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ImperialD
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WoW .... this hit me like a shit ton of bricks .... i actually do this .. i mean i know i shouldn't but ... i'm thinking .. it reminds me of when i was a young kid .. reading a book in the library ... or at home .. i would get submerged into the very words i was reading .. ya know like being right there 
well enough from an old man .... thanks N2 . i really enjoy your vn's
well enough from an old man .... thanks N2 . i really enjoy your vn's
Tyrranus
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hate how long it takes for this to update but at least theres always a decent amount of content in them
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I pay for mega. And I chose it because it is the only one that consistently completes uploads in a timely manner. However, when the guys here grab my downloads, they usually update the links (in the original post) with their own options.why every update file just Mega
Sorry, there won't be any incest (in anything I do). It just isn't my thing and there is so much of it out there. But I will be working on a game featuring Camilla only later on.Great to see Serenity again
Can't believe it's been a YEAR since I last played it, Last time was March 20th, 2024
and going by the dialogue between the MC and Camilla
is an incest tag far behind
My hope now, is to see an update to the Last Human, last update was back in August 2024
Last Human update is in active development now.
I know, I'm sorry. I hate it too. I try to get them done fast but I deal with so much other stuff too. Hopefully I can get Last Human update done a bit faster this round.
Avaron1974
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Nope.and going by the dialogue between the MC and Camilla
is an incest tag far behind
Sorry, there won't be any incest (in anything I do). It just isn't my thing and there is so much of it out there. But I will be working on a game featuring Camilla only later on.
Last Human update is in active development now.
Oh Well
onknight
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I just finished the latest update. It was good but brief. I was hoping to get through the Witch Battle.
But it seems that will be the next chapter. But we'll have to wait for the last human to get its chapter done
Before he starts the next chapter of serenity.
I don't understand why he just doesn't finish Serenity first.
Then pivot the last human and finish it
I love both stories
But I just started getting into the story and the chapter is done.
I'll continue supporting him though he's a decent writer and the story is well paced for the most part
These are very similar in those books it will give you choices and then you turn to a new page to continue the story
If you tried to read it like a normal book it wouldn't make sense.
I guess that's why I'm drawn to Renpy novels so much so I understand what you're saying
But it seems that will be the next chapter. But we'll have to wait for the last human to get its chapter done
Before he starts the next chapter of serenity.
I don't understand why he just doesn't finish Serenity first.
Then pivot the last human and finish it
I love both stories
But I just started getting into the story and the chapter is done.
I'll continue supporting him though he's a decent writer and the story is well paced for the most part
As a kid I got hooked on books that let you create your own storyWoW .... this hit me like a shit ton of bricks .... i actually do this .. i mean i know i shouldn't but ... i'm thinking .. it reminds me of when i was a young kid .. reading a book in the library ... or at home .. i would get submerged into the very words i was reading .. ya know like being right there
well enough from an old man .... thanks N2 . i really enjoy your vn's
These are very similar in those books it will give you choices and then you turn to a new page to continue the story
If you tried to read it like a normal book it wouldn't make sense.
I guess that's why I'm drawn to Renpy novels so much so I understand what you're saying
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Am I imaging things or is there an increase in breast size for some in this update?
Camilla for example looks bigger and the new voltron/neko tits seems huge. I'm not a fan of big tits, but I'm probably a minority.
I appreciate the update and I hope things work out for you dev, looking forward to the next Last Human update now.
Camilla for example looks bigger and the new voltron/neko tits seems huge. I'm not a fan of big tits, but I'm probably a minority.
I appreciate the update and I hope things work out for you dev, looking forward to the next Last Human update now.
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Avaron1974
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Camilla have a tit growth spurt wouldn't matter anyway, she's not a love interest so can sprout to her hearts content. You don't need to worry about her turning you off.
Can't say i've noticed anything in the others though but might be me being not paying enough attention.
if the dev doesn't want incest, that's perfectly fine. what I don't understand though, is why hint at it then? why does mc peek at his mom's nipples? why does he have to stimulate his sister's nipples to give her back her power? and why is she so horny for him? if you don't want to write incest, at least don't blueball us. I've only started playing Serenity yesterday and was convinced that there's going to be something between them, based on Camilla's actions. now I'm left seriously disappointed. I'm still really loving the game, but... oh well
Yeah I've never played this game before but learning that kind of put me off trying it
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Actually, her breasts may be slightly bigger/smaller but it wasn't on purpose. Long story short: I created multiple character cards for each girl and for some reason one of hers had slightly bigger breasts (like literally a few points). I didn't notice it until later and I didn't bother redoing it because it was just barely noticeable (to me anyway).
