xaflarc1

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Does anyone know how to fix game freezes? Sometimes when I’m playing, the game freezes and I can’t do anything.
 

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Missing VN Prefix tag, it is advertised as a visual novel thus it should have that tag.
 

BooDoof

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Missing VN Prefix tag, it is advertised as a visual novel thus it should have that tag.
The Rance games get grandfather'ed into VNDB, but they are absolutely not vns and if they were made today wouldn't be on the database. While the earlier titles probably classify as ADV, Sengoku absolutely is just a grand strategy game. The gameplay is the allure to this one.
 
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BooDoof

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You can buy this game for pretty cheap on good old games.
To be honest, Alicesoft doesn't deserve any of your money anymore. All the actual talented people were either fucked over or quit by now, it's a shadow of its former self that exists purely to churn out gacha slop. Even when it's not making gacha slop, it's making barely passable snoozefests like Dohna Dohna. I'm planning on buying Rance X when it comes out because Steiner, Maria and the rest of the TL contractors put some good work into making an english language version of the game work, but it's a shame that Alicesoft gets even a single cent of that.
 
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Hi - long time lurker here.

The save file provided by the Rance collection poster only didn't have alternate CG unlocked. By that I mean, for CG items like 57, only the first option under * is unlocked but the rest are still locked. So i tried to find the save files elsewhere on the internet, also in japanese sites (like sagaoz) as well as chinese sites but their saves seem all seem to have the same problem. I'm guessing its the difference between versions 1.04 and 1.07??

anyways, after spending forever to get all those scenes unlocked, i gave up and just edit the save file using nunuhara/alice-tools

providing it here for someone seeking the same, just put it in SaveData, make a backup before you do

edit: someone said it didn't work so heres another one that i just tested


I love you. This game is fun and all but very time-consuming. Its like playing Total War and being expected to fully conquer the entire map 5 times with each time getting more and more difficult and while not giving powerful starting buffs for NG+

Maybe its easier for people who know the meta strats and memorized the guides but I dont want to do that for this game.
 
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To be honest, Alicesoft doesn't deserve any of your money anymore. All the actual talented people were either fucked over or quit by now, it's a shadow of its former self that exists purely to churn out gacha slop. Even when it's not making gacha slop, it's making barely passable snoozefests like Dohna Dohna. I'm planning on buying Rance X when it comes out because Steiner, Maria and the rest of the TL contractors put some good work into making an english language version of the game work, but it's a shame that Alicesoft gets even a single cent of that.

Could you expand on this? Wasn't aware of any drama.
 

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Could you expand on this? Wasn't aware of any drama.
The drama is a bit difficult to unpack because I don't read Japanese very well and it's mostly hearsay and apparently a lot of posts have either been deleted or my google-fu isn't as good as I'd like it to be, but the lead artist of most of the Rance series ( , I can't find his resignation), the director of Dohna Dohna + Rance 03 and others, ( ), artist of Alicesoft for 14 years ( ), and scenario writer for Rance 10 and 03 ( ) all resigned from Alicesoft over the past few years. (creative lead of the entire Rance series) also stepped back from a development role.

The drama starts with HIRO the executive producer of Alicesoft since TADA semi-retired in 2010. HIRO thinks gacha is the future and wanted to cancel Dohna Dohna and allegedly completely slashed the budget to pieces and forced Gyokai to overwork himself (to the point of working until his hands bled, might just be a Japanese expression though) to get the beautiful artwork the game has now. I don't like Dohna Dohna, but that's absolutely HIRO's fault for mismanaging the project. Once the project turned out to be massively successful, apparently HIRO took a lot of credit for it and it stirred up a lot of bad blood.

TADA acted as a mediator between the different factions in Alicesoft (Gacha v Traditional, Programmer v Artist), but with him completely leaving after Rance X was over, the tensions bubbled over and there was a massive exodus. Online hearsay, but people have said less than 50% of the staff remains since the Dohna Dohna days, maybe less.

While, publicly, the talents that have left have said that there isn't bad blood, it's very typical for Japanese people to be recalcitrant to publicly bad mouth anyone. That, and Alicesoft still has ties to the industry, and they don't want to burn bridges.

That's my recollection of the drama, at least. Someone else might have some juicier details that I missed out on.
 

cowardleech

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I'm getting bodied in this game, which rance games should I play before this game to enjoy it better?
 

