RPGM Ren'Py Shadows of Desire [v0.5 T2] [Shamantr]

[Doshima]

Dev is too ambitious in this update and add category outside the NTR like one known as "SWINGING." meaning couples are okay with having consensual sex with others. This is not really cuckold, its open relationship. There is also other category such as gangbang, prostituting, incest, multiple protagonist, multiple antagonist, and even blackmail. It become too messy and the original plot is lost. It almost feels like a completely different game to be honest.

How can it be swinging if Cami never gave her approval to Fred to sleep with any other girl that's not her . Ask the uploaders why they put the swinging tag in the thread, Shaman didn't put the tag.

 

[ktez]

anyone have a save after the locked in the locker tease scene? cheating route

 

[ahoboman]

How can it be swinging if Cami never gave her approval to Fred to sleep with any other girl that's not her . Ask the uploaders why they put the swinging tag in the thread, Shaman didn't put the tag.

You didn't read my previous quote. I said it hinted at and seems like its headed that way. Whether ShamtDev goes that way is still to be seen, but it clearly has swinging elements. She and Fred isn't sleeping around yet, but it is clear when the massage scene happened, Fred allow Camilla to be grope and kissed by the masseuse. He then allow Junior to grope, have his penis in front of her face, and vaginal finger fuck. Camilla allow Fred to be sit on by the girl masseuse and gives him a handy job. These are all sex fore play. It defiantly fits swinging aka sharing their other significant. But its defiantly not cuckold tho or doesn't feel like it.

 

[Doshima]

You didn't read my previous quote. I said it hinted at and seems like its headed that way. Whether ShamtDev goes that way is still to be seen, but it clearly has swinging elements. She and Fred isn't sleeping around yet, but it is clear when the massage scene happened, Fred allow Camilla to be grope and kissed by the masseuse. He then allow Junior to grope, have his penis in front of her face, and vaginal finger fuck. Camilla allow Fred to be sit on by the girl masseuse and gives him a handy job. These are all sex fore play. It defiantly fits swinging aka sharing their other significant. But its defiantly not cuckold tho or doesn't feel like it.

Man forgot they had to do that to pay the debt of the card game Fred lost . They didn't want to do it, they HAD to do it. Fred also lost the hard massage game because he got hard, Cami got mad at him, owner of SSS Club appeared and offered them to go to THE CUCK house where bulls pay to fuck engaged women so they can pay the debt and also win money to PAY FOR CAMI'S MOTHER TREATMENT.
Jason made the best offer, BOTH OF THEM ACCEPTED THE OFFER, he went inside, Fred discovered Jason is the bull that made the offer, Cami remembered what Fred told her about Jason wanting to be friends with him just to be with her. Cami had no other choice so she fucked Jason in presence of Fred (Fred is being CUCKED)

 

[Dogorti]

Why is Fred pregnant? Bad writing

 

[ahoboman]

Man forgot they had to do that to pay the debt of the card game Fred lost . They didn't want to do it, they HAD to do it. Fred also lost the hard massage game because he got hard, Cami got mad at him, owner of SSS Club appeared and offered them to go to THE CUCK house where bulls pay to fuck engaged women so they can pay the debt and also win money to PAY FOR CAMI'S MOTHER TREATMENT.
Jason made the best offer, BOTH OF THEM ACCEPTED THE OFFER, he went inside, Fred discovered Jason is the bull that made the offer, Cami remembered what Fred told her about Jason wanting to be friends with him just to be with her. Cami had no other choice so she fucked Jason in presence of Fred (Fred is being CUCKED)

Bro... you can say they didn't want to do it all you want, they needed money, or were kind of force into it due to their plight, the point is that they ended up consenting into having sexual experiences together with others. That is swinging genre. It doesn't what matter what triggers it. It can be partying, taking drugs, peer pressure, sexual desire, plights, curiosity, or even plot, once consent is given, and they have sexual experiences with other in front of each other, it becomes swinging.

It be one thing if Fred didn't want to do the massage scene and Camilla went through it anyways for the money with or without Fred, then that be cucked. Or if there was some kind competition at the beach and the winner gets Camilla; with Fred loses and Camilla leaves with the winner, or without Fred refuses to compete but Camilla decided anyways to leave with the winner, that too would be cucked.

