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I have and that was weird but still okay. I'm not sad about what these characters are now, I'm sad that it's so forced in retroactively. If it was done like this from the start it would be over the top but fine, but it clearly wasn't planned like this when the rework was done. It feels like bad writing, where it ends up with every major challenge the characters face, there's a hidden superpower some character secretly had the whole time that now saves the day, aka a deus ex machina.
To put it simply, it had no direction. Now it has. The way it is now is where I want the story to head into. If you feel that way, I'm sorry to disappoint you.
 

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To put it simply, it had no direction. Now it has. The way it is now is where I want the story to head into. If you feel that way, I'm sorry to disappoint you.
You didn't disappoint me that's for sure however I can see that you & Caribdis are defiantly thick as thieves when it comes to cliffhangers.:devilish::ROFLMAO:
 

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To put it simply, it had no direction. Now it has. The way it is now is where I want the story to head into. If you feel that way, I'm sorry to disappoint you.
Wtf, you mean to tell me you're a human being who improves and the story can have flaws and isn't perfect from the beginning?

Shame on you, I expected better from you omniscient being behind the screen giving me adult stories to play :HideThePain:
 

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aka a deus ex machina
I did not see the mention of deus ex machina, so I will try to clarify that. Yes, I am aware of its usage. Its presence in the story doesn't always scream it's already bad. There are ways to make it work: Proper world-building, a build-up, or a backstory. These three elements are the key to lessen the plot device's sudden or abrupt effect. In Lance's case, the entirety of episode 5 implies that he has something hidden; by the end of episode 5, it is confirmed, and episode 6's intro reveals what it is, then the usage of it during the final fight scene. Not to mention the mention of serums and what they are. This is the same in Nicole's case during episode 4; now, the reveal in episode 6. Its existence isn't always lazy or bad writing when there are apparent implications or clues dropped beforehand. Otherwise, I would have puked about the idea of it myself.
 

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Uh i think aurora at least was in mbml which kinda confirms her as a li (probably?) and at least shina was mentioned to be an assassin too
Uhm, to answer you and those who asked, they got put to the side. If you check the replay menu, there's a panel with (?). That's where I'd put their scenes in case we get to feature them. Admittedly, aside from Aurora, I don't have solid plans for them anymore. Also Shina isn't an assassin. :KEK: The Iteza Clan isn't an assassin clan. I guess this isn't much of a spoiler, but Iteza is a clan that produces advanced technological medicine. Yuna, as she is now, is the only one who became an assassin.
 
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Uhm, to answer you and those who asked, they got put to the side. If you check the replay menu, there's a panel with (?). That's where I'd put their scenes in case we get to feature them. Admittedly, aside from Aurora, I don't have solid plans for them anymore. Also Shina isn't an assassin. :KEK: The Iteza Clan isn't an assassin clan. I guess this isn't much of a spoiler, but Iteza is a clan that produces advanced technological medicine. Yuna, as she is now, is the only one who became an assassin.
My definition of assassin was like "part of a sicae clan" or wasnt the Iteza Clan part of the Sicae? poking for spoilers

I mean not even all members of the dietrich clan seem to be literal assassins if youre not sneakily turning jess and eliza into sword throwing killers too at a later point :geek:
 

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My definition of assassin was like "part of a sicae clan" or wasnt the Iteza Clan part of the Sicae? poking for spoilers

I mean not even all members of the dietrich clan seem to be literal assassins if youre not sneakily turning jess and eliza into sword throwing killers too at a later point :geek:
Nope, Iteza is an independent clan from Sicae. They aren't connected by any means.

And nah, those two are the crew's tactical brains. Otherwise, people will complain that it's so forced retroactively, that it's bad writing, abrupt change of story, and that it wasn't planned
 

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I did not see the mention of deus ex machina, so I will try to clarify that. Yes, I am aware of its usage. Its presence in the story doesn't always scream it's already bad. There are ways to make it work: Proper world-building, a build-up, or a backstory. These three elements are the key to lessen the plot device's sudden or abrupt effect. In Lance's case, the entirety of episode 5 implies that he has something hidden; by the end of episode 5, it is confirmed, and episode 6's intro reveals what it is, then the usage of it during the final fight scene. Not to mention the mention of serums and what they are. This is the same in Nicole's case during episode 4; now, the reveal in episode 6. Its existence isn't always lazy or bad writing when there are apparent implications or clues dropped beforehand. Otherwise, I would have puked about the idea of it myself.
I think what seemed most out of place to me was Eliza. Sure she was always teased as being good with computers, but ended up with some next level secret hacker skills. That felt a "little too convenient" to me at that moment. Maybe it was just too many reveals in one place, so it felt like you were just making stuff up to get the story base where you now want it to be.
 

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I picked up this game on a whim after Caribdis endorsed it in his discord, and I'm not gonna lie, for the first two chapters I was really struggling why he would do that. To me it seemed like a copy of "My Real Desire", ugly aesthetic and all. I was just about ready to drop it, when all of a sudden midway through chapter 3 the general production quality suddenly locked in, and it felt like I was playing a whole different game. I'm really glad to have stuck around since then especially through this most recent update which has really given the production team the opportunity to show off their skills. Keep up the good work, Nii Chan and co!
 