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it's very typical for Japanese people to be recalcitrant to publicly bad mouth anyone.
More that you can get sued for it. The threshold for defamation and libel in Japan are waaaay different than they are in a place like the United States so you get weird situations where absent any proof of damages or even if it's the truth, you can still get sued and lose if it was proven to damage reputation. It's a huge part of why public discourse in Japan is so insufferably polite.

That said, it is entirely possible that HIRO was correct about the shifting economics of eroge development- bottom line, gatcha is better for your bottom line since you can't exactly pirate it- and the old guard just hung it up because they didn't want to do gatcha shit. TADA was already on his way out for health reasons and they had planned to wrap up Rance in three games after Sengoku shipped so this could just be the Japanese online anonymous gossip mill not wanting to accept the economic realities of eroge development.
I'm getting bodied in this game, which rance games should I play before this game to enjoy it better?
Sengoku Rance is designed to lose a few times to start. There's no harm in starting over a few times, it's expected. If I had six pieces of generic advice-
1: Stop wasting flags on events that don't matter.
2: Early on you can save yourself a number of flags by just letting war be declared on you. Nara, Ashikaga, Asakura, Tenshi and Iga will pick a fight with you eventually. You don't need to declare war on any of these people, they'll do it for you.
3: Most map-recruited allies aren't actually good. If they're not explicitly a named character in the plot, don't bother.
4: Your most powerful benefits come from Rance's Satisfaction bonuses. That's how you get extra flags, extra turns, Rance's special abilities, and many of the most powerful units in the game. If you can ask Leazas or Zeth for assistance, ask Zeth and Leazas for assistance. With one very specific exception- and Kanami is still stupid powerful in dungeon exploration- these are some of the most powerful units in the game. Maria, Leila, Urza, and Magic are all insanely powerful and they all have significant power scaling, and Rizna's still powerful in her own right. Just expensive.
5: Stop over-committing to fights. Excluding castle sieges to secure territories you probably don't need to commit six units to every fight. Early game you absolutely don't need more than one or two units to win a fight.
6: The only defense that matters is the last one to hold a territory. You don't need to repulse every single invasion attempt, your territories have multiple flags that need to be captured before it is lost. Of note, in scripted encounters like the Takeda Cavalry Blitz, they specifically avoid hitting the same territory over and over again till it is captured. If they can invade another territory where it wont flip control, they'll hit that instead.
 
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More that you can get sued for it. The threshold for defamation and libel in Japan are waaaay different than they are in a place like the United States so you get weird situations where absent any proof of damages or even if it's the truth, you can still get sued and lose if it was proven to damage reputation. It's a huge part of why public discourse in Japan is so insufferably polite.

That said, it is entirely possible that HIRO was correct about the shifting economics of eroge development- bottom line, gatcha is better for your bottom line since you can't exactly pirate it- and the old guard just hung it up because they didn't want to do gatcha shit. TADA was already on his way out for health reasons and they had planned to wrap up Rance in three games after Sengoku shipped so this could just be the Japanese online anonymous gossip mill not wanting to accept the economic realities of eroge development.

Sengoku Rance is designed to lose a few times to start. There's no harm in starting over a few times, it's expected. If I had six pieces of generic advice-
1: Stop wasting flags on events that don't matter.
2: Early on you can save yourself a number of flags by just letting war be declared on you. Nara, Ashikaga, Asakura, Tenshi and Iga will pick a fight with you eventually. You don't need to declare war on any of these people, they'll do it for you.
3: Most map-recruited allies aren't actually good. If they're not explicitly a named character in the plot, don't bother.
4: Your most powerful benefits come from Rance's Satisfaction bonuses. That's how you get extra flags, extra turns, Rance's special abilities, and many of the most powerful units in the game. If you can ask Leazas or Zeth for assistance, ask Zeth and Leazas for assistance. With one very specific exception- and Kanami is still stupid powerful in dungeon exploration- these are some of the most powerful units in the game. Maria, Leila, Urza, and Magic are all insanely powerful and they all have significant power scaling, and Rizna's still powerful in her own right. Just expensive.
5: Stop over-committing to fights. Excluding castle sieges to secure territories you probably don't need to commit six units to every fight. Early game you absolutely don't need more than one or two units to win a fight.
6: The only defense that matters is the last one to hold a territory. You don't need to repulse every single invasion attempt, your territories have multiple flags that need to be captured before it is lost. Of note, in scripted encounters like the Takeda Cavalry Blitz, they specifically avoid hitting the same territory over and over again till it is captured. If they can invade another territory where it wont flip control, they'll hit that instead.
Thanks for the tips guess I'll try again :p
 
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