lifegetsweird
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IDK, it's my favorite coupling by a long mile, so I'd like the storyline to continue with every update ♀
Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.13a] [Vénus Noire]
Not by a long shot. Like seriously, okay, you guys like that ship, but save something for the next act. We're lacking Rowan/Jez tho.
monk_56
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Iirc one of the devs said Jezera had like 2 or 3 events left? Same with Andras NTR and Jezera NTR. No idea how long the Rowan x Andras route will be.
Anyone hoping for a modicum of route length equity b/t these twins routes is gonna be disappointed. One of the devs once said it is b/c that is how long each of the narratives took to write and Alexia x Andras took a lot of ink. You can buy that logic or not I suppose.
It is disappointing no better non MC x MC couplings will get as much attention as Andras x Alexia (actively despise the pairing.).
As for anyone hoping to consistently get updates on an any specific NPC character. Temper your expectations. It just isn't a realistic wish in the SoC ecosystem. The team is too small to consistently give their whole player-base what they want on a short term-scale. Helenya is up to what, several years since getting more dedicated narrative? Somewhere between 6-8 months since it was talked about being added to. Who knows how long it'll be before Cilonia gets an update? At least another year probably. Character arcs are really feast or famine since they tend to be built up in blocks as the writers work on them.
Some releases you get a trove of sexual content you like. Other releases; not very much at all. It is what it is.
Being interested in the stories instead of just the sex scenes will help you keep your interest the game..
Though even then, many of the one off stories (especially Alexia's) are just window dressing for sex scenes.
*Queues up porn music*
Soc is a good game, but you have to hedge your expectations on a short term scale. Otherwise it is very easy to be disappointed in it in on a release to release basis.
Yeah, I think that's the "problem". The game's update flow is actually great, even if it's once every two months you get a lot of CGIs and around 6 new scenes with each one, which is not bad at all... But, there are so many different plots, characters and kinks that chances are you won't see the ones you like in a long time. (Cries in being a Cilohna fan)
Why not?. She has potential and can be of good use to the narrative and interactions between Rowan and Alexia, besides, her backstory is good and can further compete with Alexia for Rowan or submerge in a Trio o Foursome (X'zaralt). She can be useful in this works as a trainer for slaves in the Arena, manage prisoners properly (not like Alexia) or even train soldiers by the orders of Rowan, is a very useful and can be trustworthy if used/employ properly... Damn she can even be a potential competitor for Alexia by taking the attention of The Twins when Alexia is falling into Corruption. Is a very potential character, for me, she's been wasted when she can be more for Act II and III. In this Act I she's recovering, there is not too much for her to do but at least if we as Rowan choose to recover her, then show us that she in fact is instead of making her appear in the room constantly as a mindless whore.
Honestly I am thirsty for Andras as Rowan (my dream end would be me being a priest king of Karnas and turning Andras into my general/slut) and while there are several scenes between them I don't think there is a clear arc there. Andras just likes to humiliate Rowan when he can but that's it?
If nothing else because it'd mean having to produce ton of content (multiple scenes for various jobs) for a character that many players are likely to help escape when she asks them to, and as such never be in a situation where they'd see any of it.
My dream is become the Embodiment of Power, overthrow The Gods, subduing the females of Bloodmeen powerless and in fear while the males weak and in panic... Meanwhile, passing Judgement to the whole World drinking wine in Andras's Skull.
But we don't know what's up to her in Act II yet... Are we?... Maybe you don't understand me well...
From what i can read in your reply, you're painting various scenarios for Helayna after she recovers her wits but remains in the castle as Rowan's fucktoy, isn't that correct?
I vaguely recall some dialogue in the script for the Rastedel part that had situational content in case Helayna had recovered (I think she was able to carry herself as a knight again and was Rowan's bodyguard or something like that). Haven't played the game in forever so not sure if her recovery arc has had any progress for act 1.
Currently in my "good guy" run I preferred to help her escape, felt like she was kind of already recovering and with enough support she'd be able to survive and maybe even thrive on her own. It does however feel like that if you help her escape she will probably be written off the game, otherwise I feel that an escaped Helayna and a "stayed but recovered" Helayna would overlap thematically, since if the later was able to recover completely then the only reason to choose to help her escape instead of keeping her would be out of loyalty to Alexia rather than for Helayna's own well being.