Look... I love this series. It one my favorite NTR game. And respect to SHAMANDEV but come on this update was really bad. No disrespect to you either MODDER. Once my new computers parts get here, I am venturing to learning more blender and DAZ 3D. Hopefully you will like my works.

 

[Gladiatore]

Great game with great potential but in my opinion the DEV should merge the game RPGM chapter 1 - 4 in Ren'py because those who play this game for the first time must first play in RPGM to understand something and it is too dispersive. The renders of the RPGM Chapter 1 -4 are already done that only need to be transported to Renpy.

 

[Dant3lion]

Great game with great potential but in my opinion the DEV should merge the game RPGM chapter 1 - 4 in Ren'py because those who play this game for the first time must first play in RPGM to understand something and it is too dispersive. The renders of the RPGM Chapter 1 -4 are already done that only need to be transported to Renpy.

You can try Renpy port by Doshima)) If ShamanDev will start to port chapters 1-4, it'll take much time for that (if we talk about a good game, Doshima's port is more like a visual novel). I think that nobody want to wait 2+ months for new update. Maybe dev will merge them when he would finish the game.
I hope that dev will continue to develop game and will expand every route beyond the main story line in future.

 

[John Doe Jr.]

This was the perfect time to finally have Fred admit to Cami he likes watching her get fucked and for them to talk about it. How do you not do that smh

 

[Dant3lion]

Bro... you can say they didn't want to do it all you want, they needed money, or were kind of force into it due to their plight, the point is that they ended up consenting into having sexual experiences together with others. That is swinging genre. It doesn't what matter what triggers it. It can be partying, taking drugs, peer pressure, sexual desire, plights, curiosity, or even plot, once consent is given, and they have sexual experiences with other in front of each other, it becomes swinging.

It be one thing if Fred didn't want to do the massage scene and Camilla went through it anyways for the money with or without Fred, then that be cucked. Or if there was some kind competition at the beach and the winner gets Camilla; with Fred loses and Camilla leaves with the winner, or without Fred refuses to compete but Camilla decided anyways to leave with the winner, that too would be cucked.

Look... I love this series. It one my favorite NTR game. And respect to SHAMANDEV but come on this update was really bad. No disrespect to you either MODDER. Once my new computers parts get here, I am venturing to learning more blender and DAZ 3D. Hopefully you will like my works.

Swinging is a consensual act, when both of partners agree with swing without pressure on them by force, circumstances and obligations. Cuckolding is quite similar swinging, but more similar to bdsm themes with submission. As for current update, it's far from swinging because the situation is not Fred's desire - he is a weak person which was bullied for a long time by blacks.

 

[MyUserName1234]

OOhh, and I'm wondering why the game feels heavy(my pc has 32gigs ram and a 4080). You are absolutely right.

ShamanDEV, you better replace these with scene, man. Otherwise the game starts to get too heavy after some point and slowing down/starts lagging.

Holy shit, that is why this game runs like CRAP. I can't believe everyone isn't complaining about it.

 

[zelaf44]

Part 1-4 doesn't have a gallery?

yes

 

[ahoboman]

Swinging is a consensual act, when both of partners agree with swing without pressure on them by force, circumstances and obligations. Cuckolding is quite similar swinging, but more similar to bdsm themes with submission. As for current update, it's far from swinging because the situation is not Fred's desire - he is a weak person which was bullied for a long time by blacks.

I will have to disagree with you there. Swinging is just consensual straight act of sharing partners regardless of anything. Because there is something called "convincing" and/or "presuasion" of the other partner. What? You think two partners just up and decided read each other minds start banging others in front each other? Something has to trigger it. Maybe MC is a harem. Maybe main girl is a hidden slut. Maybe its their kink? Maybe their both are drunk or high. Maybe they need money and sell each other off.

And this is beyond just the two as the villain can also manipulate the MC or main girl into wanting to swing. Maybe the MC wants the villain's girl and trade the main girl to have a night with her. Maybe the villain wants the main girl and try to steal her by using the villain girl to make MC get into the swinging. There can also be side character like jealous friends, rivals, or if you wanna go incest families who convince, manipulate, and get MC and main girl in swinging. So no I disagree with you when it comes no outside force contributing. Swinging is swinging. Sex is sex.

