HTML Shady Deals [v0.5.4] [Kroo]

[Terakahn]

You just straight up get more action points - that's it. The cost of actions stays the same.
Also, I forgot - upgrading the gym in your house increases your max energy too. Aaand the "Crime Legend" boss type gives you 4 additional stamina points. So yeah...

As for heat """hint""" - just trigger your first heat event and you'll unlock a new job. And this job will help you a lot with heat control. I’ve rewritten this hint in the next version; it was indeed a quite unclear.

1. Raise your relationship with them, then ask them to assist you.
2. You'll find a character who buys gold bars in your nightclub once it's popular enough.

Thanks! Well, turf war is currently the weakest part of the game, but I hope to improve it soon.

In the meantime, v0.5 is out on patreon, if anyone's interested.

I got impatient and subbed to your patreon because the 0.5 stuff looked like a lot of fun. So I'll report back on how it goes on a new playthrough. Part of me wanted to also explore what happens when heat gets too high so I want to test that out too. i'll edit this post, reply again if it's not the newest comment here.

I made way way too many notes so I'm gonna have to edit this down lol.

OK I'll post what felt like bugs first. I say what felt like, because they could just be unfinished or done this way on purpose.

Bugs?:

-If you try to buy from a dealer and have no money the items are free.

-Seems like rep won't go lower than -100, maybe that's on purpose? I was curious if there would be a lower limit event.

-Bank gave me an emergency bank loan when I ran out of money. I spent it and got another loan but I only owe 1200 total. Also it said there would be consequences if I didn't pay it back but nothing happened.

-when you try to go out and have no clothes it duplicates copies of your other clothes.

-I recorded the blackmail video. Says daily income from it is Nan. If I post and sleep, it changes my money to NaN.

-When you get caught stealing from a warehouse, the end text says they'll escort you "ouf of warehouse"

-I can't tell if it's just me now, but the cum shot still won't show. Says "no video with supported format and mime type found". Maybe it's because I'm on Android Firefox and it's a weird media type? After playing long enough it seems like most of them show. I'm not sure which ones don't. It's only ever the invite over scenes.

-removing a gang position doesn't close menu, or change anything unless you exit contacts

Turf war seems to have some issues too but I suspect it's just not done yet.

 

[Kroo]

-If you try to buy from a dealer and have no money the items are free.

Bug.

-Seems like rep won't go lower than -100, maybe that's on purpose? I was curious if there would be a lower limit event.

That's intended.

-Bank gave me an emergency bank loan when I ran out of money. I spent it and got another loan but I only owe 1200 total. Also it said there would be consequences if I didn't pay it back but nothing happened.

Bug. You’re supposed to lose reputation if you fail to pay it back.

-when you try to go out and have no clothes it duplicates copies of your other clothes.

That’s intentional. The game warns you that you can’t go out naked, so your character throws on some default rags. They’re basic items with no effect anyway.

-I recorded the blackmail video. Says daily income from it is Nan. If I post and sleep, it changes my money to NaN.

It's fixed in v0.5.1 hotfix.

-When you get caught stealing from a warehouse, the end text says they'll escort you "ouf of warehouse"

Oops. Noted.

-I can't tell if it's just me now, but the cum shot still won't show. Says "no video with supported format and mime type found". Maybe it's because I'm on Android Firefox and it's a weird media type? After playing long enough it seems like most of them show. I'm not sure which ones don't. It's only ever the invite over scenes.

Hmmm, quick googling shows that it's actually a common issue specifically for Firefox users - apparently, FF doesn't support h265/HEVC due to patent restrictions. But as far as I know, I'm not using h265 anywhere... I think? I'll double-check. On your end, you could try clearing your cache and cookies, i'm not sure that it'll help but maybe.

-removing a gang position doesn't close menu, or change anything unless you exit contacts

Bug, yep.

Turf war seems to have some issues too but I suspect it's just not done yet.

Well, you can actually finish it, but yeah - it's mostly in a placeholder-ish state right now.

Thanks for the feedback! I’ll fix the bugs you’ve mentioned in the next patch.

 

[Terakahn]

Ok cool. That's good to know. I also had some questions for things I ran into that weren't bugs but I was confused about. There was probably more but I forgot or they weren't important enough to write down.

-What is stash intended to be used for. Just a way to give your gang access to items? I pretty much never use it unless it tells me I have to, like with gang formation.

-I remember someone mentioning we had a fitness stat. But I didn't see it anywhere. Going to the gym only increases combat toughness.

-Are dresses supposed to be considered tops, bottoms or both? I can equip a shirt with a dress which seems odd. In other games like this I've played, dresses will function as a top and bottom combined and the stats will reflect that.

-Are there any events if you go to jail? Aside from the one when you get arrested.

-Any plans to expand the casino? Ie: events if you win too much money or maybe some stealing activity. Could be a cool heist?

