignore you.
no there will be one change to rastadel. and thats IF orcs respect you thay ill obey your order about not sacking city over twins. devs also said that it will have interesting consequnces
 

cmod44804

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you can save warden or get other ally in rastadel and if you chose patricia you will bascily control it :BootyTime:
get orcs leader indebted to you same with goblins so that 2 army's there
get fey support and even proposal that maybe deposing twins wont be that bad
get minotaur on your side
get liruel and helyana
get delanaon your side, save Saintes's(one of hero's )
get chilona be on your side. she can literally can say that she dose not give fuck if you want to kill twins
get succubus spy and one of demons on your side
get favour of Karnas cult
get favour with zanim
get shagoth or wood spirit in your retinue(your personal troops ) plus get another orc chieftain in your retinue gorza blood axe.

but hey not all of us can succeed in things :BootyTime:
also Astarte war where you take control and try to sabotage twins is currently in works
Ah yes, the orcs will join human armies versus twins because i helped them get some one noble pussy; after that they will all live in harmony;

the evil lich fey who use this conflict as a way to get more power and destroy whitescar's faction will just let humans live in peace after deposing the twins, they will definietly not try to enslave everyone and use them as fuel for immortality;

Karnas cult will stay on your side and help reestablish peace and order in the kingdom.

Of all the npcs you help and befriend and even get in your debt.. maybe one or two have any connection and slight possibility to be able to gather armies and coordinate against the twins? or do you actually think Greyhide is gonna get minotaurs on our side? Liurial will get elf armies? Not to mention Rowan's "retinue" means nothing against not only demon's armies but the twins themselves - they can be killed without much effort at any time.

Many other npcs (like Clionha) act out of pure self interest and the only way they would join you vs twins is if you already had the upper hand, or at least a chance at upper hand - and since throughout act 1 you do not get a single whiff of being able to oppose them, there is no reason to count them as allies and (imho) little reason to count them as even potential allies.

All those personal connections while good to have - with this version of the game - mean kind of nothing if you want to destroy demons & co and reestablish peace among human lands.
 

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All those personal connections while good to have - with this version of the game - mean kind of nothing if you want to destroy demons & co and reestablish peace among human lands.
That's not really this game though? It's not the premise of the game. Nowhere in the marketing material of the game is it really seen as an option. Maybe you will get to collapse the twins' forces late in the game for that.

And as has been said before and should be said again; if you are really a good person, you don't leave the prison. At best, you survive to meet a bad end in the early weeks because you never move against Raeve.
 
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maroder

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Ah yes, the orcs will join human armies versus twins because i helped them get some one noble pussy; after that they will all live in harmony;

the evil lich fey who use this conflict as a way to get more power and destroy whitescar's faction will just let humans live in peace after deposing the twins, they will definietly not try to enslave everyone and use them as fuel for immortality;

Karnas cult will stay on your side and help reestablish peace and order in the kingdom.

Of all the npcs you help and befriend and even get in your debt.. maybe one or two have any connection and slight possibility to be able to gather armies and coordinate against the twins? or do you actually think Greyhide is gonna get minotaurs on our side? Liurial will get elf armies? Not to mention Rowan's "retinue" means nothing against not only demon's armies but the twins themselves - they can be killed without much effort at any time.

Many other npcs (like Clionha) act out of pure self interest and the only way they would join you vs twins is if you already had the upper hand, or at least a chance at upper hand - and since throughout act 1 you do not get a single whiff of being able to oppose them, there is no reason to count them as allies and (imho) little reason to count them as even potential allies.

All those personal connections while good to have - with this version of the game - mean kind of nothing if you want to destroy demons & co and reestablish peace among human lands.
There are 3 main path in game.
servant where you serve twins.
conqueror where you take power from twins and you personally rule. all of above examples help in that case
sabotage. which wont end well for you but even then you have some choices.
Best path for sabotage currently is Wardern route. you manage to evacuate most of knights and nobles from rastadel and even save high prises. Plus leave orcs in there weakest position
we dont have goblins outcomes in game yet but i think che lin path will also be very good on that one as she dose not really want expansion and most likely could be convinced to go against twins and not start war against humans. maybe even ally with them i have not seen all events so i may be wrong but these is my gut feeling.
liruel, greyhide helyana and white scar all are good ally that wont have any problem on these path
forest fey will also be good ally as she dose not give shit about twins and there ambitions same with shagoth
plus few more small things in random encounters

BUT you are right main thing if you want to have army's to oppose twins as humans IS wardens route. its kind of hard to get route i hope you know about it
and new upcoming sabotage Astarte battle
 
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