VN Ren'Py Shared Desires [v0.1] [CasaliusAfterDark]

[O1duvai]

You're right, the question is settled, because the story itself considers the actions a 'betrayal', ie cheating, to some degree.
Otherwise, Helen wouldn't have felt guilty and Kate wouldn't have felt the need to rationalize, it wasn't a 'real' betrayal...
Helen hadn't just met James, she considered him her boyfriend... Her actions were wrong, and she (the dev and story), know it.

but Helen's actions were most definitely cheating.

I think there's a difference between "the story thinks it might be" and "the character thinks it might be it."
You don't have any information about the sequel. And to be honest, this reading of the plot by the star, even before writing it, was a little boring.

Oh yes, let me remind you. You literally fucked up the most important thing. It is impossible to cheat on someone with whom you have no idea what your relationship is at this moment.

In a flashback, back when Helen and James weren't married yet but were still dating

Everything else is your personal theory. Without a ring and painting, there is no “loyalty”. Unless you're a fucking nun.

 

[redoubt27]

Oh yes, let me remind you. You literally fucked up the most important thing. It is impossible to cheat on someone with whom you have no idea what your relationship is at this moment.

You can't be serious...

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I think there's a difference between "the story thinks it might be" and "the character thinks it might be it."

They're the same thing.
If the character considers it cheating, that's the story.
Yeah, Helen cheated.
Helen knows it, the story knows it...

 

[Ronny8888]

You can't be serious...

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They're the same thing.
If the character considers it cheating, that's the story.
Yeah, Helen cheated.
Helen knows it, the story knows it...

It wasn't a thought, it was what happened with the photographer a few days before leaving, FMC was about to cheat. So, she already has a fast track as a cheater.

 

[O1duvai]

You can't be serious...

You're writing some kind of bullshit. Not serious - what? Did you fully read the message you linked to?
Was there a ring? No. Continue the drama. The protagonist can have anything in her head, even Star Wars.

And I don’t really understand why you bothered so much with screenshots. How are they related to my text? Are you trying to prove to me... What? Your vision of cheating?

While the definition of cheating can vary from person to person, I personally consider this to be cheating

Well, sad, I guess. Sign up for this club.

 

[redoubt27]

It wasn't a thought, it was what happened with the photographer a few days before leaving, FMC was about to cheated.

Yes, it wasn't a thought, it's what happened. And I fixed it for you...

 

[PonderingPotatoPal]

You can't be serious...

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The person you're arguing with seems to have skipped through everything and is completely out of the loop.

 

[O1duvai]

The person you're arguing with seems to have skipped through everything and is completely out of the loop.

Reveal the secret.

The entire dialogue revolves around a quote that he didn’t even bother to read, or read with an ass. In which the roles and statuses of the characters, and the “author’s opinion” are described.

The situation hasn't changed, we have two characters here who believe that the label of "boyfriend" equates to marriage-level obligations, although this is absolutely not the case. This empty nonsense about high morality. The game still has zero content for the corresponding tag.

 

[redoubt27]

The person you're arguing with seems to have skipped through everything and is completely out of the loop.

Not arguing. They're not out of the loop, they're completely deluded, unreasonable...
It's not cheating unless you're married? That's crazy town...

 

[O1duvai]

Not arguing. They're not out of the loop, they're completely deluded, unreasonable...
It's not cheating unless you're married? That's crazy town...

While the definition of cheating can vary from person to person, I personally consider this to be cheating

That is, the first thing you started with was another person’s message, where he focused on his opinion, and then you edited your opinion to suit his.
And you are not at all embarrassed by the fact that you are in the field of subjectivity. You didn’t even think of backing this up with the phrase “I think.”
And that the only value that counts betrayal or cheating is the ring and the document.
You should pick up the red nose from the floor. While you polish the white armor.

And since you relied on that dude's quote, show me the scene of coitus with the photographer that I missed. I couldn’t find it.

 

[PonderingPotatoPal]

!!!
If anyone here thinks this ain't cheating, link me with their girl. I'll just be makin' out and playin' with her ass since he's chill with it.

 

[NewGuy2022]

" Without secrets and far from betrayal, they open a new path built solely on honesty, trust, and mutual consent. "
Doesn't sound like any cheating.

Sounds like code for surprise NTR on this site... ...anytime the description leans that heavily into "goodness" it's an NTR trap...

Of course, the dev notes say:

This will not be a dramatic cheating or betrayal story. There will be no NTR elements.

So I guess we'll wait and see (?)

 

[redoubt27]

So I guess we'll wait and see (?)

No need to wait, it's already in the flashback...
I can only guess it doesn't or won't qualify as 'dramatic'...
Just have to wait and see if Helen keeps it a secret, which will defy the honest, trust, mutual consent path, or James will be totally fine with it.
He'll probably be a little upset (not in a dramatic way of course...lol) he didn't get to watch, or the nude pictures, or both... Who knows...