-Why can't we use guns in combat? Any is there any plan to use guns for anything besides gang activities or the random use cases like getting in a car.

-What do the different cameras do? I didn't notice a difference with the tape payout.

-raw videos say daily income. Does that mean I get that much every day or is the wording misleading?

-I see cunning charm and combat in the stats menu. But is they're any place to see skills like car thievery, burglary, pickpocket, dancing etc? Could be a submenu like traits is, if you plan to add it.

-I keep leveling up skills but I only ever have 4 batteries of energy. But stripping is now taking like, 3/4ths of one battery. Is that normal or a mobile thing. I'm playing on a tablet. I even bought the home gym and all the other upgrades that are available. I might have to try the game on pc and see if the ui is different.

-taxmen can assist with taxes. What does this do? Is it just for the warehouse upgrade?

-Do giggles jobs increase payout with rank or is it something else?

-banker contact can only give Intel once? After that I had to find a new banker. Not sure if that's normal, or if I'm supposed to be able to have like, one inside contact as a banker that keep forever until they 'get caught'. I was recruiting one of each job (lawyer, loader, etc) to see if there was anything else but I didn't find anything. Just policeman, taxman, banker.

 

[Kroo]

-What is stash intended to be used for. Just a way to give your gang access to items? I pretty much never use it unless it tells me I have to, like with gang formation.

Just a way to micromanage whatever you want to be sold by your gang members, yep. Right now, only steroid and drug dealers are using it.

-I remember someone mentioning we had a fitness stat. But I didn't see it anywhere. Going to the gym only increases combat toughness.

Well, fitness increases combat toughness And stamina, yes.

-Are dresses supposed to be considered tops, bottoms or both? I can equip a shirt with a dress which seems odd. In other games like this I've played, dresses will function as a top and bottom combined and the stats will reflect that.

Dresses supposed to be both. There was a bug pre v0.5.1 that you could equip T3 clothes together with other items in the same slot.

-Are there any events if you go to jail? Aside from the one when you get arrested.

Nope. Only some action with warden.

-Any plans to expand the casino? Ie: events if you win too much money or maybe some stealing activity. Could be a cool heist?

Yeah, I think I mentioned in the roadmap that I'm planning to add a casino heist at some point. Alongside that, I’d like to expand the casino in general.

-Why can't we use guns in combat? Any is there any plan to use guns for anything besides gang activities or the random use cases like getting in a car.

They're currently used in hostile actions. Using guns in regular combat feels a bit silly from a logic standpoint tbh.

-What do the different cameras do? I didn't notice a difference with the tape payout.

Camera quality has the biggest impact on the payout. It's just that many other factors also affect the price, so the difference may not always be obvious at a glance.

-raw videos say daily income. Does that mean I get that much every day or is the wording misleading?

You could see on the EndDay that it's indeed a daily income. But the novelty of video decreases over time, so you'll earn less from it each day.

-I see cunning charm and combat in the stats menu. But is they're any place to see skills like car thievery, burglary, pickpocket, dancing etc? Could be a submenu like traits is, if you plan to add it.

You're getting a notification every time you raise any of proficiencies, and, well - the trait menu shows their current level.

-I keep leveling up skills but I only ever have 4 batteries of energy. But stripping is now taking like, 3/4ths of one battery. Is that normal or a mobile thing. I'm playing on a tablet. I even bought the home gym and all the other upgrades that are available. I might have to try the game on pc and see if the ui is different.

There are always only 4 batteries - it would look messy otherwise.

-taxmen can assist with taxes. What does this do? Is it just for the warehouse upgrade?

Taxmen reduce your rent and can also be fed to the feds if you get caught in tax fraud.

-Do giggles jobs increase payout with rank or is it something else?

It scales with your rep, yep. As most of the things in the game that do not scale with skills.

-banker contact can only give Intel once? After that I had to find a new banker. Not sure if that's normal, or if I'm supposed to be able to have like, one inside contact as a banker that keep forever until they 'get caught'. I was recruiting one of each job (lawyer, loader, etc) to see if there was anything else but I didn't find anything. Just policeman, taxman, banker.

Only once, yes.

 

[Alex964]

Я создал банду. У байкеров численность 15 000! Это нормально?! Сколько мне нужно собрать людей, чтобы было хотя бы 16 000?

 

[DogeD]

Fun game, I look forward to future updates. Is there a discord?

 

[somenew23]

Я создал банду. У байкеров численность 15 000! Это нормально?! Сколько мне нужно собрать людей, чтобы было хотя бы 16 000?

не численность а сила банды достаточно 128 треннированных человек чтобы сила банды была примерно 16-18 к + ежедневно совершая набеги на банды можно уменьшать их силу

 

[Alex964]

1. Если я предложу лидеру байкеров войти в мою организацию, будет ли это считаться захватом территории байкеров?
2. Отправить его тренироваться на подземном кольце — 3000 долларов. Что это дает?
3. Где найти органические материалы в больших количествах?

