Ren'Py Shattered Minds [v0.15 Hotfix02] [eXtasy Games]

[eXtasy Games]

For the upcoming 0.07, do we have to replay the game? Also hope MC's BF gets improved to be less annoying and at least likable or tolerable.

No, you don't have to replay it. Only if you want to see the changes and get all the achievements.
Well, his friend is annoying and stupid by design. You'll see why in V0.07.

anyway to skip the minigame ? or console command the xp ? It's annoying and I'd rather go kick puppies then play that, and I like puppies

Yeah, theres a skip button right next to the play button.

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  File "script files/mobilephone/ow_phone_app_questlog.rpyc", line 337, in script call
  File "script files/mobilephone/ow_phone_app_messenger.rpyc", line 254, in script call
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  File "script files/OW_locations/house/ow_lbl_house_MC_Room.rpyc", line 30, in script call
  File "script files/Character_Storys/story_day2.rpyc", line 782, in script call
  File "script files/Character_Storys/story_day2.rpyc", line 782, in script call
  File "script files/Character_Storys/story_day2.rpyc", line 798, in script call
  File "script files/Character_Storys/story_day3.rpyc", line 460, in script call
  File "script files/Character_Storys/story_day3.rpyc", line 645, in script call
  File "script files/Character_Storys/story_day3.rpyc", line 645, in script call
  File "script files/Character_Storys/story_day3.rpyc", line 889, in script
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    rv = renpy.game.interface.interact(roll_forward=roll_forward, **kwargs)
  File "Z:\Shattered_Minds-V0.05-pc\renpy\display\core.py", line 3377, in interact
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  File "render.pyx", line 266, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "Z:\Shattered_Minds-V0.05-pc\renpy\display\layout.py", line 884, in render
    surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
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  File "render.pyx", line 266, in renpy.display.render.render
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  File "render.pyx", line 266, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "Z:\Shattered_Minds-V0.05-pc\renpy\display\transform.py", line 747, in render
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  File "render.pyx", line 266, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "Z:\Shattered_Minds-V0.05-pc\renpy\display\layout.py", line 884, in render
    surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
  File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "render.pyx", line 266, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "Z:\Shattered_Minds-V0.05-pc\renpy\display\transform.py", line 747, in render
    return transform_render(self, width, height, st, at)
  File "accelerator.pyx", line 187, in renpy.display.accelerator.transform_render
  File "render.pyx", line 266, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "Z:\Shattered_Minds-V0.05-pc\renpy\display\image.py", line 505, in render
    return wrap_render(self.target, width, height, st, at)
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    rend = render(child, w, h, st, at)
  File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "render.pyx", line 266, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "Z:\Shattered_Minds-V0.05-pc\renpy\display\transform.py", line 747, in render
    return transform_render(self, width, height, st, at)
  File "accelerator.pyx", line 187, in renpy.display.accelerator.transform_render
  File "render.pyx", line 266, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "Z:\Shattered_Minds-V0.05-pc\renpy\display\transition.py", line 378, in render
    top = render(self.new_widget, width, height, st, at)
  File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "render.pyx", line 266, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "Z:\Shattered_Minds-V0.05-pc\renpy\display\im.py", line 627, in render
    return cache.get(self, render=True)
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  File "Z:\Shattered_Minds-V0.05-pc\renpy\display\im.py", line 720, in load
    raise e
  File "Z:\Shattered_Minds-V0.05-pc\renpy\display\im.py", line 685, in load
    filelike = renpy.loader.load(self.filename)
  File "Z:\Shattered_Minds-V0.05-pc\renpy\loader.py", line 820, in load
    raise IOError("Couldn't find file '%s'." % name)
OSError: Couldn't find file 'front_Ava_mindroom_bored_bl.webp'.

Windows-10-10.0.19045 AMD64
Ren'Py 8.0.2.22081402
Shattered Minds V0.05
Mon Oct 16 10:06:28 2023

You're playing V0.05. Please download V0.06 released today. This error has been fixed there.

