Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.13a] [Vénus Noire]

[Madfire8]

I've read on steam forums that the Upload would be for tomorrow.

 

[Erectosaurus]

Haven't played in a million years but can someone remind if Rowan HAS to fuck Heleyna or whatever her name is for Alexia to get onto the Andras route? Because it seems that without doing that her favorability with Rowan never dips low enough for all the Andras events play.

 

[Madfire8]

it will help but I don"t think it is all necesary. Alexia will also be more exposed to Andras in some jobs like Barmaid, nursery or Blacksmith.

 

[ArevaloCristhian]

Just a very old game over guide.

Just have saves at the start of each quest. Most of them are fairly straightforward and predictable. For specifics, ask.
Generally, Rowan and Alexia have a corruption score, so the nastier stuff including NTR won't trigger if they are decent and stay lovely to each other.
There are multiple ways you can go about Hellanya once the fort is taken. If she is ignored, she escapes sooner or later.
The orc camp and goblin town have four outcomes each. Though Goblin Town isn't finished.
The capital has three ways to conquer it and the ending varies, but that isn't completed as well.

Okay, it's been a while since I played this game (and I couldn't finish it, and I still haven't downloaded this version), but I remember that at the beginning you could choose the NTR route, having Alexia sleep with Andras. But when I tried to follow that route, it was like it hadn't happened because she felt inhibited around him. That's one thing. I also remember that I couldn't get past the orc camp event, I think, where I had to buy a gift for a leader, if I remember correctly, to convince her or something, but I didn't know how to do it, or when I bought the gift I couldn't give it to her. It was something like that. I just know I couldn't get past that event.

 

[Gicoo]

Okay, it's been a while since I played this game (and I couldn't finish it, and I still haven't downloaded this version), but I remember that at the beginning you could choose the NTR route, having Alexia sleep with Andras. But when I tried to follow that route, it was like it hadn't happened because she felt inhibited around him. That's one thing. I also remember that I couldn't get past the orc camp event, I think, where I had to buy a gift for a leader, if I remember correctly, to convince her or something, but I didn't know how to do it, or when I bought the gift I couldn't give it to her. It was something like that. I just know I couldn't get past that event.

You can trigger the NTR whenever Alexia gets enough corruption. Then an event occurs in which she is molested and can chose to seek out Andras instead of Rowan.

Orc camp: If you reload before going to the leader, Rowan doesn't need an item if he passes the skill check. Else, you can buy the item to appease the leader from the Goblin Girl in the shop. That quests requires several high skill rolls, so better save and reload. Since some of them are 7, better have Rowan at 1 at every skill instead of 0, else he may not reach them even when getting a 6.

 

[sorjs53]

Haven't played in a million years but can someone remind if Rowan HAS to fuck Heleyna or whatever her name is for Alexia to get onto the Andras route? Because it seems that without doing that her favorability with Rowan never dips low enough for all the Andras events play.

I've only gone the route of RowanxHeleyna once, but you do not need to do that for AndrasxAlexia. You really just need to choose every option available to lower affection and raise her corruption whenever possible. Before this point, it's pretty much impossible to get her affection below 60% and same for getting her corruption above 50%. I'm just estimating these numbers as I haven't played in a long time, but you get the point- it's pretty much impossible to make her hate you before this, but you don't need to trigger Heleyna living with Rowan to trigger the Andras NTR events. The game itself makes it very hard to get Alexia's opinion super low without cheating, and you need her low opinion for Alexia to give into Andras' advances. I don't like that you pretty much have to make Alexia hate you for the NTR route, but there is no sharing route for Alexia and Andras which I would've preferred ngl.

 

[Oriandu]

Haven't played in a million years but can someone remind if Rowan HAS to fuck Heleyna or whatever her name is for Alexia to get onto the Andras route? Because it seems that without doing that her favorability with Rowan never dips low enough for all the Andras events play.

Easiest route is to rat on Alexia when she helps Heleyna escape. So, after a certain point Heleyna will come to Rowan for help escaping and you turn her down, then a while later she'll escape anyways, at which point you have to investigate and if you take the right paths it'll come out that Alexia helped her escape. When confronted about her escape you can basically pretend not to know, volunteer to punish Alexia yourself, or let Andras do it then she'll lose something like 20 relationship points with Rowan and if she's fairly corrupt that'll usually be more than enough to get her to start down the NTR paths.

 

[ZykOs]

Haven't played in a million years but can someone remind if Rowan HAS to fuck Heleyna or whatever her name is for Alexia to get onto the Andras route? Because it seems that without doing that her favorability with Rowan never dips low enough for all the Andras events play.

is not necesary

 

[ZykOs]

Haven't played in a million years but can someone remind if Rowan HAS to fuck Heleyna or whatever her name is for Alexia to get onto the Andras route? Because it seems that without doing that her favorability with Rowan never dips low enough for all the Andras events play.

You just need to gradually accept Adras for the NTR route

 

[nejfan]

What's going on with everyone nowadays? Why is there such a strong desire for NTR scenes involving Andras and Alexia, especially when Andra's behavior toward the player-controlled protagonist makes you want to execute him through the screen?

People who get turned on by it tend to be late stage porn addicted simps with an inferiority complex, they pay the most too.

It just so happens there's a disproportionate % of those online on different sites for porn content because normal, well adjusted people tend to have shit to do. You ever wonder why every other protagonist of these porn games are beyond pathetic? It's to be a self insert to the permavirgins.