 

[Dant3lion]

I will have to disagree with you there. Swinging is just consensual straight act of sharing partners regardless of anything. Because there is something called "convincing" and/or "presuasion" of the other partner. What? You think two partners just up and decided read each other minds start banging others in front each other? Something has to trigger it. Maybe MC is a harem. Maybe main girl is a hidden slut. Maybe its their kink? Maybe their both are drunk or high. Maybe they need money and sell each other off.

And this is beyond just the two as the villain can also manipulate the MC or main girl into wanting to swing. Maybe the MC wants the villain's girl and trade the main girl to have a night with her. Maybe the villain wants the main girl and try to steal her by using the villain girl to make MC get into the swinging. There can also be side character like jealous friends, rivals, or if you wanna go incest families who convince, manipulate, and get MC and main girl in swinging. So no I disagree with you when it comes no outside force contributing. Swinging is swinging. Sex is sex.

If MC is a harem? What that is meaning? Harem means a lot of partners for one person, partners have relationships with one person...
If main girl is slut it doesn't mean that her partner agree with that. It's illogical (why people divorce after cheating in that logic???).
Any intoxication affects on our behaviour, but this condition doesn't mean that intoxicated person consensually agrees with everything. If somebody will fuck your partner on party, this doesn't guarantee that you or your partner are consent to swing - it's more similar to cheating or rape.
As for money, MC isn't really happy about the situation. Yes, MCs are manipulated to this ending (because female one is kinda slutty, when male one is strongly bullied before by antagonists), but it's not swinging - it's a kind of sexual abuse (implied consent). MCs don't come to idea of sharing partners by themselves, they were manipulated by different methods to achieve this point of life.
Step by step personality of male MC is being degradated. As for female MC, it's more difficult to conclude - her consent depends on route ( and it's getting worse for male MC because female loves sex while her partner is not gifted at all...).

 

[Cryptist]

Why did this turn into Jason searching for Where In The World Is Camilla San Diego?

This is nothing but frustrating bullshit. Too much time wasted without Cuckold.

 

[Elmando2017]

hello guys wonder if someone can help me
i've been playing the new ren'py version (chapter 5) and it's been nice and all but i seem to be stuck at some point and i don't know how to progress further in the game iam stuck at the part which jason goes to see camilla at fred's house i peep through the window and i don't find her then jason says could she be somewhere else then i can't seem to find her anywhere and iam just stuck going to every place on the map doing nothing

 

[Dant3lion]

hello guys wonder if someone can help me
i've been playing the new ren'py version (chapter 5) and it's been nice and all but i seem to be stuck at some point and i don't know how to progress further in the game iam stuck at the part which jason goes to see camilla at fred's house i peep through the window and i don't find her then jason says could she be somewhere else then i can't seem to find her anywhere and iam just stuck going to every place on the map doing nothing

try to go to the night club and tap on bottom of screen to go to the main room.

 

[ahoboman]

If MC is a harem? What that is meaning? Harem means a lot of partners for one person, partners have relationships with one person...
If main girl is slut it doesn't mean that her partner agree with that. It's illogical (why people divorce after cheating in that logic???).
Any intoxication affects on our behaviour, but this condition doesn't mean that intoxicated person consensually agrees with everything. If somebody will fuck your partner on party, this doesn't guarantee that you or your partner are consent to swing - it's more similar to cheating or rape.
As for money, MC isn't really happy about the situation. Yes, MCs are manipulated to this ending (because female one is kinda slutty, when male one is strongly bullied before by antagonists), but it's not swinging - it's a kind of sexual abuse (implied consent). MCs don't come to idea of sharing partners by themselves, they were manipulated by different methods to achieve this point of life.
Step by step personality of male MC is being degradated. As for female MC, it's more difficult to conclude - her consent depends on route ( and it's getting worse for male MC because female loves sex while her partner is not gifted at all...).

I am not saying the being something immediately mean its swinging. It opens up the possibility for swinging or to write swinging. Because the idea of swinging need to began from somewhere. The root. It can easily turn into cheating, cuckold, corruption, gang bang or anything else sexual for that matter. Only thing I disagree with you is that swinging simply means sharing your partner with others while other share theirs with yours regardless of anything.

