kratosz

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I just came back to this game after playing it in 2020, and while I don't remember every detail, I distinctly recall the choices involving Helayna and Alexia. If I chose Helayna, Alexia would leave the room—was that her room? I'm really curious if there's a way to have both of them together, or is it a strict choice between the two? Would love to hear if anyone's figured this out!
 

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I just came back to this game after playing it in 2020, and while I don't remember every detail, I distinctly recall the choices involving Helayna and Alexia. If I chose Helayna, Alexia would leave the room—was that her room? I'm really curious if there's a way to have both of them together, or is it a strict choice between the two? Would love to hear if anyone's figured this out!
You choose at the beginning of the game whether you want to share a room with Alexia or not. If you choose to remain with her, she will always leave after you bring in Helayna. So it's not possible to have them permanently in the same room, unfortunately. However, if Alexia has enough corruption points, she can be persuaded by Rowan that keeping Helayna is an OK thing and even though she never returns to the room, there is a possibility of threesome with both of them and they are on good terms.
 
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I just came back to this game after playing it in 2020, and while I don't remember every detail, I distinctly recall the choices involving Helayna and Alexia. If I chose Helayna, Alexia would leave the room—was that her room? I'm really curious if there's a way to have both of them together, or is it a strict choice between the two? Would love to hear if anyone's figured this out!
Helayna's arc is currently being reworked. According to what the Devs have said in the past they plan to eventually allow you to reconcile with Alexia after allowing Helayna to move into your room. What exactly that reconciliation looks like is yet to be seen, but I would wager on it involving a threesome at least.
 

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Speaking of threesomes and Andras, I'm surprised there isn't some kind of NTR/Cuck scene of Andras, Alexia, and Rowan. Or, Jezera, Alexia, and Rowan.
 
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Speaking of threesomes and Andras, I'm surprised there isn't some kind of NTR/Cuck scene of Andras, Alexia, and Rowan. Or, Jezera, Alexia, and Rowan.
with andras this really doesn't make any sense and is subject to a myriad of debates here on this forum (which i also often said is inconsistent behaviour from andras).
but yeah the official reason is that neither twin can allow themselves to openly mistreat alexia and rowan's relationship, since they are reliant on rowan's tactical genius. so they at least have to appear adhering to their promises to rowan, as otherwise he would not serve them. they need him as willing slave. anything else and he won't be worth it to be kept.

since the story has gotten far beyond the point where it would still be reasonable for rowan to not choose the hero's death, considering how integral he is to the success of the twins, my unofficial guess would be that those scenes are reserved for 2nd or 3rd act.
 

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with andras this really doesn't make any sense and is subject to a myriad of debates here on this forum (which i also often said is inconsistent behaviour from andras).
but yeah the official reason is that neither twin can allow themselves to openly mistreat alexia and rowan's relationship, since they are reliant on rowan's tactical genius. so they at least have to appear adhering to their promises to rowan, as otherwise he would not serve them. they need him as willing slave. anything else and he won't be worth it to be kept.

since the story has gotten far beyond the point where it would still be reasonable for rowan to not choose the hero's death, considering how integral he is to the success of the twins, my unofficial guess would be that those scenes are reserved for 2nd or 3rd act.
this reminds me, are they still doing the three act structure? I've heard nothing on act 2 for years
 
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Helayna's arc is currently being reworked. According to what the Devs have said in the past they plan to eventually allow you to reconcile with Alexia after allowing Helayna to move into your room. What exactly that reconciliation looks like is yet to be seen, but I would wager on it involving a threesome at least.
Not gonna lie, I was wondering when that would happen. It only makes sense if she is corrupt enough that something like that would happen.
 

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this reminds me, are they still doing the three act structure? I've heard nothing on act 2 for years
Yep, according to all official information and statements they are still doing that. To speak to the Andras/Jezera NTR reveal to Rowan, they are specifically keeping that under wraps til at least some ways into Act 2 for the reasons already mentioned. Jezera can offhand mention to Rowan that Andras is fucking Alexia, but Rowan simply thinks that she is trying to rile him up. Which, to be fair, she is (and its dropping the ball on her part because she is supposed to be using Alexia to keep him loyal after all, but then Jezera isn't as smart or in control as she pretends to be). There's speculation that the amount of favor/influence Alexia has with Rowan/Andras/Jezera will eventually have Alexia join or stay loyal to either side in the eventual civil war that is going to happen within the Twins faction.

There's a lot of speculation going on with the story, especially since it is seeing some rewrites here and there. Probably one of the best stories in these kinds of games out there with how reactive it is. The devs have mentioned they're going to have to trim a lot of that going in to act 2, because their scene-count is ballooning to an insane degree.
 
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>Andras x Alexia 1 (NTR, Dub-Con, Anal, Light Blood) [4 of 4 CGs]
>Requires NTR to be on. Occurs at the end of week one if Rowan chooses not to sneak out or
tells Alexia to sleep with Andras
How in the world do you get this to trigger?
That isn't how the scene works anymore. I think it was rewritten from a very early build of the game. Presuming the scene that it replaces is the one where Alexia remains angry with Andras during her captivity, then decides she is seriously considering his offer, then finally kisses Andras rather than slaps him.
 
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That isn't how the scene works anymore. I think it was rewritten from a very early build of the game. Presuming the scene that it replaces is the one where Alexia remains angry with Andras during her captivity, then decides she is seriously considering his offer, then finally kisses Andras rather than slaps him.
Ah! I was starting to suspect that list of scenes I was looking at was old. Thank you Devronman.
 

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Could someone clarify the NTR path involving Andras x Alexia? I see there are two routes: one where it's full NTR and another where Alexia stays with Rowan but "helps" Andras. I'm a bit confused about how to navigate this to maintain a "lovely" relationship between the MC and Alexia while still having her ASSist Andras. Any tips on how to achieve this without outdated choices?
 

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Could someone clarify the NTR path involving Andras x Alexia? I see there are two routes: one where it's full NTR and another where Alexia stays with Rowan but "helps" Andras. I'm a bit confused about how to navigate this to maintain a "lovely" relationship between the MC and Alexia while still having her ASSist Andras. Any tips on how to achieve this without outdated choices?
There is only one Alexia x Andras NTR route. I think some misunderstanding may arise from the fact that the game has many events which are NTR events with Andras. They happen either randomly or on certain points but in any given playthrough you may or may not get them all. Giving in to Andras during these events raises Alexia's "Andras influence" points. If Alexia's corruption AND these influence points are high enough (they need to be higher than "Jezera influence" points!) in addition to her relationship points with Rowan being low, you enter the Andras NTR path which is basically a chain of related events. Regardless of your choices, Rowan will not discover Alexia cheating on him so he continues his usual work in Bloodmeen.
 
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There is only one Alexia x Andras NTR route. I think some misunderstanding may arise from the fact that the game has many events which are NTR events with Andras. They happen either randomly or on certain points but in any given playthrough you may or may not get them all. Giving in to Andras during these events raises Alexia's "Andras influence" points. If Alexia's corruption AND these influence points are high enough (they need to be higher than "Jezera influence" points!) in addition to her relationship points with Rowan being low, you enter the Andras NTR path which is basically a chain of related events. Regardless of your choices, Rowan will not discover Alexia cheating on him so he continues his usual work in Bloodmeen.
It's so frustrating that the relationship points need to be low in addition to the influence points being high. What if I wanna play a Rowan that is not a douche to his wife but Alexia still gets the wandering eye.
 
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