Gotcha, if the item didn't work then it might be related to the combat processing. It needs AP too btw, so make sure that when you use the item, you have enough AP for the character. If you had to delete the game, it might have been an issue with the persistent file data. I'll look into it and thanks for testing!
A Struggle with Sin, A Family Venture, Our Red String, Long Story Short, Golden Mean, Babysitter, Babysitters, Gunpowder Cocktail. and plenty of others I can't think of off the top of my head. There is definitely more than 1 single game with optional NTR that is successful.
Sorry about the rough experience, Saving and Loading just doesn't play well with the new combat system as of 0.2.1. As for the troll, you'll need to use a specific item to kill it (it should be in Item), though that assumes that the combat is working well. From the reports so far, combat breaks when loading a save game, restarting the game through the main menu or not closing and opening the game to restart. Thanks for trying to build!
i hope so. can be fun to see bad "what if scenarios", but can ruin characters if it becomes an entire route of its own
but did you somehow load a save file ?
Right now, it's hard to say exactly how the final version of the game will look. On Patreon, a lot of people are really enjoying the NTR bad end, but the game was never originally designed with pure NTR as its main focus. In my view, NTR works better as a consequence of the player's choices rather than the core of the experience. As Sossse put it, it’s a fun "what if" scenario, which is why the alternate reality path for Lili exists, but full-on NTR doesn’t quite fit since the game was built as a power fantasy first and foremost. What I can promise is that I'll probably end up ticking off most of the popular tags you see on F95, because I love the idea of giving players total freedom. As I build the engine more, there should be even options to plug in your own characters with their own stat sheets.
i have no idea how this even happened but thank you for reporting this!
Just because A game was successful doesn't mean it was improved because of optional NTR since there's no way of knowing if it would have made more money by sticking to one or the other. Now what I can say is that personally I will never give money in support of any game that has optional NTR, since if I'm going to support A project I'd rather support one where I enjoy 100% of the content in it, not 75%, 50% etc. There's A much smaller amount of people who enjoy both NTR and Vanilla/Harem rather than one or the other, because of that you're always going to satisfy one side more than the other and your audience will eventually lean heavily to one side, with the other side eventually growing more dissatisfied. You're always better off just sticking to one side since since that means your entire audience will more or less be on the same page, meaning you can focus on making the content your audience actually likes instead of splitting your time developing opposing fetishes for completely different audiences.
You're better off just not having NTR in the game at all if that wasn't what you originally intended, because now you just going to get supporters that are only here for the NTR and not for the power fantasy, if anything you're going to simply lose support of those who'd like A power fantasy Romance/Harem experience myself included. Just to be clear fetishes are not like game genres, more is not always better and making A game with every fetish under the sun including diametrically opposed fetishes like NTR/Harem is going to satisfy no one and heavily limit your supporters. Those who hate NTR aren't going to suddenly like it, adding it to the game is not giving the player more freedom, it's doing the opposite, if A person doesn't like A fetish they'll avoid it like the plague meaning you're now shrinking the amount of content they could have had, since now they need to stick to A very miniscule amount of content that is only going to get smaller since you'll be making even more content for fetishes they never wanted and will never like.
You are also not giving a dev a chance to do it. Your sole argument is "we can't tell if optional even helps, so don't even try" isn't helpful because you can say the opposite as well, you can't really prove it doesn't either. The question should be, can the game be successful with it? The other games proved it can. I am someone who loves it when a game has both as options, as it can satisfy both my romantic side and my fetish side, you seem to think people like me are much smaller and there is a war going on between only doing vanilla or only doing NTR, that's just not true. Most people I think actually just easily avoid doing content they don't like. The games given to you prove this, yet you are ignoring them with "what ifs" that can never be proven. In fact, I would say you are at a disadvantage here because people I've come across that like NTR usually also like the vanilla routes too, thus will still support projects if the content is mostly vanilla with slight optional NTR stuff, but that doesn't go the other way around, the dev even said it himself how a lot of people already on his patreon liked the bad end scenes.