 

[Bronzescorpion]

anyway to skip the minigame ? or console command the xp ? It's annoying and I'd rather go kick puppies then play that, and I like puppies

Just press the skip button, it is literally there right before you play the game.

i dont get all of the negative reviews tbh. the games high quality, updates often, has mind control, has incest, smooth sandbox, games not that grindy at all, the girls are pretty hot, etc.

saw one guy complaining that theres not a lot of content and a ton of routes say "continued in next update", yeah no shit dumb fuck, the games pretty new. when did peoples standards get so high? this is miles better than majority of games in this genre

I was puzzled about some of the reviews too. I get that people have different taste, but some of them I was just going: "wtf are you talking about?"

 

[homarkc]

How do I get my slave to gather mind points? Right now "gathering money" and "gathering XP" are the only options for Eleanor. Also, Eleanor's apartment disappears from the map after MC enslaving her. Is that normal?

 

[Troll]

Just press the skip button, it is literally there right before you play the game.


I was puzzled about some of the reviews too. I get that people have different taste, but some of them I was just going: "wtf are you talking about?"

skip gives 20 xp ... all you do is end up clicking a lot more for lot less ...

 

[Ka1tzer]

Man, most of the complaints I've seen here are from ppl that did not play the game or read anything, with skip dialog and the ctrl key permanently pressed, holy shit. Everything is explained in the game very objectively and clearly. It takes more time to ask about it in this forum (and rightfully getting ridiculed by other members for asking the stupidest of questions) than to actually read what's already in the game.

So I'll do some community service and answer a couple of them:

anyway to skip the minigame ? or console command the xp ? It's annoying and I'd rather go kick puppies then play that, and I like puppies

skip gives 20 xp ... all you do is end up clicking a lot more for lot less ...

If you'd be so kind as to direct your eyes a little bit to the right of the "play Ava Says" button, you'll find the elusive "skip game" button. Skipping the minigame does not award 20 exp. In my game, it awards either 30xp, 60xp, 80xp or 120xp randomly. Also, you can save scum it before choosing the option to skip and reload the save to always get 80xp or 120xp results. You're welcome.

Here's another guy complaining about it, it's only there to make the game look like it has more content than it does, the sandbox is anything but smooth btw, the game is completely unplayable without following the walkthrough step by step, if you want to explore and walk around on your own there is almost literally nothing to do. That's the main gripe for me, and the updates are barely crumbs.

I love the renders and the story/premise but the sandbox is terribly implemented IMO.

If I understand correctly, your main complaint is "not enough content", right? Well, the game is still very early in development and needs time. As for the game being "completely unplayable without following the walkthrough step by step"...really? I'm no genius and yet managed to play it all without any help because the game is pretty objective about things, nothing really vague that you have to find out. So idk man, but I'd be embarrassed of posting a comment like that, especially since by your own words "the game look like it has more content than it does". Really driving hard the point that you ain't the sharpest tool in the shed there.

I will say though, that this update felt very small in regards to content. It has, however, implemented a new system into a game that didn't have it before, and I'm fairly sure that uses up quite a bit of dev time. I'm hoping that the next updates will be more meaty in regards to content as opposed to technical stuff (such as systems).

Now while I'm defending the game, that isn't to say I don't have any gripes with it. I just really feel that some of these forum posters gripes and takes are terrible and very unjustified. I also feel that this game is quite the gem - in need of polishing, sure, but it has many elements that have an insane amount of potential. In my next post I'll go over my own gripes with the game in the most constructive way possible.

 

[Ka1tzer]

Here's my "review" of the last update (that might as well apply to the game as a whole). I won't write it as a proper rated review until more content has been added into the game though.

I'll start with more universal stuff: I, as well as many others, tend to dislike "dream scenes" as they usually are only present in games in order to check some kind of "X amount of needed sex scenes quota" in the story. They usually add nothing but "fan service" to a game, and feel very hollow (even if the scene is hot). This update had one such scene. It's not exactly the same kind of "hollow dream scenes" that other games have, but as it is right now, it kind of is.

