VN Ren'Py Shadows of Ambition [Ch.6.1] [AbyssGames]

[I Love Ass]

Hi guys,



I've started working on the second scene of the update this week. I've built most of the background scenes and now it's just producing art/editing/photoshopping for a lot of these.



I'm really trying to make every scene be more impactful and longer, so it doesn't feel like the player is jumping around from place to place. Also I'm trying to include more renders per line of dialogue. Things are going well and I expect things to pick up speed. The first scene is always the slowest and takes the most time as I get back into the flow of things.



The first scene has around 6 different choices spread though the scene, depending on how you want to react to certain things or depending if you want to do a certain thing or not. There are 5 more scenes left to write/render, but depending on your choices throughout the chapter, you might not see a certain scene.



The VA has given me some really nice SFX to use and I plan to give her more work for this Chapter. I was able to update my animation workflow a bit more this week as well and I'm pretty content with it for now. The animator is also working on an animation as we speak.



There's still a lot that needs to be done, but I'm working as hard as I can to bring you the next Chapter of Shadows of Ambition as soon as possible. I have big hopes for this Chapter and in my personal opinion, at least from a visual perspective, this Chapter has been quite a step-up.

It's made me really excited just to see how far I can push myself.



That being said, I hope I can finish most of the work of the second scene by next week, so that I can start working on scene 3 & 4.



As always, thanks for your support. I'll see you again next week for a new dev update.



Much love,

-AbyssGame

 

[Harmonyrose]

i hope these choices don't lead to multi branching

 

[lucknut123]

if this and my new girlfriend new update comes up at the same times, that would be the best event of 2025, hands down

 

[Zobra]

Is not just the fact that Alice chooses Kate's brother (Milo) for the Ooglefans debut

knowing the Update is near , i paused the Story at beach , so can you explain that line to me ? the choice was already made ? i just don't like that character , i'll feel more comfortable if it was Luke or even Liam [this might look similar to mngf when someone come from nowhere and get to have the first honor (edited later on with balls s*cking or whatever the F* that is)]

 

[Ricthequick]

knowing the Update is near , i paused the Story at beach , so can you explain that line to me ? the choice was already made ? i just don't like that character , i'll feel more comfortable if it was Luke or even Liam [this might look similar to mngf when someone come from nowhere and get to have the first honor (edited later on with balls s*cking or whatever the F* that is)]

I'll put everything under spoiler, but also wanted to point out that the reason I mentioned it is not because I don't like the idea of the characters to interact, but because is yet another case of something "forced" on someone directly related to Kate.

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EDIT: and just to be 100% clear I don't think it's too early for Alice to have actual sex with someone else, quite the contrary, considering Luke already has 2 sex scene by the end of this update BEFORE Alice had a chance to have one fo her own.
The stuff I was complaining about wasn't related to the kink side of things, or who my fav characters/LI are, but to how the story/mistery (step-mom, drug, Oogle corp, etc...) is set up in a way that portrays Luke as very submissive person (read: taken advantage of), while he's presented differently in the kinky scenes.

 

[Harted]

I don't understand the complains about Milo character, he's just a bit arrogant, there is no feeling with Alice its just sex, i like it like it is personally. And it can be a good set-up for future things with Luke and Kate. Also we saw Liam alot already, let the dev cook with a new character i know he'll do it well.

 

[Ricthequick]

I don't understand the complains about Milo character, he's just a bit arrogant, there is no feeling with Alice its just sex, i like it like it is personally. And it can be a good set-up for future things with Luke and Kate.

I personally have nothing against the character on its own, my whole earlier tirade (and I swear I'll drop it sorry ) was about convenient plot devices that, to me personally, stick out like a sore thumb.

 

[Mori91]

whatevs it is i want stories to progress and more stories better than we get delayed and people complain for random stuff.
so i must say let the dev cook.

