VN Ren'Py Sicae [Ep.7] [NiiChan]

[Ka1tzer]

How is Karma implying she was raped? He straight up says: "If only the boss hadn't stopped me, I could've enjoyed her that-"

Yes he did say that "...hadn't stopped me...", but recall that it was clearly multiple people in there. It's not clear at what point of the "action" the MC starts hearing things since he can't see anything. That situation can easily be understood as Karma "not getting his turn", as opposed to nothing having taken place.

Besides, before Karma mentions the line about his boss, he taunts the MC about him watching the event.

Whenever the MC talks about it with other character, they always leave it ambiguous. I just would like a definite clear answer about it ingame, because that (especially in the context in which it does or doesn't happen) is quite a sensitive topic.

 

[bacienvu88]

Yes he did say that "...hadn't stopped me...", but recall that it was clearly multiple people in there. It's not clear at what point of the "action" the MC starts hearing things since he can't see anything. That situation can easily be understood as Karma "not getting his turn", as opposed to nothing having taken place.

Besides, before Karma mentions the line about his boss, he taunts the MC about him watching the event.

Whenever the MC talks about it with other character, they always leave it ambiguous. I just would like a definite clear answer about it ingame, because that (especially in the context in which it does or doesn't happen) is quite a sensitive topic.

There is evidence she wasn't raped, both in the openeing scene and the line I quoted from Karma. There is only vague interpretations and speculation on her being raped.

Besides, in the original version of LCC, she actually was raped, but that changed to not raped when NiiChan started over with the game.

 

[Ka1tzer]

There is evidence she wasn't raped, both in the openeing scene and the line I quoted from Karma. There is only vague interpretations and speculation on her being raped.

Besides, in the original version of LCC, she actually was raped, but that changed to not raped when NiiChan started over with the game.

That's exactly what I mean about it being ambiguous. There's only evidence that Karma himself didn't have the chance to do it, but it doesn't necessarily mean the same for the other assaulters.

Karma said "...if the boss hadn't stopped me", not "us". Might seem like a small thing, but it's in fact a pretty big deal when everything is ambiguous. The way it's phrased, he could just be venting out a frustration of never having the chance to do it himself while the others did.

Ambiguity is an extremely powerful writing device, and it being used on such a heavy topic really lays it thick on the discomfort.

 

[bacienvu88]

There's only evidence that Karma himself didn't have the chance to do it

but it's in fact a pretty big deal

No it isn't, because the opening scene is clear about Claire stopping anything from happening before it started.

The way it's phrased, he could just be venting out a frustration of never having the chance to do it himself while the others did.

Or much more likely, he doesn't care about anyone but himself.

 

[ArDZer]

Must say, this project is a very interesting one. There's something that's on my mind though.

Spoiler: A curious 180º turn about a certain lady

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[bacienvu88]

Must say, this project is a very interesting one. There's something that's on my mind though.

Spoiler: A curious 180º turn about a certain lady

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[rambo455]

any news on the next update that i might have missed ?

 

[bacienvu88]

any news on the next update that i might have missed ?

I think Niichan has said that next episode of Sicae will be after Ch1Ep3 of MBML.

 

[Ichigo Kurosaki Shiba]

Is Kana just a childhood friend,i think i remember her being Mc sister or something in previous iteration of the game

 

[MrLKX]

As far as I remember she was never the sister of the protagonist but only a pupil of her father and the two had grown up more or less together.

 

[bacienvu88]

Is Kana just a childhood friend,i think i remember her being Mc sister or something in previous iteration of the game

She is just childhood friend to MC. And they both belong to the same clan. She is the cousin of the MC in MBML however.

 

[Alexanderson037500aa]

So OEJ, why didn't you add a poll for this new thread?

 

[BeenThroughHell]

i miss this game hahaha

 

[Aramintha]

I absolutely love this game I played My Bully Is My Lover first and while its great I like Sicae way more now after playing it for my first time, I feel like the main character is much more interesting and confident plus the plot is way darker and interesting.

Both are still great games but Sicae just blew me away by how good it was but now comes the bad part and that is waiting for the next update to release which seems like its going to take a while, I have so many questions I cant wait to see how the story unfolds

 

[Tremonia]

Both are still great games but Sicae just blew me away by how good it was but now comes the bad part and that is waiting for the next update to release which seems like its going to take a while, I have so many questions I cant wait to see how the story unfolds

That's why I'm hating it when a dev works on two projects. But it's the decision the devs have to made. I'm just a consumer. If I remember correctly the rotation is 2 updates MBIML and then 1 update Sicae.

 

[Blueray]

is Ep 6 coming out this year?

 

[Aramintha]

That's why I'm hating it when a dev works on two projects. But it's the decision the devs have to made. I'm just a consumer. If I remember correctly the rotation is 2 updates MBIML and then 1 update Sicae.

Thats a shame I really like MBML but im not sure if this is a hot take but after playing both I like Sicae way more than MBML I kind of find the story more interesting and the characters seem way more mature in this game wish both games where made at the same pace because with that rotation Sicae is going to fall way behind and have very few updates per year

 

[bacienvu88]

That's why I'm hating it when a dev works on two projects. But it's the decision the devs have to made. I'm just a consumer.

I don't know. I do agree with you mostly. But the most important thing for the continued development of a game is that the devs are happy and motivated. And if working on two games helps with that I'm all for it; even if the games are being done slower as a result. Of course there are pitfalls as well, but Niichan has handled it well so far in my opinion.

PS. Fortunately AVNs don't have the same problem as web novels where some authors start a new book for the sole purpose of drum up traffic for some kind of award. And when that is over they abandon the book and start a new one.

 

[Tremonia]

But the most important thing for the continued development of a game is that the devs are happy and motivated. And if working on two games helps with that I'm all for it; even if the games are being done slower as a result.

Don't get me wrong. You're absolutely right about this. It's the devs decision. Sure, I for myself hate it when a dev works on several projects on the same time but I respect it 100%.

Of course there are pitfalls as well, but Niichan has handled it well so far in my opinion.

Of course. I would never say otherwise. As a consumer, I think it's just a disadvantage when you're working on two projects at the same time, as it delays the development times in both projects and there's always a chance that you'll completely neglect one project in the long run. You've just seen it too many times. As said, at the moment I can't complain at all about NiiChan's work. It's only my experience that makes me generally skeptical about working on two projects at the same time. This skepticism has nothing to do with NiiChan.

 

[bacienvu88]

Don't get me wrong. You're absolutely right about this. It's the devs decision. Sure, I for myself hate it when a dev works on several projects on the same time but I respect it 100%.
Of course. I would never say otherwise. As a consumer, I think it's just a disadvantage when you're working on two projects at the same time, as it delays the development times in both projects and there's always a chance that you'll completely neglect one project in the long run. You've just seen it too many times. As said, at the moment I can't complain at all about NiiChan's work. It's only my experience that makes me generally skeptical about working on two projects at the same time. This skepticism has nothing to do with NiiChan.

As I see it, many of these games take a really long time to develop, spanning several years (MBML was first released in January 2021) and doing the same thing for so long can be very mentally draining. Some devs use a side project to alleviate that, others watch Netflix, hanging out with friends & family or doing some other hobby. So a dev having a side project may be a good thing. I know BlackWebGames uses Mother Lover's Society and Sexcraft that way while having Dog Days of Summer as the main project. Of course it can lead to the main game being neglected as well, but that is true for Netflix etc. as well.

That said, having two equal main projects on one dev is not likely to end well. But if I've understood correctly Niichan treats MBML as the main and Sicae as side project until MBML is done.