This is definitely a 'to each their own' situation, because i would much prefer Sarah's mom!
Ren'Py Shattered Minds [v0.19 Beta] [eXtasy Games]
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Zekethor2
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I hadn't played in a while, probably missed about three updates, but I finally did, and I enjoyed it. The whole planning arc with the dad was pretty cool. Still, I have a few important thoughts:
- How could Ava, who can literally read the MC’s mind, not find out about his plan to deal with her? The excuse is that he only thinks about it when he's out of his body, but that’s just impossible! Try it yourself: try not to think about a red elephant right now. You will anyway, hahaha.
- So besides hiding the fact that he knows about Ava, the MC also sets up this whole elaborate plan to deal with her. Then out of nowhere, he wants to go on a trip to a very specific location and coincidentally meets a woman there who can nullify powers, and Ava doesn’t suspect a thing?
- So what do I actually believe is going on? Either Ava is incredibly dumb, which doesn’t seem to be the case, or she’s known everything for a long time and is just pretending. But why would she do that? Simple: she wants to get to the MC’s father. She’s setting up a trap for him because he’s the only one who can stop her. Then, when the time is right, she’ll take full control over the MC, since she technically could’ve done it already.
- So here’s what I think is going to happen: she’s going to take over the MC, defeat his father, but something, or someone, is going to stop her. I have no idea what exactly, but I do find that blond agent from the agency, the one who saved us during the trial, very intriguing. He probably knows everything that’s going on and is pulling all the strings behind the scenes.
Bronzescorpion
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1) While true in the real world, there is some suspension of disbelief. The way it is presented in the universe Ava doesn't read his mind completely, just his active thoughts. A good example is during one of Scarlett's quests where Ava is directly asking the MC if his head is empty, because she can't see his thoughts, but at that point he simply isn't thinking clearly.
2) There are some hints that Ava suspects something. Notice her "!" during the quest. Definitely her being suspicious.
3) Remember you know more than Ava. She isn't aware of the father or that the MC recovered the memory of her telling her plan. Unless she planned to faking hiding the memories, because she knew the MC would find out and hatch a plan that involved his father, which seem beyond far fetched, then she doesn't know that the MC is aware of her betrayal.
4) The agent that "saved" you is clearly an antagonist and the only way I can perceive him aiding in stopping Ava, is because he wants to neutralize that power. He is not there to help you and he also wants to get hold of the MC's father. Quite a gambit if he actively helps you get Ava, even though he should have little reason to know of her.
Zekethor2
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I get it, but still, like, it’s not like I’m going to comb through every single dialogue in the game, but I’m assuming that at some point, Ava did manage to read the MC’s thoughts, even if he wasn’t actively reaching out to her. Maybe there’s a distinction to be made between different types of thoughts, like, our inner voice vs. unspoken feelings. For example, when the MC feels pleasure, he doesn’t necessarily say to himself “I’m feeling pleasure.” But when it comes to planning something, it's absolutely IMPOSSIBLE to do that without using your inner voice, and that is exactly what Ava would be able to hear. So yeah, I’m still not convinced...
Also, it’s not just one possibility. There are actually two that make sense to me. The first is that she really planned all of this from the start. Maybe she knew the protagonist would eventually remember, or maybe she made him remember somehow, without him even realizing it, all just to lure his father out. The second possibility is that he remembered on his own, and she found out afterward. But either way, she’s clearly pretending not to know anything... until the right moment.
And yeah, yeah, that guy is definitely way more dangerous than Ava. Any kind of "help" he offers is clearly just manipulation for his own agenda. I’m actually wondering if he has some kind of power too... wouldn’t surprise me at all.
I came back to this game after a long time... but was there a scene of Eleanor the math teacher crying in the morning after having sex the night before with MC. was this scene replaced with the sex scene being during tutoring?
There was also a option of ousting bill and making him forget everything or turning him into sissy?
There was also a option of ousting bill and making him forget everything or turning him into sissy?
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Bronzescorpion
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Nothing is replaced in regards to Eleanor. Her crying is just before you subdue her. You can also still choose whether Bill shall forget your friendship or turn trans.
In my game MC goes to Eleanor in the evening for tuitoring and for first time has sex with her in the sofa and returns to his room. There is no crying seen in the morning. Next time he goes to her apartment its a party.
Bronzescorpion
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And after that party they go back to hers and when he wakes up, her personality is split. It is as it always has been.
albrown
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can anyone tell me how to download this?? cause i can't download it. did anyone have another link?
Brommi
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Bronzescorpion
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You have absolutely no need for it, as the dev have put in a cheat menu in the game. Just go into options and enable it.
Training with Ava is the best way to grind stats but I am kinda nervous about that...she definitely seems like the kind of parasite that would take over the body entirely if given half a chance and the MC giving her energy seems like the worst possible idea in the universe. Does the game have a hidden tracker for how many times the player does it? It would be a miserable grind if we couldn't do it so it would be good if it was just a way to increase XP without backfiring in the player's face. The game definitely feels like it's heading towards some kind of major confrontation between the MC and Ava over who controls who.
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Zekethor2
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Yeah, it does. I had to play the whole game three times and got tired too. Just search for '0x52 urm f95zone'. You're welcome
You had to play the game 3 times? Why? As far as I am aware the game's ending isn't in yet, are there any checks for how many times you trained with Ava and if so what are the values the game checks for?
I suggest you finish the game as there something going on regarding ava. short version mc is not as stupid as she think.
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I think I read about it around here a bit, but is that avoidable? Because I didn't get the impression it was.
Looking at the roadmap for the game it looks like the issue with Ava will come to a head in 0.21 but the fact that the roadmap does not end there with more harem members and quests coming after gives me impression that the MC will figure out a way to get Ava under control...hopefully permanently this time.
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