 

[Zobra]

because is yet another case of something "forced" on someone directly related to Kate.

i don't like this forced plot either , but from what i saw Alice basically IS the one who want to do it with him ? her "own desire" she said , so she is the one who is trying to find a way to convince Luke ? any specific reason why ? Related to that Club event/drug ? sorry but i feel something missing here , i'm so confuse (i'm more intrigued to play now but i'll have to wait for Ch7 ).
well , Alice will gladly allow her man to have fun with kate anyway

I don't think it's too early for Alice to have actual sex with someone else

it not about sex as some might assume , we all want to see another D inside her , but it how it done and with who (i still prefer if there is an option to switch to Luke/Liam , if not then i have no choice but to use skip button , i don't feel comfortable seen her with milo) , and yes , i agree , i I don't think it's too early for her.

I don't understand the complains about Milo character

you don't have to understand ... does it matter what others think about a specific character ? in my "fantasy world which ... won't happen" i want to cuck him instead ...
Edit:Spoilers?

 

[Ricthequick]

i don't like this forced plot either , but from what i saw Alice basically IS the one who want to do it with him ? her "own desire" she said , so she is the one who is trying to find a way to convince Luke ? any specific reason why ? Related to that Club event/drug ? sorry but i feel something missing here , i'm so confuse (i'm more intrigued to play now but i'll have to wait for Ch7 ).
well , Alice will gladly allow her man to have fun with kate anyway

When I use "forced" I don't mean in-game, for example I have no problem accepting Kate is the dominant one in the interactions with Luke, it can make sense if the story needs an actual dominant figure (and it does).

I'm mostly referring to the fact that from a story perspective, Luke is already forced to interact with Kate to see the background story progress (and this is fine), adding another forced interaction (Alice-Milo-Luke-Kate) that leads the story in the same direction feels superfluous and is something that tends to break immersion, because the reader can see the "puppet strings".

That said I promised the dev I wouldn't pester his thread anymore with this, and instead I did it again, sorry it's professional deformation, but I'll shut my trap.

 

[Zobra]

When I use "forced" I don't mean in-game, for example I have no problem accepting Kate is the dominant one in the interactions with Luke, it can make sense if the story needs an actual dominant figure (and it does).

My main reply wasn't about Kate , it fine to have a character with a Dominant attitude (to spice up things) , not against it as long MC doesn't act in a pathetic/stupid way , i'd love to see him break her (she has a weak spot only milo knows about it , if someone knows , don't tell )

tho i just want to know that "own desire" where coming from & why she SHOOSE him instead of someone fun like Liam ? (sorry , i have this habit focusing on small details) , maybe Ch7 will be kind to reveal it.
(it won't change my Opinion of skipping the scene with milo if it was inevitable)
and yes , i want to see Liam A LOT , not everyday you see a cool black dude in nts game. (last line wasn't for you bro).

 

[Ricthequick]

tho i just want to know that "own desire" where coming from & why she SHOOSE him instead

There's no other reasons besides him being a plot device, he's related to Kate, who is a main driving force for the main background story to progress, so he's part of that "push" too.

Some characters are used for the lewd progression (Liam, Seth, Sophie, or Andrea), others for the main stroyline progression (Kate and Milo are a perfect example), it would have been better if the main "lewd male antagonist" wasn't also the one related to the main "non-lewd" story, but again personal opinion and the AVN is still good.

 

[Zobra]

There's no other reasons besides him being a plot device....

makes sense , still doesn't answer why SHE want him , Luke himself suggested to do it with someone else

The phone conversation you showed before can you tell me the timeline which one was first? Alice with Luke or with Kate?
coz if it was with Luke first it will make zero sense other than "she desires to be with him" which also looks weird (with Liam is Understandable) , if with kate first then i smell info-blackmail (related to main stroyline??)

i'm enjoying this chit-chat , Sorry to bother you again

 

[Ricthequick]

makes sense , still doesn't answer why SHE want him , Luke himself suggested to do it with someone else

The phone conversation you showed before can you tell me the timeline which one was first? Alice with Luke or with Kate?
coz if it was with Luke first it will make zero sense other than "she desires to be with him" which also looks weird (with Liam is Understandable) , if with kate first then i smell info-blackmail (related to main stroyline??)

i'm enjoying this chit-chat , Sorry to bother you again

The 2 images are in the order I linked, and come after the events I listed above.