My suggestion is to make it relevant to the story/MC by making it repeatable and award Mind Points. This would also expand the possible array of scenes and let eXtasy Games get away with a lot of other setups in the future. For instance, we could have a small adventure in a sci-fi or in a pirate setting in order to unlock other relevant-to-the-story powers. Having the option to revisit those "mind locations" and get some repeatable scenes with the characters in there, all the while getting Mind Points for it seems like a great way to go about it (since all the characters are also a part of the MC's mind).

That said, the adventure as a whole did feel kinda "fluff-ish". However, I think that instead of backing off from that approach, it'd be better to double down and make it even more "ridiculous", all the while having whatever it is we're doing in that "mind-world" to intertwine more with the objectives.

Now, in regards to Ava... I'm not sure where you want to go with her character, but she is definitely in a prime position to be worked on as an antagonist. Perhaps even the main antagonist of the story. She could be helping us now only because that also helps herself, but ultimately she'd want to suppress us and take over the MC's body. Now, I hope that isn't the case and she'll remain as our partner-in-crime (as she has been so far) permanently. But if that's not the case, I hope there'll be a way suppress her into that role. I'm thinking of her in a similar way to how Johnny Silverhand was handled in CP77 (although I hated how that story concluded in all their endings).

That said, my own personal take of her sex scene... Your mileage may vary, but I hate handjobs. Just hate them. Whenever one appears in a game, I feel like that was wasted potential. It's what every boy, teen or man can do and has been doing all their life whenever one just wants a quick release. And her being a part of my own inner conscious just made it so it felt like a "dream wank", not even a real one. Goddamit, at least make it a blowjob, if not something better. Some people might get off to handjobs on account of the imagery that "it's a hot girl doing it for you instead of you by yourself just imagining a hot girl doing other stuff" but cmon! I'd much rather not have had the dream peasant girl scene and gotten more quality time with Ava instead if given the choice. Maybe others disagree, but that's my own personal take on that. In the (hopefully near) future, I hope to have a lot more options with Ava in regards to Mind Point farming.

Next is, again, absolutely a me thing that a lot of people might disagree or just not care one way or another. It's about the incest. A lot of people enjoy it and that's fine. I myself do enjoy daughter and sister stuff, but hate mother content. Hypocritical? Probably, but that's how it is for me. I'd request that you make the story make sense even if the incest is optional. In the beginning of the game, I wanted to set Sophia as aunt and Chloe as cousin (though having her as sister would be just as fine), but those weren't options because, iirc, Chloe's relation to you depends on how you choose Sophia's relation to you to be and you can't directly choose it. That was probably done for story reasons, as you probably need Chloe and Sophia to be daughter and mother in the story. I just wish I could avoid the whole mother thing without missing out on content (My Bully is my Lover is a game in which you can theoretically choose whatever relation to the family characters you want, but anything other than direct familial bonds make the story make no sense whatsoever).

Finally, just a bit of how I felt the story took an unexpected turn on account of what characters we'd be able to work on first. Based on how the story started, I thought we'd be working first and foremost on Chloe and Sarah, Luna and Scarlett and only then would we really start to "work our way up" in regards to people that have more power and/or authority, such as Eleanor, Sophia and the Principal (as well as possible other future characters). The bully guy wouldn't even be on the list, though I liked the way that was handled. Still, I'd prefer investing in those previously mentioned girls before rewiring the bully and getting his girl (though having him as an enforcer could be a potential boon for the story in several ways). Speaking of, someone else suggested ways to have Sharon return to the story a while back and I'm fully onboard with their suggestion.