 

[ARB582]

Can some one give me the ranking of clothes ?
While some descriptions are quite clear, some can be quite confusing. For example, what is more provocative, flirty, mildly daring or a little suggestive ?

 

[Terakahn]

Can some one give me the ranking of clothes ?
While some descriptions are quite clear, some can be quite confusing. For example, what is more provocative, flirty, mildly daring or a little suggestive ?

I think it's conservative, a little suggestive, a little daring, flirty, revealing? At least that was my interpretation. I think I missed another one in there somewhere but that's the basic idea.

 

[letmein98]

Is there a bug where female contacts just never recover fatigue? They are always exhausted after seeing them a few times.

 

[Kagarus]

Can some one give me the ranking of clothes ?
While some descriptions are quite clear, some can be quite confusing. For example, what is more provocative, flirty, mildly daring or a little suggestive ?

I think it's conservative, a little suggestive, a little daring, flirty, revealing? At least that was my interpretation. I think I missed another one in there somewhere but that's the basic idea.

It's conservative (0), mildly daring, A little suggestive, Flirty (3&4), Revealing (5), Boldly exposed (6) and "Scandalous, indecent" (7-14, probably a placeholder) and Tasteless and dull (0), Mediocre, Acceptable, Trendy (3&4), Chic and polished, Eye-catching and Luxurious (7-14, dito).

 

[Kroo]

Fun game, I look forward to future updates. Is there a discord?

Nope.

Is there a bug where female contacts just never recover fatigue? They are always exhausted after seeing them a few times.

Oops, you're right. Give me 20 minutes - i'll upload a hotfix.
Edit: Done.

 

[ARB582]

There seems to be something off with the clothes in atelier. I can't seem to wear a top and bottom together from there and the dress allows me to wear some bottoms with it but not the ones from atelier.

 

[baklijkeee]

random encounter in old downtown not happening again, unlike other districs, seems like bug too

 

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[Kroo]

There seems to be something off with the clothes in atelier. I can't seem to wear a top and bottom together from there and the dress allows me to wear some bottoms with it but not the ones from atelier.

Yep, there were incorrect slot allocations for lingerie, bottoms, and dresses from the atelier in v0.4 - sorry about that. It’s not really a gamebreaking bug, so it was only fixed in v0.5. Thanks for the report anyway!

random encounter in old downtown not happening again, unlike other districs, seems like bug too

You're right. I forgot to add the cooldown reduction for that one. Thanks.

 

[zargal]

I've seen a fair bit of dislike about the heat system, which I understand as people were used to playing a certain way and then had to change. As a new player I think overall it works well, slight balancing aside. I didn't find it too frustrating, but it did mean in the midgame I had to keep my head down for a few days after doing something outrageous, which feels fair. In the latter parts, heat almost becomes a non-issue due to the various bonuses which also feels "right". Maybe it should be optional but I can only imagine that would complicate the coding a whole heap.

What was more annoying in midgame was morale. I was waiting for an eye-catching candidate for right hand so didn't have access to the Code and therefore didn't have much say in my morale dropping. I also didn't feel ready to declare war (although I would've been fine in hindsight). So the pool was the highest priority purchase but even that just means -1 a day rather than -2. It's not so much a balance issue, since by late game it's well under control, more of a communication thing as to what's available.

 

[Darkbreed]

Suggestion- take drug customization inspiration from schedule I indie game. Having meth that explodes or putting horse jizz and gasoline in meth is funny as shit. OFC I dont know how hard it is to program it tho.

 

[Terakahn]

I've seen a fair bit of dislike about the heat system, which I understand as people were used to playing a certain way and then had to change. As a new player I think overall it works well, slight balancing aside. I didn't find it too frustrating, but it did mean in the midgame I had to keep my head down for a few days after doing something outrageous, which feels fair. In the latter parts, heat almost becomes a non-issue due to the various bonuses which also feels "right". Maybe it should be optional but I can only imagine that would complicate the coding a whole heap.

What was more annoying in midgame was morale. I was waiting for an eye-catching candidate for right hand so didn't have access to the Code and therefore didn't have much say in my morale dropping. I also didn't feel ready to declare war (although I would've been fine in hindsight). So the pool was the highest priority purchase but even that just means -1 a day rather than -2. It's not so much a balance issue, since by late game it's well under control, more of a communication thing as to what's available.

I don't honestly understand what the drawback of the heat system is. I get high heat and nothing really happens. I occasionally get an event with the police at a warehouse, which I can either flirt my way out of or pay them. I purposefully tried to have as much heat as possible and it didn't really change much for me.

What is supposed to be the set of features that motivates you to have lower heat?

For me I handled morale by giving them more money for the +1, but most of it honestly came from random little events. Like them asking me to buy a random shipment. I don't know if there should be more events around morale but I feel like there should.