Others Completed Sengoku Rance [v1.07] [AliceSoft]

[Sorapi]

Just how many panda waves are there? Is it unavoidable to lose to the pandas and Hakkindasan?

 

[BooDoof]

Just how many panda waves are there? Is it unavoidable to lose to the pandas and Hakkindasan?

Yep, you just lose.

 

[Muhlik]

if your reaction to a game being hard is to use a cheat engine instead of engaging with the game's mechanics or- baring that- reading a guide.

Did I offend you?

I play some hard games, I play some easy games. This game feels like one where you have extremely specific path you need to walk on to complete, which I don't like. So play as I want (with cheats), to see what's even in there and what it has (had) to offer, that's it. If anything, it heavily reminded be of Heroes of Might and Magic III, so I cannot not praise it, but the action point (dart) system seems insanely bullshitting.

Also how did I even suppose to know some mechanics without clicking on them first? This is what guides for in case game refuses to explain shit AND puts you on timer*. When I tried to just play by tips, general knowledge and stuff, I ended up in a very bad situation pretty quickly. Frustrating experience, I must say.

 

[Muhlik]

Going north seemed fine, there's also a bit of random involved on whether you get war declared from the south neighbor or not. If you ignore Uesugi you constantly get rekt from Kenshin, your scouting ability becomes completely useless.
If you finish dungeons or SP +100 troops before getting Kenshin, you fucked later. because she won't get the bonuses.
If you don't call for reinforcements to get Ursa, you're fucked, because it's OP commander, and the whole game balance is built on this fact.

This is not just hard game, although it is. It also has just 1 solution.

 

[Sorapi]

Is there a way to prevent Chinu from exploding? Madou did it

 

[Okabe Zero-Link]

Is there a way to prevent Chinu from exploding? Madou did it
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No, other than in Ran and Monkeyslayer route

 

[Jugurthine]

Just how many panda waves are there? Is it unavoidable to lose to the pandas and Hakkindasan?

I've heard it's 32 waves exact.

 

[Jugurthine]

Going north seemed fine, there's also a bit of random involved on whether you get war declared from the south neighbor or not. If you ignore Uesugi you constantly get rekt from Kenshin, your scouting ability becomes completely useless.
If you finish dungeons or SP +100 troops before getting Kenshin, you fucked later. because she won't get the bonuses.
If you don't call for reinforcements to get Ursa, you're fucked, because it's OP commander, and the whole game balance is built on this fact.

This is not just hard game, although it is. It also has just 1 solution.

There's nothing stopping you from making a tactician as good as Urza, you just have to increase relations to increase a tacticians capabilities through abilities. I've finally beaten the game and came out understanding more from the frustration of it (so much so I think a second playthrough will be easier from the experience). I won't say your frustration isn't unwarranted, but stats and abilities trump sheer troop number. Give your gifts to tacticians and your "A team" to speed up their usefulness in mid to late-game conquest battles, Sabotage before a castle battle, and go to dungeons for not only equipment but also skill books to optimize unit stat performance, and finally understand unit meta aka archers quickly become ass and should be replace with onmyouji. While foreign troops make the game easier, not having them doesn't make it unbeatable. This game is the epitome of both the charm and drawbacks of most Japanese strategy games.

 

[Sorapi]

I just finished my first run of it, is there anything different about the 2nd run? like is there a turn limit and stuff

 

[Okabe Zero-Link]

I just finished my first run of it, is there anything different about the 2nd run? like is there a turn limit and stuff

Second game onward allows you to start alternative routes, and contain alternative choices for some scenario, e.g: when you conquer Hara, assuming you have enough NP, you can have Akihime as a Miko/Healer unit; or you can duel and recruit Inukai (this specifically is canon); or save and character clear Yukihime (also canon).

You can also pick some bonus, like the Operation Permit set, +5 NP, +1 Action or +10k Gold. Also treasures you got from prior runs can also be choose here

There are also bonus units, like the onmyouji Elina or the Samurai Morita Ai. You can also obtain house-specific units, like if you conquered Uesugi and recruited both Ai and Kenshin, you can have them as your starter units, with the caveat that Uesugi will be at war with you right away

How to start each route (all can be setup within one run):

Official History (aka True, you already start this when you start first run):
Conquer or vassal 5 houses with gourds. Since Oda will break first anyway, in reality you only needs to deal with 4 houses

Isoroku:
Conquer Ashikaga and recruited Isoroku. Then raise her affection and see her first H-scene. When Kouhime goes missing, choose "Search for Kou, but..."

Kenshin:
To do this, note that the third gourd-breaking event must happen after Turn 22. The third house is usually Uesugi anyway, so remember to try and conquer them after Turn 22. Then ofc, recruit both Kenshin and Ai. Raise Kenshin's affection to Trust then see her deploying event where she eat her riceballs. After the event where Xavier recieves the Emperor Headband, start the picnic event at Maso

Ran:
You must recruit Ran and wait for Souun to go to Viper Oil Field's dungeon. Do scout often, cuz if you saw Ran with the move "Summon Suzaku", you cannot capture her and you'll lose anyway. One she lost that move, capture her, wait for Souun to disappear, then conquer Houjou and recruit Ran, see her first event (basically any of her purple events), then go to Viper Oil Field's dungeon and clear it. You must not be already in a route (aka already breaking 5 gourds or enter any heroine routes) piror to this, so this should be your third house on your gourd-breaking list