Back on topic, personally, I wouldn't have gone onto Eleanor like we have at this point in the story as it did feel somewhat bait-and-switchy, as some people have pointed out. I don't know if the game in the future will allow us to progress with the girls in any order we desire or not, but as of now, the order did seem somewhat strange to me. Not that that's a bad thing, just isn't really what I expected. Sarah already being the closest non-familial girl to us seemed like a great start point, especially considering the progress we've made with her so far and the fact that we can even work together in the coffee shop. Luna and her behavior seemed like something I'd want to explore much earlier than me trying to influence a teacher. Putting Scarlett in her place would be priority number one for me, even if only for petty revenge since she's such a bitch. Getting Chloe under control would also be tied to number one goal due to her possible usefulness as a very smart girl, but also due to her accessibility, living literally in the room next door. A great way to practice our growing powers with several boons attached to it. Having all those options but then going straight to Eleanor seemingly out of the blue felt weird to me.

So yeah, I think that's it from me as of now. I'm greatly enjoying the game and I'm looking forward to updates to it about as much as some top shelf games in the site. I feel this game isn't really "up there" yet, but it's definitely heading that way.

 

[rafa30]

Hello guys
any full save?
please

 

[Cryptist]

Until a quest is included in the update, it should NOT take up space in the quest log. Having to scroll through unavailable quests is frustrating.

 

[Ka1tzer]

Until a quest is included in the update, it should NOT take up space in the quest log. Having to scroll through unavailable quests is frustrating.

Or simply be moved to the lower spots in the quest list, leaving the ones that can be completed near the top. It'd be a nice QoL.

 

[Lonewolf007]

Is there a guide on what powers to spend my points in. I tried dividing points equally then got stuck on level 4 on most and 5 on the middle power. I need lvl 6 on two of my powers .

 

[Ka1tzer]

I am a confused on how to get money in this game. Can anyone help or give me advice?

I did it through save scumming blackjack. Always betting everything and doubling the money until I got around 15k.

Is there a guide on what powers to spend my points in. I tried dividing points equally then got stuck on level 4 on most and 5 on the middle power. I need lvl 6 on two of my powers .

I'd suggest keeping the points unused until you actually need them. IIRC, you can get through all of the current story content by going 3/6/6 as of current update. Alternatively, just quick grind through skipping the Ava minigames and going through days until you can get all powers to 6+ and you're golden for this update.

 

[Thunderclap44]

I did it through save scumming blackjack. Always betting everything and doubling the money until I got around 15k.

sadly I don't know how to play blackjack

 

[Ka1tzer]

sadly I don't know how to play blackjack

You need to get as close to 21 as possible, without going over. If the sum of your cards is over 21, you automatically lose, if it's exactly 21 you automatically win. If it's below 21, but above what your opponent gets, you win. You get the starting card and can ask for the dealer to "hit" you. That means giving you an additional card, it's value being summed to your previous amount.

All the number cards are self explanatory, I forgot the face card values, and I believe the Ace can count as both a 1 or 11, but I could be wrong. It sounds more difficult than it is. Basically, try to get as close to 21 as possible.

 

[metallica57625]

Here's my "review" of the last update (that might as well apply to the game as a while). I won't write it as a proper rated review until more content has been added into the game though.

I'll start with more universal stuff: I, as well as many others, tend to dislike "dream scenes" as they usually are only present in games in order to check some kind of "X amount of needed sex scenes quota" in the story. They usually add nothing but "fan service" to a game, and feel very hollow (even if the scene is hot). This update had one such scene. It's not exactly the same kind of "hollow dream scenes" that other games have, but as it is right now, it kind of is.

My suggestion is to make it relevant to the story/MC by making it repeatable and award Mind Points. This would also expand the possible array of scenes and let eXtasy Games get away with a lot of other setups in the future. For instance, we could have a small adventure in a sci-fi or in a pirate setting in order to unlock other relevant-to-the-story powers. Having the option to revisit those "mind locations" and get some repeatable scenes with the characters in there, all the while getting Mind Points for it seems like a great way to go about it (since all the characters are also a part of the MC's mind).

That said, the adventure as a whole did feel kinda "fluff-ish". However, I think that instead of backing off from that approach, it'd be better to double down and make it even more "ridiculous", all the while having whatever it is we're doing in that "mind-world" to intertwine more with the objectives.