I'll just lay it out for you... I get so many messages and comments about incest, Camilla, incest, Camilla... You have no idea. One person wants incest, another hates incest. "We want to see her nipples at least!" or "just make a patch!".
"I don't want to see lesbian content with Camilla! It turns me off!" / "Let us fuck Camilla!" / "You're just being a dick about it!"
"I want to see some lesbian content!" / "Why you made Camilla so hot?!"
Every single person who plays one of these games has an extremely varied view and preference about every detail. No matter what I choose to write or do graphically, someone will not be happy. So, I compromised. Hence, Camilla is the sexy sister that is always teasing MC but it never gets much further than that.
I am sorry to hear that. You won't even try it out because of what someone else said. If I did that, I'd have never even started to make a game myself. I invite you to peruse the reviews of Serenity. Go ahead, jump in the reviews tab and just look at the 1-star reviews. Read them. Look at the 4 and 5 star reviews. There is at least as much good that you will like in my games as there are people who find content they don't like. To see someone who would rather trust a bunch of strangers with such varied and different preferences - and just not even try for themselves... I hate seeing that.
Play it, don't play it... it's fine man. But, think for yourself before you judge. The reason I say that is perfectly recorded here on this thread and in the reviews... some people LOVE this game. I have some subscribers who have been with me since 2020 and have stuck around through my learning phases. Some people though hate it. Some people play chapter 1 and quit before the halfway point without ever seeing any of the improved work I put into this. That's okay too though. The fact that you're even in my thread after "learning that kind of put you off" tells me you must be curious. So I don't know, try it??? What, you lose some of your time if you don't like it? (Yall, this guy is now going to try Serenity and hate it and then he'll come post a review LOL... so I could be generating my own negative reviews by doing this LMAO).
I say this to anyone. There are thousands of these games. I am definitely one of the lower-end devs and I am NOT getting rich and not trying to get rich off this. I just do it because I enjoy creating. I also will at least try nearly any game out there, no matter what reviews say. If you ever become a AVN dev, you will see what I am talking about. People will pick out every minute detail and rate it. Every misspelled word or bad image, but only a few will also rate the stuff that was good. Most people who push through and don't quit before reaching chapter 2 end up liking the game. At least that is what I have learned in reading reviews, comments, and messages I've received.
Anyway, if you're reading this and you've been reading the reviews and comments on this thread... forget all that and just go play it. Not just Serenity, but any game. Most of these things don't take up that much of your time so just download it and see what you think about it yourself! If you quit mine before starting chapter 2, well you miss a lot of elements that I was able to improve on, and possibly some things you might really like. Or you hate all of it and... OKAY. But at least you find out for yourself.
This is all just light-hearted insight and my own thoughts on the matter. It is not meant to start some debate about anything so don't take it that way.
onknight
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Let me tell you you're missing out then the rest of the girls are beautiful. And the story is well thought out and very well paced
But as I said in my own reviews I wish you'd stick with finishing one story serenity. And then go and finish last human
It's got to be a pain in the ass wishing back and forth.
What you can't say about this writer is he's not gifted the story are excellent
Give it a try if you don't like it after part two then fine
I've stuck with him the last chapter was very good. My only complaint was I would have liked to have seen the witch fight now
Because now I'm going to have to wait until last human finishes it's next chapter before he gets back to the witch fight in serenity
@N2TheFire well done sirAs I said, I'm still loving the game. I do like incest, but I don't think it's necessary. I get that you can't satisfy everyone, but compromising isn't going to satisfy any of those camps either, imo. I think it would've been best to just make it clear that Camilla isn't there to be lewded and stick to that, no teasing.
But that's just my opinion, I don't know whether you've done any polls or something and your decision was based on that or maybe you just know that your playerbase is largely okay with it. No idea
Anyway, I've been playing Last Human for a while and I love it, no complaints there and I'm very much enjoying Serenity as well. I just had to release my frustrations about this whole Camilla situation so sorry about that
I certainly appreciate the sentiment so allow me to rephrase my statement. It has put me off trying the game RIGHT NOW. I did in fact add this game to my watch list after making my previous post but as of right at this moment I currently have 5 different games from this site open at the same time that I'm jumping between so something needs to be a bit extra to make me play it immediately over getting backlogged. As you said I am interested as everything else looks high quality and I always like a game that is forthright in just being masturbation material and simple fun with so many game devs here likening themselves to a new age Stephen King and thinking they're writing the deepest story ever when I'm just here to jack off and couldn't give less of a shit.