Monkeyslayer:
Choose "Enable Killing Toukichirou" in "Clan Character Bonus". Once Suzume joins you (around Turn 7), choose the "Kill Toukichirou" event, and welcome to Monkeyslayer. This route is effectively a sandbox mode where you can grind for points and watch obscure events

Archfiend (Bad Ending, unwinnable):
In any route, either do not search for Hirami Lemons (aka don't go into Mikan's dungeon) or do not search for Miki shen she goes missing. You have to rely on Operation Permits for this one if you want to take all the provinces during this route

Optimized house conquering order:
Hara->Ashikaga->Any house nearby that doesn't have gourds, including: Tanegashima, Tokugawa, Imagawa, Miko Union or Azai-Asakura. Leave Azai-Asakura for last though->Kenshin (conquering after Turn 22 and have to conquer after the coup has happened within 5 turns)->Houjou

 

[lamba]

This game feels like one where you have extremely specific path you need to walk on to complete, which I don't like. So play as I want (with cheats), to see what's even in there and what it has (had) to offer, that's it.

Not really, no. The first play through is supposed to be hard.

Did I offend you?

My comment was pretty straight forward. Rance titles- especially the ones prior to 8- are not going to hold your hand. You're expected to figure out a lot on your own. You're expected to lose. It is part of the experience. Resorting to using a cheat engine is going to spoil the experience because you malded out instead of engaging with the game.

You probably want less of an eroge and more of a nukige. It'll save you a lot of frustration.

is there anything different about the 2nd run? like is there a turn limit and stuff

You get new game+ options and can play the non-canon routes.

 

[Lazysnowbear94]

First real adult game i played, this and early flash games

 

[Freakotello]

I just discovered the game because it has such good reviews and the game is supposed to cover a lot of ground (tags). What exactly is the concept of the game? And how are NTR and pregnancy integrated into the game? So, is there a lover who cheats on you or can be taken away? And is pregnancy just a symbol, or does the woman have children?

 

[BooDoof]

I just discovered the game because it has such good reviews and the game is supposed to cover a lot of ground (tags). What exactly is the concept of the game? And how are NTR and pregnancy integrated into the game? So, is there a lover who cheats on you or can be taken away? And is pregnancy just a symbol, or does the woman have children?

Concept is that it's a strategy game. Better to just play it for yourself, you'll understand pretty quick. NTR isn't really a thing. There's a noncanon route where some guys can optionally seduce some of the female commanders if Rance doesn't earn their affection. There's also heroine rape, but that's not NTR. There's a different noncanon route where impregnating that heroine is the entire purpose of the route, and she does have a kid at the end of it.

 

[AI_Game]

Most of new games made MC as boring gay characters ! Very hard to find one real male MC like as Rance !
And yes ,a lot of us trying to find good sex but we stucked here by gameplay ^^
But i wishthis game let us more free to move and choice what to do because it too hard,it locked us to follow some other walkthought !
And ...how to pass Gigal without lose our commanders?Can someone give 1 list of Commander who we can send to take on Gigal, please ! I try to google but cant find it, only 1 oldyoutube video which send Rance to take on Gigal but it not work in this version !

 

[anon3213]

Most of new games made MC as boring gay characters ! Very hard to find one real male MC like as Rance !
And yes ,a lot of us trying to find good sex but we stucked here by gameplay ^^
But i wishthis game let us more free to move and choice what to do because it too hard,it locked us to follow some other walkthought !
And ...how to pass Gigal without lose our commanders?Can someone give 1 list of Commander who we can send to take on Gigal, please ! I try to google but cant find it, only 1 oldyoutube video which send Rance to take on Gigal but it not work in this version !

Demon Kentarou can beat him (this is how most people will probably win)
Soun can beat him but you are very unlikely to have him.
You can also beat him in a dungeon battle with Rance but I believe that requires you to lose one commander to him first and then pick an event on the map to unlock it.

If you are every looking for answers you can find most of them on the wiki.
Just ctrl F search for whatever you need once you pick the right section

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[lamba]

What exactly is the concept of the game?

Turn based grand strategy game with light RPG mechanics.

And how are NTR and pregnancy integrated into the game? So, is there a lover who cheats on you or can be taken away?

There's a single faction who will attempt (happens off-screen) to cuck you.

There's also a very specific side plot that only happens if a very specific character is captured or killed by a very specific enemy.

There's also a non-canon path (so you can't even access it till you've beaten the game once) where you get cucked. But they don't exactly play coy about it, and it's 'cucked' in the sense that the woman you're fucking goes back to her boyfriend.

 

[charliecho3412]

Hi - long time lurker here.

The save file provided by the Rance collection poster only didn't have alternate CG unlocked. By that I mean, for CG items like 57, only the first option under * is unlocked but the rest are still locked. So i tried to find the save files elsewhere on the internet, also in japanese sites (like sagaoz) as well as chinese sites but their saves seem all seem to have the same problem. I'm guessing its the difference between versions 1.04 and 1.07??

anyways, after spending forever to get all those scenes unlocked, i gave up and just edit the save file using nunuhara/alice-tools

providing it here for someone seeking the same, just put it in SaveData, make a backup before you do

edit: someone said it didn't work so heres another one that i just tested

 

[Rengu999]

why cant i save in the game? is there some issue? do i have to play more? are there requirements for saving the game?

The game has a limited number of saves. You need to delete old ones to be able to save again. If you can't save at all, it's a bug, it's best to download it again.

 

[foushadou]

Is there any way to skip start-up animation/opening ?