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[Zobra]

Kate is convinced that Luke doesn't want to allow Alice doing the scene so she promises her that she will make sure Luke changes idea

the more i know the more i get confused & regret knowing ... sounds weird ? so it her choice to do it with milo after all ? almost looks like she's the one doing the blackmail , to achieve "her desires" (become a po*nstar?) or whatever that means and just from a HJ BJ with zero connection with that character...well...since when P*rn have logic , right ?....
added line: oh wait .... smitten ? am i sensing Trio drama ? a way to f*ck her "potential" secret new lover ? or just a speculation of yours ?

anyway , too much credits for someone i don't like (don't ask why) ... i better stop ... i'll wait for Ch7 coz i'm lost

 

[Ricthequick]

the more i know the more i get confused & regret knowing ... sounds weird ? so it her choice to do it with milo after all ? almost looks like she's the one doing the blackmail , to achieve "her desires" (become a po*nstar?) or whatever that means and just from a HJ BJ with zero connection with that character...well...since when P*rn have logic , right ?....
added line: oh wait .... smitten ? am i sensing Trio drama ? a way to f*ck her "potential" secret new lover ? or just a speculation of yours ?

anyway , too much credits for someone i don't like (don't ask why) ... i better stop ... i'll wait for Ch7 coz i'm lost

Play it to the current end and you can make up your own mind, all I can say is that the author until now showed us that Alice's favourite male LI (outside of Luke) is Milo, while at the same time also being the least favourite for Luke.

Now there's no NTR or cheating in the AVN (and also in this case Alice and Luke already agreed on it), so if I had to guess what might happen is that someone, Kate or another plot relevant character, will make so the Ooglefans scene won't be filmed by Luke either, he'll find himself busy doing something/someone else .

Likewise Milo is here to stay, he'll have more scenes and not just lewd ones, but also some twist or further unveiled secret that makes him more relevant (rather than just being Kates lil bro) on that side of things.

 

[gaga123310]

Ricthequick Hello there. After reading your comment, I still couldn't understand what you're talking about - at what exact point in time does the author tell us that Milo is Alice's favorite man (besides Luke)? The reason why Luke doesn't like Milo is obvious and understandable - Milo literally harassed his girlfriend in a nightclub while under the influence of drugs. However, as many players have mentioned, it's unclear why: 1. Alice let herself be groped at the club, and immediately after the "work" of the drugs, she didn't want "her beloved" Luke, but some unknown Milo. 2. Even after what happened at the club, Alice herself wanted to shoot for Ooglefans with Milo, who, again, drugged her and harassed her in front of her boyfriend.
And here are two answers: 1. Either the author has not yet reached the point to explain to us why Alice chose Milo after all, and in principle allowed him to harass in the club. 2. Either the author decided to skip this piece of the plot, which of course breaks the logic of the narrative. Perhaps after all in the game there is a passage in which the author explains to us, as you put it, why Alice likes Milo, but I, alas, did not find it in my 2 playthroughs. I would be very grateful if you could tell me where the author mentions this.
Have a nice day

 

[Ricthequick]

Ricthequick Hello there. After reading your comment, I still couldn't understand what you're talking about - at what exact point in time does the author tell us that Milo is Alice's favorite man (besides Luke)? The reason why Luke doesn't like Milo is obvious and understandable - Milo literally harassed his girlfriend in a nightclub while under the influence of drugs. However, as many players have mentioned, it's unclear why: 1. Alice let herself be groped at the club, and immediately after the "work" of the drugs, she didn't want "her beloved" Luke, but some unknown Milo. 2. Even after what happened at the club, Alice herself wanted to shoot for Ooglefans with Milo, who, again, drugged her and harassed her in front of her boyfriend.
And here are two answers: 1. Either the author has not yet reached the point to explain to us why Alice chose Milo after all, and in principle allowed him to harass in the club. 2. Either the author decided to skip this piece of the plot, which of course breaks the logic of the narrative. Perhaps after all in the game there is a passage in which the author explains to us, as you put it, why Alice likes Milo, but I, alas, did not find it in my 2 playthroughs. I would be very grateful if you could tell me where the author mentions this.
Have a nice day