I'm just a guy with an opinion and don't generally back games financially since my situation doesn't allow for it so my opinion naturally doesn't hold much weight and I'm not so entitled that I'd expect you to take my feedback into account and change on my behalf but I'll give it nonetheless. I think the compromise that you went for might honestly be the worst choice you could have done as rather than a middle ground that satisfies both parties it's more of a trying to chase two hares and getting none kind of deal. I think people who hate incest would not like a family member being a tease and people who like incest won't like being blueballed since as someone who likes incest myself I think I'd prefer there be no teasing in the first place if it wasn't going to go anywhere. It's a given that set up that is made that doesn't lead to any pay off is unsatisfying. But outside of that issue everything else does look really good and to my preferences.
Never meant any ill will with my post and as I said do plan on trying the game once my backlog of games gets smaller, since you took the time for a lengthy and detailed reply, the least I could do is respond in kind. Do wish you the best with making this as I'm always looking for new things to try and am always a supporter of a dev that actually works on his game instead of endlessly milking so that alone puts this game in the top percentile of games here.
Edit: I would also just like to add that generally for any dev I think making shit for their own preferences would always be preferable to trying to be a crowd pleaser and giving everyone else what they want. Add what you want to add first before thinking about what other people, myself included want to be added.
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That is exactly what I was trying to say, you worded it really nicely
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I never thought you were being ill towards me, so no worries. I almost always reply with lengthy, detailed replies. Just look at my posts going back through this thread. I'm a little too long-winded sometimes.
Let me just say that I am not a crowd pleaser. I wrote this stuff for me. I write what I like, not what everyone else likes. Although I said that Camilla stuff was a compromise, I mostly did it as a compromise with myself because firstly, I wanted Camilla to have that "something" about her... so she's the 'teasy' little sister. It isn't incest per say, but she pushes big brother to that edge just to fuck with him because that is just Camilla. When you guys see the story I've written for Camilla, you'll understand a lot better. She loves to make people, errr... uncomfortable LOL. And not just with sex stuff.
I think that logic is kinda silly if I'm being honest. Almost every anime out there has this character... the little sister teasing her brother. It's definitely not anything that is unheard of. Every story is going to have elements you don't like. I like this element so I wrote it. I think it's funny. A lot of people who closely follow Serenity don't mind it at all. Some don't care for it, but it isn't that big a deal to them. I look at it like this... She's a character. She has this personality. Maybe she teases and you don't like it. I have affected you with my story because that part made you uncomfortable. I'll give you an example of what I am talking about. Let's go to a game that some consider as having 'questionable' content. Pale Carnations. TD & Gil, AMAZING guys. Awesome writing, and beautiful graphics in HS1. (I don't have the link handy but it's on here, search for it). Pale Carnations has the MC getting involved in S&M stuff. There's some seriously crazy content in that game. I am NOT into S&M like AT ALL. But damn man, that game is so well written and beautifully rendered that I keep playing it every update. I became friends with those guys and probably wouldn't have actually tried that game based on the content. I was wrong to think that way because I would have missed out. Out of all the AVN's I've played, there are two writers who I feel are the best at it: Drifty (Leap of Faith) and TD (Pale Carnations). They could write just about anything, and I would read it without hesitation.
All I'm trying to say is that I think people have gotten way too picky about content lately. So much that they won't even try something if they hear someone utter anything distasteful about it. And that is not always the case. I like to try them myself and not put much stock into reviews because people tend to draw different conclusions. I can't think of the game right now but back when I first found these AVN's, I read reviews on one here that was rated very similarly to Serenity right now, with a mix of 1 star and 4 or 5 star reviews. Average rating 3 stars. Half the crap people were complaining about wasn't even all that. In fact, the game was pretty damn good. I wish I could remember what game that was.
Anyway, you don't need to back me financially. I do this for everyone, not just subscribers. I started off right here on F95 before I even had a Patreon. I only started Patreon because quite a few people said I should and yeah, I can definitely use the extra cash - especially right now as my wife is now out of a job.
Well, peace everyone... gotta get Last Human coding done so I can get started rendering. And I know you want me working on that as much as possible LOL.
