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SonsOfLiberty

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I see, so you mean you can replay them in the gallery but cannot repeat them during gameplay, that's sad. will pass this one then.
Why would you want to repeat them, there long as hell for the most part. Replaying them sort of (actually does) kill any kind of immersion.

Plus, there are "platinum" bonus scenes that are only available via scene gallery.
 

Sir_EatsALot

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Why would you want to repeat them, there long as hell for the most part. Replaying them sort of (actually does) kill any kind of immersion.

Plus, there are "platinum" bonus scenes that are only available via scene gallery.
the biggest appeal of sandbox games for me is the flexibility to interact with the girls around the world and have sexual encounters and repeat them at different times of the day. If it's once and done, then it's just a VN and sandbox doesn't really add anything extra. That's my personal preference. Others enjoy a linear gameplay, I don't. To each their own I guess.
 
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the biggest appeal of sandbox games for me is the flexibility to interact with the girls around the world and have sexual encounters and repeat them at different times of the day. If it's once and done, then it's just a VN and sandbox doesn't really add anything extra. That's my personal preference. Others enjoy a linear gameplay, I don't. To each their own I guess.
The sandbox is an old tag, it's only sandbox for the first few minutes, there is ZERO grind.

There are 100's of choices.

They also do the scene gallery for a reason to add side content and replay ability.

Sandboxes are for kids to play in or with their toys, or for cats to shit in imho :devilish:
 
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The sandbox is an old tag, it's only sandbox for the first few minutes, there is ZERO grind.

There are 100's of choices.

They also do the scene gallery for a reason to add side content and replay ability.

Sandboxes are for kids to play in or with their toys, or for cats to shit in imho :devilish:
Awesome, congratulations.
 

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"Ignore" is your friend. ;)

I set her as step-sister. It seemed to make more sense than full sister. Still taboo, still a "Patreon" no-no, but not usually illegal. :LOL:
Yeah, all their games are incest based, just straight out of the box, once they went full Patreon they went this route (like Long Story Short), I mean some say there isn't, some say there is, some say cousin, whatever floats your boat, step still is considered incest both on Patreon and F95 and F95 tag for it as well: Incest [Sex act between family relatives, including those not related by blood.]

In the end, doesn't matter how people see it or play, not like it's world-shattering shit :whistle:
 

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I set her as step-sister.
I think even stepsister is not attracted, there should be at least some kind of dialogue, although there is no small hint here, there used to be in their games, but here they either could not or did not want to. You can install a cousin, although again you will have to fantasize about it yourself. There is not a single dialogue similar to the dialogue of people from the same family
 

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Yeah the incest-vibe is a little weird in this game.

They lived together, could be a very close childhoodfriend. But than there is this whole taboo thing going on, as if a relationship between the two is forbidden. And the fact that all their other games are clearly supposed to be incest (with the same loophole to avoid patreon ban) makes me set Leah as sister as well. I dont remember exactly but i think one time they are refereing to their parents too (which are magically nowhere on earth, cause they dont even call them or something like that)

Well... whatever. Compared to DfD and Double Homework the game has extreme flaws in continuitiy, and that said... the other games have such problems as well, but not as heavy as in Shale Hill. So during a playthrough sometimes you get serious incest vibes, and in the very next scene not anymore. And the matter of fact that decisions doesnt really matter was already discussed, cause they are ignored constantly.
 

leo dicaprio

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Yeah the incest-vibe is a little weird in this game.

I missed the starting question about Leah, I do not know how, and I kept waiting for a relative to come to him, the game took quite a long time, and only then I saw in the settings that it was possible for her to establish a relationship, I was surprised. Without this clue, I wouldn't have guessed.
 

leo dicaprio

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it is since devs want to keep their games well inside patreon's rules unlike other devs who poke the boundaries 1 way or other.
listening to two hypocrites from California is a bad idea, let the whole art of Breaking Bad delete if it's fighting drugs like that, or game of Thrones if you don't like incest so much
 

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Yeah the incest-vibe is a little weird in this game.

They lived together, could be a very close childhoodfriend. But than there is this whole taboo thing going on, as if a relationship between the two is forbidden. And the fact that all their other games are clearly supposed to be incest (with the same loophole to avoid patreon ban) makes me set Leah as sister as well. I dont remember exactly but i think one time they are refereing to their parents too (which are magically nowhere on earth, cause they dont even call them or something like that)

Well... whatever. Compared to DfD and Double Homework the game has extreme flaws in continuitiy, and that said... the other games have such problems as well, but not as heavy as in Shale Hill. So during a playthrough sometimes you get serious incest vibes, and in the very next scene not anymore. And the matter of fact that decisions doesnt really matter was already discussed, cause they are ignored constantly.
Honestly, this VN doesn't really play up the brother/sister relationship as hard as others. At least for most of the chapters, you could totally interpret their relationship as best friends who are sharing an apartment for college (literal roommates). It isn't until later where there are some cracks in the dialogue that hint at a taboo where the sibling relationship becomes more evident. And then later it's revealed that they were raised together in the same household, so logically they'd have to be step or foster siblings at the very least.