 

[Thefanboyieee]

Anyone know if the walkthrough is updated for v0.4.13?

 

[rockerdark665]

+1

 

[Ashkia]

I've read on steam forums that the Upload would be for tomorrow.

what even is the point of uploading the last version of the game to the steam ? When there will be a new version at the end of the month just skip this version

 

[Madfire8]

Because I am lazzy

 

[Tank Man]

That's a take.. a biased one I'd say. Dude... NTR fans, or even people that can just stomach it, constantly get insulted by randos, looked down upon and called stuff like cucks all the time, even within the topic of games that are focusing on NTR. Hell barely a day ago there was some posts cleanup in the thread, from some idiot ragebaiting and insulting like that.

The sad reality is that most games lean one way, one focus, even when they try to offer diversity. Most harem games, while offering Vanilla solo LI paths, will offer a lesser quality overall on their related path and scenes, even subconsciously. Most NTR, NTS games, while still offering Vanilla or Pure paths, will not deliver their best work on those parts. Just like most games not focusing on NTR, but with optional parts of it, will not be the best experience for fans of that kink.

It's still great, despite all our deserved or undeserved whining and complaints, that SoC offers so many options, and seems bent on finishing all paths, despite some clear focus on NTR content. Many games won't even go that far, and don't even have as much pressure to do so. Most other games' vanilla path is just about removing the ntr, sharing, lesbian and group scenes. So most scenes truly.

Absolutely, and I apologize, my wording has been a little harsh. I do see people that like NTR getting insulted by people that don't like it as well and for what it's worth, people that do like it I have no problem with, unless they are rude.

I have to agree and that is part of the reason as for why I'd like more games going all in on one or the other, the quality is worse and there is usually such a small amount of it that we could just ignore it, wether it's NTR games with optional Vanilla path or the other way around. Take Superhuman as an example, small, tiny, next to non existing NTR path for one character, that probably only lasts for the first chapter or so. It's enough for the tag of course, but actual NTR fans are probably disappointed by it, and it makes finding it for people like me that just start searching on this site after excluding the tag way harder. I probably missed a couple of gems that are like that, the ones that have the tag with no real NTR content.

Although I did just say that more games should go one or the other, I don't mean to get rid of all of them. If they are like this one, where I am not quite through yet but really enjoy, they are good to have as they are. But if someone looks for NTR and finds Superhuman (wich I love to be fair), they are gonna be dissapointed. First they have to go a decent chunk of game, then they find out that it's the unofficial NTR definition and the two characters aren't a couple, then they find out it's like three scenes all in all.

To focus on the actual game of the discussion for a moment, this game is one of the greats. I did take some scenes of Alexia with Jezera (Andras can go straight to hell) because again, I hope we can turn it around on her with Rowan and Alexia, but otherwise there was just a lot of good scenes and man, not enough games have shortstacks in them (I like the funny Gob). I sincerly hope that NTR fans eat as good as I do in this game because it's hard to keep the two sides happy, and if this game pulls it off, it's a monumental achievement.

On a side note, from what I saw in the conversation my dream with Jezera seems to be a possibility. I don't really like femdom, but I love it if it can be turned around. Here is me hoping for some controll loss scenes for her.

 

[Tank Man]

I always found Andras more annoying than anything. But there was a moment while trying to recruit some orcs. Him and Rowan were going back and forward ribbing each other. Felt like one of them buddy cop film moments. And I had a though like wow. Not saying they would be friends, but at least getting along a lot better. If he wasn't such a dick a lot of the time. I mean that and razing the village.... and trying to fuck his wife... and him.

Yeah, that and the dance scene with Jezera give me a little hope that the twins can actually be Corrupted Corrected to be better, I don't know how to actually describe it so I'll keep calling it Redemption porn, is my biggest fetish. Let us Corrupt Redeem them to become better people (I hope we can transform Andras into a girl and turn the situation around on him, that is however me just being greedy).

 

[Wiliam 1234567]

Yeah, that and the dance scene with Jezera give me a little hope that the twins can actually be Corrupted Corrected to be better, I don't know how to actually describe it so I'll keep calling it Redemption porn, is my biggest fetish. Let us Corrupt Redeem them to become better people (I hope we can transform Andras into a girl and turn the situation around on him, that is however me just being greedy).

I highly doubt that will happen, but it would be quite ironic if in the end it was Rowan who "corrupted" the twins to the side of good.
The authors have already proven to have good writing skills, so who knows, maybe we can dream.

 

[Chakas]

I don't like that you pretty much have to make Alexia hate you for the NTR route

Wait, I can't have them be a lovely couple and have her Cheat him with Andras? Hope you're wrong because it's a far better story if she still love Rowan but still like to fool around with Andras. Rowan cheat on her every time and still can act like he would die for her, don't see why the same shouldn't be true for her

 

[Chakas]

People who get turned on by it tend to be late stage porn addicted simps with an inferiority complex, they pay the most too.

It just so happens there's a disproportionate % of those online on different sites for porn content because normal, well adjusted people tend to have shit to do. You ever wonder why every other protagonist of these porn games are beyond pathetic? It's to be a self insert to the permavirgins.

Must be projecting hard or, hopefully, being ironic. Most likely a troll, well adjusted people wouldn't even be on this site, let alone waste the time commenting this when they havd shit to do

 

[Ploch]

How do you get the Che-lin scenes?