Now, in regards to Ava... I'm not sure where you want to go with her character, but she is definitely in a prime position to be worked on as an antagonist. Perhaps even the main antagonist of the story. She could be helping us now only because that also helps herself, but ultimately she'd want to suppress us and take over the MC's body. Now, I hope that isn't the case and she'll remain as our partner-in-crime (as she has been so far) permanently. But if that's not the case, I hope there'll be a way suppress her into that role. I'm thinking of her in a similar way to how Johnny Silverhand was handled in CP77 (although I hated how that story concluded in all their endings).

That said, my own personal take of her sex scene... Your mileage may vary, but I hate handjobs. Just hate them. Whenever one appear in a game, I feel like that was wasted potential. It's what every boy, teen or man can do and has been doing all their life whenever one just wants a quick release. And her being a part of my own inner conscious just made it so it felt like a "dream wank", not even a real one. Goddamit, at least make it a blowjob, if not something better. Some people might get off to handjobs on account of the imagery that "it's a hot girl doing it for you instead of you by yourself just imagining a hot girl doing other stuff" but cmon! I'd much rather not have had the dream peasant girl scene and gotten more quality time with Ava instead if given the choice. Maybe others disagree, but that's my own personal take on that. In the (hopefully near) future, I hope to have a lot more options with Ava in regards to Mind Point farming.

Next is, again, absolutely a me thing that a lot of people might disagree or just not care one way or another. It's about the incest. A lot of people enjoy it and that's fine. I myself do enjoy daughter and sister stuff, but hate mother content. Hypocritical? Probably, but that's how it is for me. I'd request that you make the story make sense even if the incest is optional. In the beginning of the game, I wanted to set Sophia as aunt and Chloe as cousin (though having her as sister would be just as fine), but those weren't options because, iirc, Chloe's relation to you depends on how you choose Sophia's relation to you to be and you can't directly choose it. That was probably done for story reasons, as you probably need Chloe and Sophia to be daughter and mother in the story. I just wish I could avoid the whole mother thing without missing out on content (My Bully is my Lover is a game in which you can theoretically choose whatever relation to the family characters you want, but anything other than direct familial bonds make the story make no sense whatsoever).

Finally, just a bit of how I felt the story took an unexpected turn on account of what characters we'd be able to work on first. Based on how the story started, I thought we'd be working first and foremost on Chloe and Sarah, Luna and Scarlett and only then would we really start to "work our way up" in regards to people that have more power and/or authority, such as Eleanor, Sophia and the Principal (as well as possible other future characters). The bully guy wouldn't even be on the list, though I liked the way that was handled. Still, I'd prefer investing in those previously mentioned girls before rewiring the bully and getting his girl (though having him as an enforcer could be a potential boon for the story in several ways). Speaking of, someone else suggested ways to have Sharon return to the story a while back and I'm fully onboard with their suggestion.

Back on topic, personally, I wouldn't have gone onto Eleanor like we have at this point in the story as it did feel somewhat bait-and-switchy, as some people have pointed out. I don't know if the game in the future will allow us to progress with the girls in any order we desire or not, but as of now, the order did seem somewhat strange to me. Not that that's a bad thing, just isn't really what I expected. Sarah already being the closest non-familial girl to us seemed like a great start point, especially considering the progress we've made with her so far and the fact that we can even work together in the coffee shop. Luna and her behavior seemed like something I'd want to explore much earlier than me trying to influence a teacher. Putting Scarlett in her place would be priority number one for me, even if only for petty revenge since she's such a bitch. Getting Chloe under control would also be tied to number one goal due to her possible usefulness as a very smart girl, but also due to her accessibility, living literally in the room next door. A great way to practice our growing powers with several boons attached to it. Having all those options but then going straight to Eleanor seemingly out of the blue felt weird to me.

So yeah, I think that's it from me as of now. I'm greatly enjoying the game and I'm looking forward to updates to it about as much as some top shelf games in the site. I feel this game isn't really "up there" yet, but it's definitely heading that way.