I personally don't care whether or not there is Incest though I trend towards preferring non-incest. It's just so common in VNs that it's practically a rule at this point that hot family members are fuckable. That said, more than anything I like dialogue to work in context though and sometimes incest is specifically NOT intended (like in the case of Origin Story). So usually I'll start a VN with the default dialogue right up until the dialogue doesn't make sense without incest, then I'll toggle it on or get a patch.
 
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Honestly, this VN doesn't really play up the brother/sister relationship as hard as others. At least for most of the chapters, you could totally interpret their relationship as best friends who are sharing an apartment for college (literal roommates). It isn't until later where there are some cracks in the dialogue that hint at a taboo where the sibling relationship becomes more evident. And then later it's revealed that they were raised together in the same household, so logically they'd have to be step or foster siblings at the very least.

I personally don't care whether or not there is Incest though I trend towards preferring non-incest. It's just so common in VNs that it's practically a rule at this point that hot family members are fuckable. That said, more than anything I like dialogue to work in context though and sometimes incest is specifically NOT intended (like in the case of Origin Story). So usually I'll start a VN with the default dialogue right up until the dialogue doesn't make sense without incest, then I'll toggle it on or get a patch.
Yeah same for me overall... some games are written like incest games all the way, but dont have incest to avoid Patreon ban. But its crystal clear that its incest. Most of the time there is a little i-patch for it, or you can set the relations and everything makes sense.

And than there are games where it jumps around like a horny rabbit... shale hill is one of those. Most of the times MC and Leah are acting just like good friends that attend college and live together. And than there are serious incest vibes. Like growing up together with the same parents in the same house. The whole taboo vibe with their relationship. Or that the MC got money for his illness and gives up the money to buy him and Leah a appartment and pay for college... for the both. You dont do that for a "friend". Its like the DEVs couldnt decide if its incest or not... so it jumps between non-incest and incest back and forth. Overall a somewhat "incest" relationship makes a tiny little bit more sense in Shale Hill to me, but with or without incest doesnt matter, in both ways there are just huge problems.

When a game has incest tag AND patreon, i usually look up if its written as a non-incest game, if not i try to avoid those games for now... sometimes the tag is just there cause someone made a i-patch that doesnt really work well for the game. (where the heart is, is a good example) But if a game is written as incest and just avoids it in a ridiculous way just to stay on patreon, the game is mostly ruined. Good example for a ruined game because of that is Life in Santa county. You cant play it with i-patch anymore cause its a buggy mess where my hair is turning grey and without it is just totally ridiculous nonsense. It gets like that if DEVs dont have a plan to write (or re-write) the game without incest but need to.

So more and more "incest" games are not really enjoyable anymore, but well, looking at my play-history, my favorite games dont have incest in them. Shale Hill is not one of my favorites... it just has way to many flaws. But its still a good one.
 

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this has incest tag here (not elsewhere) cause can change relations to be incestious.
 

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Honestly, this VN doesn't really play up the brother/sister relationship as hard as others. At least for most of the chapters, you could totally interpret their relationship as best friends who are sharing an apartment for college (literal roommates). It isn't until later where there are some cracks in the dialogue that hint at a taboo where the sibling relationship becomes more evident. And then later it's revealed that they were raised together in the same household, so logically they'd have to be step or foster siblings at the very least.

I personally don't care whether or not there is Incest though I trend towards preferring non-incest. It's just so common in VNs that it's practically a rule at this point that hot family members are fuckable. That said, more than anything I like dialogue to work in context though and sometimes incest is specifically NOT intended (like in the case of Origin Story). So usually I'll start a VN with the default dialogue right up until the dialogue doesn't make sense without incest, then I'll toggle it on or get a patch.
Agree on the very loose application storywise of that relationship...... the one thing that struck me playing it a few times is how unlikeable the majority of the characters are.
Majority of the time the MC spends being used while having little agency, the majority of targets are untrustworthy or outright hostile and after 16 odd chapters he still sits back taking it.
The ending had better be a banger because so far the only power fantasy in the story is for the NPC's.
 

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So has anyone found a reliable method for getting this working through wine? I recently had to migrate to Linux and so far SHS is the only thing giving me problems. Haven't figured out how to get it working.
 
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