Authors tell things via their stories, dialogues, renders, etc... you just described what I meant by "the author showed us", at the moment there's no explicit reason for Alice to jump on Milo at the club as soon as the drug takes effect (she doesn't even look at Luke, until she gets flustered), there's also no explicit reason for her to pick Milo over Luke or Liam for the Ooglefans shot, to the point of writing it to both Luke and Kate.
So what we can assume is that she finds him attractive, more than the other male LIs (Liam and Seth), to the point of turning down the scene with Luke, despite being relatively clear that Luke would prefer himself or Liam.
That goes back to what I kept repeating, Milo's a plot device that (for me) sticks out like a sore thumb, there are of course story reasons some will probably be explained in the next episode, and one has been already made clear, Alice interacting with Milo is yet another plot device to move the background story forward, since he's Kate's brother, so that IS the reason.

EDIT: if you folks want to discuss this further with me, please don't tag me in here, just send me a message, I have already "polluted" this thread long enough, sorry to everyone, mostly to the devs.

 

[Zobra]

Milo literally harassed his girlfriend in a nightclub while under the influence of drugs

Thank you , you understood me , tho idk your opinion about milo but this Character didn't click for me from the moment he met Luke , then i was so sure of that after what happens in the club later on , they both know about the Drug and what it does to ppl's minds , yet they use it to harass both (Alice & Luke) , at that moment i was begging Luke (literally in my F* mind , you can laugh) to grab his girl that forget his existence and get the f*ck out of there and never allow her to get near him ever again , yet her we're , her first penetration? & with him? & on camera? while obviously Luke was not okay with it coz somehow it didn't feel right but he respected her chity (imo) choice (he might even not be there to make her feel safe?)

anyway , if there is no logical explanation for that i'm out of this chit coz i hate that guy [Too much hype for Ch7 (maybe another copy of hate-f*ck reclaim BS later on like mngf ? why not ? they both in Por*who*e path anyway) , game has choices that does not affect the story from what i heard so my hope is that one of them related to that OF scene]

 

[AbyssGames]

Authors tell things via their stories, dialogues, renders, etc... you just described what I meant by "the author showed us", at the moment there's no explicit reason for Alice to jump on Milo at the club as soon as the drug takes effect (she doesn't even look at Luke, until she gets flustered), there's also no explicit reason for her to pick Milo over Luke or Liam for the Ooglefans shot, to the point of writing it to both Luke and Kate.
So what we can assume is that she finds him attractive, more than the other male LIs (Liam and Seth), to the point of turning down the scene with Luke, despite being relatively clear that Luke would prefer himself or Liam.
That goes back to what I kept repeating, Milo's a plot device that (for me) sticks out like a sore thumb, there are of course story reasons some will probably be explained in the next episode, and one has been already made clear, Alice interacting with Milo is yet another plot device to move the background story forward, since he's Kate's brother, so that IS the reason.

EDIT: if you folks want to discuss this further with me, please don't tag me in here, just send me a message, I have already "polluted" this thread long enough, sorry to everyone, mostly to the devs.

Thank you , you understood me , tho idk your opinion about milo but this Character didn't click for me from the moment he met Luke , then i was so sure of that after what happens in the club later on , they both know about the Drug and what it does to ppl's minds , yet they use it to harass both (Alice & Luke) , at that moment i was begging Luke (literally in my F* mind , you can laugh) to grab his girl that forget his existence and get the f*ck out of there and never allow her to get near him ever again , yet her we're , her first penetration? & with him? & on camera? while obviously Luke was not okay with it coz somehow it didn't feel right but he respected her chity (imo) choice (he might even not be there to make her feel safe?)

anyway , if there is no logical explanation for that i'm out of this chit coz i hate that guy [Too much hype for Ch7 (maybe another copy of hate-f*ck reclaim BS later on like mngf ? why not ? they both in Por*who*e path anyway) , game has choices that does not affect the story from what i heard so my hope is that one of them related to that OF scene]

You're free to discuss your thoughts on what's happening, I love seeing the things you come up with! .

I personally like being strung/pushed into a certain direction by an author's vision, just to see twists and turns come up that I didn't predict. That's what I'm trying to do as well, what that means in this scenario, I can't say without spoilers. Let's just say Chapter 7 will answer a lot of questions, but create also create more mystery and suspense.

The theme of this chapter is: Not everything is what it seems.