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That wouldn't change anything for the best in the Overall Look... If you successfully overcome The Twins just by being more popular or get enough power to get control over Bloodmeen, it doesn't mean that Rowan could still be pure, the first lost for Rowan was choosing to work for them... Being in control of Bloodmeen (by power or support) doesn't mean the war will end because it's more probably that he has become corrupt as or more corrupt than The Twins, and Rowan have a burden of ideals and thoughts that can make people have a bad time.
True, it's more of an ending I want to see. Mind you, not an evil stereotypical tv villain shit, just more morally grey Rowan as an actual person in power.
What I could see as heroic is maybe a hero's death to put things the back they were as close as possible or maybe even better, but eh. I'm fine with some drama, but mostly I just want Rowan to put down Twins because they suck and are comical evil.
 
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True, it's more of an ending I want to see. Mind you, not an evil stereotypical tv villain shit, just more morally grey Rowan as an actual person in power.
What I could see as heroic is maybe a hero's death to put things the back they were as close as possible or maybe even better, but eh. I'm fine with some drama, but mostly I just want Rowan to put down Twins because they suck and are comical evil.
Well, myself as many here expect to have the enjoy of that in one way or another, to overcome them, some expect some hero's deus ex machina, but looking how much damage can be done by The Twins with Rowan's help that's not precisely a choice, it's being more naive, this isn't Dragon Ball, people don't and can't be resurrected after being killed, the destruction of towns, cities and wealth (in the more overall true sense) can't be returned back as before or for the better, is lost, and will be need to spend years (if not centuries) to recover with the correct conditions (and like in the reality that inspire fantasy & fiction stories) but never be the same nor more splendorous than before, just think in Babylon with their Hanging Gardens majesty that couldn't be replicated, or think in the majesty that was Constantinople that can't be compare as Babylon's Majesty... So, what's lose is lost... But you can suspect for the worst because:
I'm the one who wanted you to suffer.
:KEK: So, expect for the worst...
 

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First is X'zaratl, second is Delane.

First just wants you to be happy.

The second................. Happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

You guys thought all that disobeying the twins won't have consequences? Get real. This ain't a fairytale.

Her suffering is punishment for your misdeeds.

And I want you all to know.

It was me.

I'm the one who suggested it. I'm the one who wanted you to suffer.

Get rekt.
X'zaratl (or Alexia) doesn't make me happy. Delane does. So careful now, don't remove a character that is actually likable.
 
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It wasn't technically remove, it is spiritually/mentally dead but her body becomes in a nice horny creature that can serve as a mount for Rowan :v
That's the point, I don't want to see her as degraded sex toy, she's just nice and likeable and way better wife material for Rowan than Alexia is.
Not that that is a tall order tbh, I don't see the appeal of Alexia besides to the NTR crowd. Delane is more interesting as a personality, Helayna has more love drama and is more exciting as a sexual partner for Rowan, Liurial is better as a fling/secretary Rowan fucks type of deal although I'm not sure if there is more beyond that to them... Patricia is good as a milf noblewoman ally you can bang, Juliet too if you want to deflower a young noblewoman or maybe play as her protector (Delane is a bit of that too, but she has a stronger personality).

That's why I said that it's a bit laughable when game thinks that I care for Alexia. Now I get it from the point of the story, but eventually there should come a point where Rowan either flat out ditches Alexia or stays and tries to save her not because of love that you as a player don't even have, but because out of duty to his still wife, which could still make sense for Rowan as a character, but dialogue needs to reflect that. Magic's gone, so to speak.
 
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That's the point, I don't want to see her as degraded sex toy, she's just nice and likeable and way better wife material for Rowan than Alexia is.
Not that that is a tall order tbh, I don't see the appeal of Alexia besides to the NTR crowd. Delane is more interesting as a personality, Helayna has more love drama and is more exciting as a sexual partner for Rowan, Liurial is better as a fling/secretary Rowan fucks type of deal although I'm not sure if there is more beyond that to them... Patricia is good as a milf noblewoman ally you can bang, Juliet too if you want to deflower a young noblewoman or maybe play as her protector (Delane is a bit of that too, but she has a stronger personality).
Ok... ok, calm down, but you must know that she can be "saved" if you not only decided to make her escape from the orc camp but don't choose Werden's Route by any means... Just know that Rein wants us to suffer, in a way or another ;v
 

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Ok... ok, calm down, but you must know that she can be "saved" if you not only decided to make her escape from the orc camp but don't choose Werden's Route by any means... Just know that Rein wants us to suffer, in a way or another ;v
Yeah, I know. Tbh, I don't see the appeal of Werden's route. Sure, some people escape, but there is still much death. Marianne doesn't get turned into a statue, but what's to say that we can't turn her back or at least give her peaceful death later on when we deal with Twins? Marianne forgiving you even feels a bit like foreshadowing. And Twins molesting her would just turn off potential servants besides the most evil ones. If you are just a regular citizen, would you approve of that shit? If anything yet again Twins are fucking up and Rowan can step as a moderate one. And in that case Patricia route seems better to me, because you can control the city through her when the time comes.
Nah that Rowan seems to like it because muh honor, but it's a better option in my opinion. Although, the best option would have been to abandon Alexia to begin with and gather all powers and strike at Twins while they are still weak and disorganized.
 

