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Llamaman is consistent and provides regular updates (unlike most devs). That said:

1. My biggest concern is feeling of "free roam" that I got from this reboot/sequel demo. The VN format (with good QoL/UI) worked great with the timeloop story line. Timeloops are complex by nature, adding more "player freedom" via "free roam" might just make it more grindier/frustrating than it needs to be.
2. Of lesser concern is that this reboot/sequel will retread/retrace on already covered storylines.

Time will tell.
On that note, does anyone know what Jackerman is up-to these days or if Mother's Warmth 3 will ever see the light of day?
 
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Sinxflavio2

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I literally hopped in here to ask the same thing...I think its just the tech demo. I don't want or mean to insult Llamaman or his game, I freaking loved the original game but man between the quality of the renders and the models/faces being off...and the ai art in MCs room lol its painful right now.
Yeah, the AI didn't bothered me cuz it's just for decoration and can be overlooked, but the models REALLY REALLY are off, tho i hope he reverts it back to how it was in the previous game or this is just a really really really raw of how he wants the models to look(imo even the back ground in the school is off)
Not a single change was made to any character. you guys are just looking for something to hate on at this point.
Yeah... everyone talking that it's different is just imagining things
 
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Llamamann

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Alright, enough of this shit-filled echo chamber you have going here. Let's address the complaints of the freeloading crybabies:

1. Models are different?!

They are not. They are exactly the same except two (two that have not been noticed, mind you). I adjusted one slider on Bailey's cheeks by 40%. And altered Lexxx's body to a more workable shape, while attempting to keep it as close to the original as possible, then I redid her eyes. So everyone complaining about that can join the idiot list. I'd love to see some side by sides to prove your points.

2. Use of AI

I used AI for background fill. I could have spent weeks working on those posters, but I'm sure the same lot would complain about how long the update took. I also have no way of knowing if the wood grain pattern on MC's floor was AI generated in the asset, or the stock photos in other sets were AI or not. The point is, it doesn't matter, it's not the focus here. If you are that hung up on it, to the point you can’t play the game, please join the morons from point 1 in the dumb dumb room.

3. Render quality is soooo much worse!

Wrong again. Same settings as before, I know, cuz I did them all myself. A few mouth breathers saw some poor quality thumb nails on page 1, and shit their pants. (This is probably how your echo chamber got so full of crap, as stated above). I don't know why that made such an impression, but the quality has not changed in any way since the first game. Again, prove it with side by side images, weird how no one has posted any... You can also sit down a be quiet now.

4. It's a tech demo... you got for free

The entitlement is so outrageous. This was a test of features, story and art concepts made for higher up supporters (those are people who pay money to help fund development, so you can play the game). But I get it, the vocal minority is comprised of the assholes who got banned from the first game's thread, and now have a throbbing, enlarged sense of self worth that they can post there "thoughts" somewhere everyone can see. These haters couldn't stop playing my games even if they wanted to.

5. I saw someone say milking?

Please.

So in conclusion, the people making false statements are objectively wrong. If anyone wants to bring up a constructive concern, please join my discord, I'm there and listening. As much as I didn't want to comment on this shit, it turns out it feels better venting. But I don't plan on responding to anything that comes after this from the aforementioned turds.

Despite your best efforts to suck the fun out of playing a porn game, I know the majority enjoyed this demo.
 
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Falafel33

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Alright, enough of this shit-filled echo chamber you have going here. Let's address the complaints of the freeloading crybabies:

1. Models are different?!

They are not. They are exactly the same except two (two that have not been noticed, mind you). I adjusted one slider on Bailey's cheeks by 40%. And altered Lexxx's body to a more workable shape, while attempting to keep it as close to the original as possible, then I redid her eyes. So everyone complaining about that can join the idiot list. I'd love to see some side by sides to prove your points.

2. Use of AI

I used AI for background fill. I could have spent weeks working on those posters, but I'm sure the same lot would complain about how long the update took. I also have no way of knowing if the wood grain pattern on MC's floor was AI generated in the asset, or the stock photos in other sets were AI or not. The point is, it doesn't matter, it's not the focus here. If you are that hung up on it, to the point you can’t play the game, please join the morons from point 1 in the dumb dumb room.

3. Render quality is soooo much worse!

Wrong again. Same settings as before, I know, cuz I did them all myself. A few mouth breathers saw some poor quality thumb nails on page 1, and shit their pants. (This is probably how your echo chamber got so full of crap, as stated above). I don't know why that made such an impression, but the quality has not changed in any way since the first game. Again, prove it with side by side images, weird how no one has posted any... You can also sit down a be quiet now.

4. It's a tech demo... you got for free

The entitlement is so outrageous. This was a test of features, story and art concepts made for higher up supporters (those are people who pay money to help fund development, so you can play the game). But I get it, the vocal minority is comprised of the assholes who got banned from the first game's thread, and now have a throbbing, enlarged sense of self worth that they can post there "thoughts" somewhere everyone can see. These haters couldn't stop playing my games even if they wanted to.

5. I saw someone say milking?

Please.