So, I'm one of the many patrons of the creator. The reason Eleanor was corrupted fully first was as a means to show what you can do in the future with the other characters, as noted by Extasy in one of his earlier posts. He made her the first target as kind of a selling point since many others like me were asking for more Eleanor content after her introduction. With the upcoming update, there will be more meat to the main story and the other characters like Alice for example.

I would also like to mention that incest is kind of popular nowadays, but is prohibited to be expressed due to Patreon restrictions (Kind of why landlady and roommate are used frequently in place of mother and sister/brother). So, you aren't going to get alot of variation on that front if you want to see the game continue and not struck down by the website.

 

[Ka1tzer]

So, I'm one of the many patrons of the creator. The reason Eleanor was corrupted fully first was as a means to show what you can do in the future with the other characters, as noted by Extasy in one of his earlier posts. He made her the first target as kind of a selling point since many others like me were asking for more Eleanor content after her introduction. With the upcoming update, there will be more meat to the main story and the other characters like Alice for example.

I would also like to mention that incest is kind of popular nowadays, but is prohibited to be expressed due to Patreon restrictions (Kind of why landlady and roommate are used frequently in place of mother and sister/brother). So, you aren't going to get alot of variation on that front if you want to see the game continue and not struck down by the website.

I totally get the incest thing, it's just that the landlady / roommate / tenant stuff are easily patched to the "proper" way it should be, that wasn't my gripe at all. I just wanted to request that the story make sense even if instead of "mom" (or landlady, I guess), the story works just as well with Aunt, or whatever other title. Cause some stories (like MBML) completely fall apart sense-wise if you set up anything other than the direct familial incest option. I get that it's popular, and that's fine, just some of it (specifically the mother stuff) is not my thing. Won't really complain much about it though.

As for the Eleanor thing, she was setup first as a result of patreon votes or something? Cause that'd make sense. Can you share who's being setup next?

 

[Lonewolf007]

sadly I don't know how to play blackjack

Its easy go up to 21 but don't go over that to win blackjack aces are worth 1 or 11 the face cards are worth 10 and number cards are Worth their number.

 

[ImAenigmA]

I downloaded and copied the save folder but Eleonor is always blocked there, but I have many more points than requested.
Can someone post the saves please? I don't want to start over again.

 

[lipe2410]

As for the Eleanor thing, she was setup first as a result of patreon votes or something? Cause that'd make sense. Can you share who's being setup next?

I'm not a patron, but by the current roadmap the next ones will be in this order: Sarah, Sofia and Chloe (the last two in the same update).

 

[metallica57625]

I totally get the incest thing, it's just that the landlady / roommate / tenant stuff are easily patched to the "proper" way it should be, that wasn't my gripe at all. I just wanted to request that the story make sense even if instead of "mom" (or landlady, I guess), the story works just as well with Aunt, or whatever other title. Cause some stories (like MBML) completely fall apart sense-wise if you set up anything other than the direct familial incest option. I get that it's popular, and that's fine, just some of it (specifically the mother stuff) is not my thing. Won't really complain much about it though.

As for the Eleanor thing, she was setup first as a result of patreon votes or something? Cause that'd make sense. Can you share who's being setup next?

As far as I can remember, the Eleanor thing wasn't through a poll. It was Extasy's decision just to show how far you can go with the mind control (Apparently you can go even further, but we aren't there yet development wise). The other characters in the next update (0.7) being targeted are Alice, Sophia, and Bill and some mechanics changes being put into place for pregnancy.

Just so you know, if you join the discord or become a Patron, you can ask different questions and such since he's very active there. Sometimes he does show up on here as well. He's a very good dev (Currently, lol). He's also open to suggestion as long as you aren't trying to change the course of the story. The next update actually comes out this Friday. I'm not his spokesman or anything; Just saying my experience and all.

 

[metallica57625]

I'm not a patron, but by the current roadmap the next ones will be in this order: Sarah, Sofia and Chloe (the last two in the same update).

That roadmap was actually updated. It's different now.