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Yeah, I know. Tbh, I don't see the appeal of Werden's route. Sure, some people escape, but there is still much death. Marianne doesn't get turned into a statue, but what's to say that we can't turn her back or at least give her peaceful death later on when we deal with Twins? Marianne forgiving you even feels a bit like foreshadowing. And Twins molesting her would just turn off potential servants besides the most evil ones. If you are just a regular citizen, would you approve of that shit? If anything yet again Twins are fucking up and Rowan can step as a moderate one. And in that case Patricia route seems better to me, because you can control the city through her when the time comes.
Nah that Rowan seems to like it because muh honor, but it's a better option in my opinion. Although, the best option would have been to abandon Alexia to begin with and gather all powers and strike at Twins while they are still weak and disorganized.
The appeal might come from the next few acts, although has said before, the game gives you pretty slim reasons to want to do it, and if anything gives you more reasons to not do it. Werden is a dying bitter old fool that saves the nobles and little else, the nobles are incompetent idiots and/or only care about their own hides. If the route was put there has a show that the game is not about trying to do the "good thing" i wouldn't be surprised.
Loyal Rowan gets praised and a new servant, disloyal rowan gets to put someone useful under his direct control or allegiance, good rowan gets beaten and bloodied, has no reward and has one of the best characters "killed".
My personal opinion , the "good" ending will be the least satisfying one, the story seems to show at every turn that there aren't good guys, only different systems, and the fact that you can get approval from the goddess just because Rowan makes the twins go with a structured hierarchy says a lot.

I just hope that they don't keep rowan in the "any true action against the twins is immediately found out and punished within 5 seconds till 3 minutes from the ending". Act 1 is fulled with contradiction due to the events.
Adras learns to be less of a idiot? Nop, 2 events later he is back to bull rushing, guess that strategy talk went out the window.
The dwarf saying you are the true power behind the throne? Naah, that is hot air, we are in the act 1, can't have that.
 

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Well, myself as many here expect to have the enjoy of that in one way or another, to overcome them, some expect some hero's deus ex machina, but looking how much damage can be done by The Twins with Rowan's help that's not precisely a choice, it's being more naive, this isn't Dragon Ball, people don't and can't be resurrected after being killed, the destruction of towns, cities and wealth (in the more overall true sense) can't be returned back as before or for the better, is lost, and will be need to spend years (if not centuries) to recover with the correct conditions (and like in the reality that inspire fantasy & fiction stories) but never be the same nor more splendorous than before, just think in Babylon with their Hanging Gardens majesty that couldn't be replicated, or think in the majesty that was Constantinople that can't be compare as Babylon's Majesty... So, what's lose is lost... But you can suspect for the worst because:

:KEK: So, expect for the worst...
I'm a basic bitch, I want a power fantasy ending. I mean if Alexia can be transformed who says Rowan cannot be. Get in that chamber absorb all that good chaosy shit and fuck and rule the world for hundreds of years as a twisted abomination with his harem of redheads and greenskins. Morals and happy endings be dammed I just want Rowan to fuck Helayna, Liurial,, Jezera Alexia, Min etc bandy for eternity.

That or Rowan fucking dies to some peasent at the end because the stupid sod refused to wear proper armour and the devs want to see us scream.
 

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Seems to me like people assume this game to be another "Good versus Evil" example, when it is "Order versus Chaos" instead. I mean:
you can get approval from the goddess just because Rowan makes the twins go with a structured hierarchy
That certainly fits the latter and not the former.
 
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Seems to me like people assume this game to be another "Good versus Evil" example, when it is "Order versus Chaos" instead. I mean:

That certainly fits the latter and not the former.
Define order and chaos for you then... Did you hear the phrase "from an order came the chaos and from that chaos emerge an order"?... The meaning is, from every separated thing in existence that have have an order of it's own, by trowing them there is chaos because there isn't just one stable order, but by the interaction of all these systems emerge a spontaneous order that balance everything... That's how in a very superb resume, is how our universe is constituted. In that very same thought, The Goddess of Order can be the real very same enemy this whole time, just by supporting a hierarchy, but, what if this Gods support other kind of "Order" Systems too?, like moral ones?... That's fucking up everything to think to begin with...
 

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Hi, i just recently decided to try this game out but for some reason it is not loading? i have extracted the file and run the .exe but its doesn't open. Like nothing pops up and no error message appears. any suggestions why?

If it helps, it looks like the log is stuck on the line loading script error took ... secs and nothing comes after that
 
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Hi, i just recently decided to try this game out but for some reason it is not loading? i have extracted the file and run the .exe but its doesn't open. Like nothing pops up and no error message appears. any suggestions why?

If it helps, it looks like the log is stuck on the line loading script error took ... secs and nothing comes after that
OS?... Did you give permissions?... Your OS is X86-64 or X86?...
 
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