Let start with Harem. Lets say MC is... or wants to be a harem. He would want to bang lot of girls and have them around main girl. This does not mean that main girl is okay with this. MC propose a lets swing idea. I get to bang girls I bring around, you get to bang guys you bring around. Let all be friends vice versa. Terrible writing? Maybe? Unrealistic? Most likely. But hot AF for NTR games? 100%. Boring? Very likely.

If main girl is a slut in a relationship, she is not gonna disclose this with MC. At least no real girl in a dating scene would disclose that they are a slut to their partner fiction or not. Main girl would wanna try other dicks. I mean she is a slut after all. Thus the potential is limitless to write. The idea of swinging would be propose by the slut. Terrible writing? Maybe? Unrealistic? Most likely. But hot AF for NTR games? 100%. Boring? Very likely.

Drug is usually the gate way to all kind of sexual degenerate stuff. Like you say it doesn't mean that the consent real. But it can also means that the consent is indeed real. It goes both was. But the good thing is the writer get to choose which way it goes. Mc and main girl gets drunk and high, discover what they missing in their life, desire, lust etc. Terrible writing? Maybe? Unrealistic? Most likely. But hot AF for NTR games? 100%. Boring? Very likely.

Money is just simply pay to bang MC girl, and MC to bang his girl. Simple and straight to the point. Probably happens in real life more than we care to believe. and the most realistic. 100% boring writing.

But as for this game, this update route is not really cuckold. The MC is not really getting cucked. I mean there is elements here and there but it over shadow hints of swinging (massage scene), prostitutions (only fan and club), incest, hopefully I am wrong (Jason mother and sister), and gang bang (gang members), and a bunch random other stuff. MC did finally get cucked at the end but there was no build up and it didn't feel like it because main girl didn't enjoy it.

Anyways agree to disagree. Love this series, but I think I need to start my own series.

 

[Dant3lion]

I am not saying the being something immediately mean its swinging. It opens up the possibility for swinging or to write swinging. Because the idea of swinging need to began from somewhere. The root. It can easily turn into cheating, cuckold, corruption, gang bang or anything else sexual for that matter. Only thing I disagree with you is that swinging simply means sharing your partner with others while other share theirs with yours regardless of anything.

Let start with Harem. Lets say MC is... or wants to be a harem. He would want to bang lot of girls and have them around main girl. This does not mean that main girl is not okay with this. MC propose a lets swing idea. I get to bang girls I bring around, you get to bang guys you bring around. Let all be friends vice versa. Terrible writing? Maybe? Unrealistic? Most likely. But hot AF for NTR games? 100%. Boring? Very likely.

If main girl is a slut in a relationship, she is not gonna disclose this with MC. At least no real girl in a dating scene would disclose that they are a slut to their partner fiction or not. Main girl would wanna try other dicks. I mean she is a slut after all. Thus the potential is limitless to write. The idea of swinging would be propose by the slut. Terrible writing? Maybe? Unrealistic? Most likely. But hot AF for NTR games? 100%. Boring? Very likely.

Drug is usually the gate way to all kind of sexual degenerate stuff. Like you say it doesn't mean that the consent real. But it can also means that the consent is indeed real. It goes both was. But the good thing is the writer get to choose which way it goes. Mc and main girl gets drunk and high, discover what they missing in their life, desire, lust etc. Terrible writing? Maybe? Unrealistic? Most likely. But hot AF for NTR games? 100%. Boring? Very likely.

Money is just simply pay to bang MC girl, and MC to bang his girl. Simple and straight to the point. Probably happens in real life more than we care to believe. and the most realistic. 100% boring writing.

But as for this game, this update route is not really cuckold. The MC is not really getting cucked. I mean there is elements here and there but it over shadow hints of swinging (massage scene), prostitutions (only fan and club), incest, hopefully I am wrong (Jason mother and sister), and gang bang (gang members), and a bunch random other stuff. MC did finally get cucked at the end but there was no build up and it didn't feel like it because main girl didn't enjoy it.

Anyways agree to disagree. Love this series, but I think I need to start my own series.

I admit your point of view in a way (unfortunately except harem description, it looks like open relationship, because harem owners hardly like to share), but must say that this is discussion about possible future. We don't know what dev will make with every route in future updates. Now these thesises are more like suppositions then anything other.

As for current version, I can believe at swinging mostly for minor characters))

I hope you'll make a game that both you and future players will like. Bon voyage)))

 

[Detpot Chalott]

anyone have save about tier III extra scene ?