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I picked up this game on a whim after Caribdis endorsed it in his discord, and I'm not gonna lie, for the first two chapters I was really struggling why he would do that. To me it seemed like a copy of "My Real Desire", ugly aesthetic and all. I was just about ready to drop it, when all of a sudden midway through chapter 3 the general production quality suddenly locked in, and it felt like I was playing a whole different game. I'm really glad to have stuck around since then especially through this most recent update which has really given the production team the opportunity to show off their skills. Keep up the good work, Nii Chan and co!

The beginning feels a bit slow and rough in places. Some early chapters show slightly outdated technical aspects, and the story starts off feeling somewhat disconnected from what it eventually becomes. Daily life scenes, moments of socializing between housemates, and the protagonist’s workdays tend to drag a little. Dialogue can feel flat, and many scenes lack momentum or emotional pull at this stage.

It initially follows a fairly standard 'harem game' formula before shifting into something much deeper and more engaging. For those who stick with it, the effort definitely pays off.

Once the story picks up, the overall atmosphere becomes one of its biggest strengths. Narrative stakes rise, there are plenty of twists, emotionally powerful scenes come into play, and action takes over more toward the end. The cast of romantic interests is large and mostly endearing.

Because of how many characters there are, though, romantic development can feel a bit rushed. Relationships often build quickly, sometimes relying on flashbacks, a recurring technique across both games, which can make things feel slightly compressed.

Still, these issues don’t take away too much from the experience. It stays enjoyable, even compelling, and I’m genuinely having a good time with it.

I'm really glad the main plot is finally gaining momentum. It was long overdue and now I can't wait to see what happens next. The cliffhanger wrapped things up nicely, hinting at tension, action and probably a bit of drama.

I was honestly surprised to see Irene show up so early. I expected that reunion to happen later, maybe right in the middle of the conflict with Aveline and her group. But still, it was great to see her again after all this time. Poor girl. x)
 
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The early part of the game may seem a little bit arduous, with some chapters suffering from slightly outdated technical elements and an opening storyline that appear quite distant from what it will later become. Certain initial aspects, such as slice-of-life scenes, moments of socialization between the housemates, and the main character's working days, appear rather redundant or tepid, and the dialogues a bit flat, the scenes lacking a little drive and interest in this part of the game.

In fact, the beginning of the game is basically structured as a fairly classic harem game, before evolving into a completely different plot. Nevertheless, for those who persevere and invest themselves in the game, their efforts are rewarded.

The game's atmosphere is truly excellent, with strong narrative stakes, numerous little plot twists, emotionally striking scenes, plenty of action towards the end, and a large cast of sympathetic characters among the love interests. Admittedly, the time spent with the latter may seem insufficient due to their sheer number, which creates a certain sense of haste, as the development of sentimental relationships takes place over a rather short period of time and often by means of several flashbacks (a common feature of both games).

But despite these few points, the game manages to remain bearable and very enjoyable, and I'm having a great time with it.

I'm delighted that the main plot is finally taking off, it's about time, and naturally I can't wait to find out what happens next. The cliffhanger at the end was pleasant, foreshadowing moments of tension, action and no doubt a little drama. I must admit I was surprised to see Irene back so early in the story; I'd expected their reunion to come only after some time, in the midst of the conflict with Aveline and her henchmen. But otherwise it's nice to hear from her after all this time, poor thing. x)
I think this is so funny. The first three chapters really are very ... lets say simple quality and story wise. Back than when i played it, i quitted it two times during the first three chapters. Looked like just the usual boring story harem with barely interesting characters.

Thats why i think its hilarious how regularly some people appear in this thread bitching about that the avn changed away from that setup while it got so incredibly more awesome due to it :ROFLMAO:

I think some people just want to fuck their (incest) household (sorry mbml) in every game no matter what, fuck the story :ROFLMAO:
 
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This is an announcement for what I understand to be the end of the chapter, part of the main story, right ? I admit that I didn't pay too much attention to the titles between each update/chapters.
 
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This is an announcement for what I understand to be the end of the chapter, part of the main story, right ? I admit that I didn't pay too much attention to the titles between each update/chapters.
Eh, the titles don't really matter much. To me, they simply serve as bookmarks to emphasize the start and end of an episode. What matters most is what the episode contains. More than half of the readers probably don't pay any mind to it.

Here, in Sicae though, I call it a series instead of chapters. But unlike MBML, the episode numbering will be continuous.
For example, the series we are on right now is called "Gathering of the forgotten names." The next series will then start at episode 8, which will have a different title.
 

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I assume that the next episode will deal with the conclusion of the team's rallying around the main character, and the Dietrich clan, among other things of course as the final cliffhanger suggests. What's the planned road map between MBL and Sicae, and when can we expect this future episode 7 ?

But then these “series” count as chapters that span several episodes, marking the progression of the main story and its key moments, I presume ? I suspect that at the very end of the game, this will be a good memory aid for finding your way around the story.
 

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What's the planned road map between MBL and Sicae, and when can we expect this future episode 7 ?
Do you wanna get disappointed? :KEK:
Currently, we are running 3:1 in favor of MBML. If you're new, this game has not been updated for over a year before episode 6. But, I'm running a patron poll later to see if people want another Sicae update or simply proceed with MBML's chapter two (this is me not coping/hoping for episode 7 at all). Unfortunately, MBML is the most popular one of the two. But if it ever happens that Sicae will pick up popularity, I'm ready to swap priorities and focus on this instead. Because if you ask me, this is where the real shit is at.
But then these “series” count as chapters that span several episodes, marking the progression of the main story and its key moments, I presume ?
Exactly.
 
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