Currently in my "good guy" run I preferred to help her escape, felt like she was kind of already recovering and with enough support she'd be able to survive and maybe even thrive on her own. It does however feel like that if you help her escape she will probably be written off the game, otherwise I feel that an escaped Helayna and a "stayed but recovered" Helayna would overlap thematically, since if the later was able to recover completely then the only reason to choose to help her escape instead of keeping her would be out of loyalty to Alexia rather than for Helayna's own well being.
Am sorry, but making the font bigger doesn't make whatever point you think you're trying to make any clearer. The examples you've provided of how "she can be more in Act II & III" all require her to be still in the castle during these acts. Which is not going to be the case for players who have helped her escape in Act I when she asked them to.
Pal... In Act II whatever she's doing, she would be recovered fully or at most and, as a noblewoman knighted, she could run or be participant against a battle in which Rowan and Bloodmeen army is... Encounter her again in the future isn't impossible, the character after choosing being freed as far as i played and remember she isn't mention anymore, we doesn't know what's her business since then, so if you didn't pick her in Act I, it can be for Act II, with Rowan claiming her and maintaining her at his side this time because she can be of value for his future plans. But in Act I, if she's with Rowan and we choose to recover her, then there isn't make sense to have her still naked without making a word from her mouth... The reason i put the font bigger is because it makes me think that you didn't read my post entirely.
IIRC in the current version of the game after she recovers her wits she speaks quite coherently. She's just still interested mostly in sucking Rowan's dick, but purely because she's now in love with him if the player declares they have feelings for her and tells her it's too dangerous for her to go.
Only during scenes when she's still reovering... But as far as i choose for her to be restore as a knight, and she can be seen dressed as noblewoman and later with her old armor, after scene ends and until Rastedel's Fall, she still naked and with " ... " as speaking... And I can't be more than WTF?! after seeing an event that show us that she's recovering for see her later in the room as nothing really happened...
Ahh, i didn't keep her in my game so didn't know this. It does sound weird and actually more like a bug than intended behavior, because i seem to recall there's some repeatable events in game files which are supposed to play for recovered Helayna, with her acting pretty normal.
I invite you to keep her, you'll see what i'm talking about, it's frustrating as fuck...
monk_56
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Just b/c someone left the plot at one point doesn't mean there won't be another injection point. It'd be easy enough to bottleneck her back into relevancy at the castle even if she did escape. Extra true in a situation where Rowan has more power. You make a fair point in regards to branching being an issue- but there are certainly creativities one can conjure up to work around the split. Assuming winter felt like it would be narratively worthwhile of course.
Helenya is a way better character than Alexia. More nuanced, more consistently written, and with a much more interesting narrative trajectory.
The brain-dead coomer soap opera that is Alexia's meta-plot can die in a fire. "There are two wolves inside of you- which one is stronger? The one you feed" Corruption edition as your full plot- yikes.
I would never advocate for Helenya to get deuteragonist role in SoC though for fear the same thing would happen to her. She is going to have a much more focused and higher quality story if handled by a single writer.
I feel like it'd be very difficult to make her return plausible, in the sense given her escape about the only role she has left in case of return is to be tortured until she gives away who facilitated her escape in the first place. Neither Jezera nor Andras strike me as someone who'd allow her to just prance around, without making double sure she's been permanently mind broken this time into becoming an orc cock sleeve, at the very least. It wouldn't matter how much Rowan is going to whine about it.
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You do realize there will eventually be branches in which the twins don't get to make those decisions anymore right?
Rowan might be a mewling powerless whiny bitch now- but it'll end eventually.
Who knows how many years we will have to wait for that though.
Injecting post-escape Hel back into the plot in a meaningful way would pretty much depend on it. Devs could also do it by recapturing her before Rowan had any power; but as you said it wouldn't be very interesting as a narrative- she'd just get turned into a rape / NTR fetishist cum rag like she already is on the non-Rowan route.
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