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I had updated this previously if I remember correctly, I am not subbed right now. But it's only useful for teasers and extra content as the dev changes the download links frequently.
Hopefully a Saviour comes on a lower tier
I think there is nothing wrong with RPGM if this was a completely free roam sandbox RPG, but instead it is a Linear Visual Novel (and RPGM can make VNs, dev just chose RPG gameplay) (and linear as in, once you choose a path you can't change afaik).
The idea of the game was just not compatible with the gameplay, which made it feel slower than it should be. Way too many pauses, useless repetitive walking segments, slow transitions, slow minigames, likelihood of random bugs.
I haven't played the unofficial port so when the update comes out it will be my first time trying out the engine change.
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I never write RPGMaker is bad. But for this type game was useless and annoying. RPGM is not good for visual novel compared to ren'py, but if you have MZ instead MV, then yes because there is plugin what add ren'py functions.
RPGM is fine if Shamantr just takes his time and implement the in game system. Like make money and items really mean something to the story. But Shamantr is to focus on separate route and not the in game. Also won't streamline everything to a main plot, the entire game becomes messy and in game gets forgotten. That why everyone lean in on REN PY. The in game mechanics doesn't hold any impact, why add it. The three route is too drastically different. No connection. Money, item and choices has no connection. No main goal. Kills the entire in game mechanics.
i unironically liked the free roam, especially in the blackmail route. it always feels like you can miss out on something, which adds to the main theme, you know. too bad they moved to ren'py, now it will be just ctrl jumping straight to h-scenes "game" for the vast majority of players. personally to me ntr visual novels feel like just observing someone getting ntred, so it's ntr squared, but with a minus, i think. i neither feel like i play the game nor i can immerse myself in the story as a participant, really. but i guess it's just me, since practically everyone's happy with this change.
I'm sure there's a way to do it in RPGM but the down time in the current format is insane. It's way too much of a chore for a porn game.
bro, those are called "porn games" not "powerpoint porn presentations". how can you call a piece of software "a game" if it won't even let you take a minimal interaction apart from making a single choice to select one of three major routes? why even bother learning coding and tinkering with game engines if people see walking from scene to scene as a chore?
It's just there for the sake of it, you have to follow the walkthrough to get content you want. It's just the same thing with extra steps but the extra steps are independent of what's happening. That is why it is a chore, there is no connection between gameplay and story. Again, if it was a true free roam RPG, that would be fine, but the gameplay is linear once you choose a path.
I agree that Ren'Py lacks elements of gameplay in its default state, hopefully dev is able to make it palatable.
Compare the "interactive" aspect of this and something like Karryn's Prison, it's completely possible to make a good game centered around porn and not have it be a clickfest with zero stakes. The major criticism with Shadows of Desire has always been that the dev planned out a ren'py VN then made it in RPGM for no apparent reason.