So in conclusion, the people making false statements are objectively wrong. If anyone wants to bring up a constructive concern, please join my discord, I'm there and listening. As much as I didn't want to comment on this shit, it turns out it feels better venting. But I don't plan on responding to anything that comes after this from the aforementioned turds.

Despite your best efforts to suck the fun out of playing a porn game, I know the majority enjoyed this demo.
Most of these are good points, and the people complaining about something they got for free are morons, but I simply don’t get why AI is necessary. If you were intent on posters, you could have gotten permission to use art from a real artist. Making them yourself is not the only alternative, but even a lack of posters on the MC’s wall is definitely better than using AI. In my personal opinion, they don’t even look very good, but I can understand if someone would disagree with that.

With that being said, thanks for the great game, but I don’t feel like all criticism levied here is unfounded, just most of it.
 

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Alright, enough of this shit-filled echo chamber you have going here. Let's address the complaints of the freeloading crybabies:
What are you talking about? People here don't agree on anything. That's the opposite of an echo-chamber. Also, I know for a fact, that there are financial supporters in here too, so weak "freeloading" sidejab there. And noone is forcing you to read/participate here.

2. Use of AI

I used AI for background fill. I could have spent weeks working on those posters, but I'm sure the same lot would complain about how long the update took. I also have no way of knowing if the wood grain pattern on MC's floor was AI generated in the asset, or the stock photos in other sets were AI or not. The point is, it doesn't matter, it's not the focus here. If you are that hung up on it, to the point you can’t play the game, please join the morons from point 1 in the dumb dumb room.
If you don't understand how stealing other peoples work for some cheap includes in wrong, I don't know what to tell you. That's just sad. Noone asked to put 1 month of work into bg-posters. Just comission actual artists or don't include those at all. They don't fit the room anyway and make no sense in an universe that has alternate media, that's only in reference to ours (like all the site's having knock-off names).
Also, what do you mean you got no means of knowing if other stuf is AI-Generated? Sure, you can. You can ask, and work with people you trust. That's called due dilligence. That's like saying "I can never be 100% sure if my stuff wasn't made by child-slaves, so why not buy accessories that clearly are." Oo

Anyway great first game. Sad choices on this.

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This right here is peak F95 brain rot, and I'm saving it as a meme: View attachment 4048131
Yeah, taking the single comment that confirms most with your belive is totally not biased. #echo-chamber
 
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Yeah, the AI didn't bothered me cuz it's just for decoration and can be overlooked, but the models REALLY REALLY are off, tho i hope he reverts it back to how it was in the previous game or this is just a really really really raw of how he wants the models to look(imo even the back ground in the school is off)

Yeah... everyone talking that it's different is just imagining things
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Daphne suffered alot with this too, we cant see her freckles anymore, so no, it isn't the same thing as before, it's like the girls skin color is off, their models seems more raw... idk, but i say it's different, before any of you say it, yes i'm no one, yes the dev said it didn't change nothing, but my opinion is that it changed
 

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Well gave this a try it's not bad so far not really bothered about the dev using ai for certain things only thing I wasn't too keen on was the new lexxx model prefer the original though that's just my take will have to see how this goes going forward
 

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Having played through it now, the only little thing I noticed that I didn't like was that Mai's face looked a little weird in a couple of shots right around the eyes. Not a game breaker. The only glitch I got was the duplicate Meiko in the phone screen. I like the new "engine" and the prospect of free roam. AI posters? Don't give a fuck. It's a decoration. Eye candy. IMO, for a tech demo (and the opening of the game), it's pretty sweet. Can't wait for the first chapter to drop.
 
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ok, call me Captain Fucking-Obvious, but am i the only one who suspects SOMETHING is "off" with Mai in this "new" timeline?? she went from short, flat-chested, carrot-bodied, uggo yandere to tall, buxom, school-girl-crush-on-the-MC having, nice girl.....BUT
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AND her "off-looking"
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are making my "pervert senses" scream "WARNING! WARNING! DO NOT STICK YOUR DICK IN CRAZY.....AGAIN!".......
 
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I know, not surprised, just perpetually disappointed. Again, any non-tards can join the discord. It's nice there

Bro, I'm in your discord and some even mentioned it there. I'm also not a freeloader, so I really hope you weren't aiming your last insults at me. I love your work, but there really feels like a quality change between the very end of the first game and the beginning of this one. I really think the models are the same but the shaders and number of quality passes when rendering have been lowered. (Who ever said the models have changed are def wrong.)

It's easy to see that you had more quality passes on your portrait sprites than you did on the scenes. You are a good dev, but you really need to stop taking stuff personal. It'll drive you crazy. Even your biggest fans will have opinions.

I'm attaching two pictures. One is the portrait sprite. One is the scene it's framed on. It's a very noticeable difference.

Once again, I'm not saying this to cause a fight. I'm simply suggesting that you render the scenes with the same shaders and passes as you did with the sprites.

You are a good dev and most of us here are cheering you on. Try to see this a helpful comment instead of an insult.
 
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Honestly, I hope LlamaMan Games explore using AI I2I to apply certain aethtestics to the images.
Using realistic pony merges for example can generate some reasonably photoreaslitic images at low denoising strength values without lossing much detail, since pony understands most of sexual concepts already.
But honestly, more power to using AI in your workflow in general.
 
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