VN Ren'Py Single Again [v1.24.1.1] [Clever name games]

[HiP1]

Becca told MC that they finished phase 3 of her plan and can move to phase 4. but quickly dodge when MC asked what phase 1 and 2 were. she also said that she worked on her plan for 5 years, so when she reached 18 years old.
we can easily guess that phase 2 would be to get rid of her mother, so she might have provoked the events that lead to the cheating and MC finding out. Was she the voice the sent MC home early? Did she manage to get in touch with her mom's ex and make him contact her mom?
phase 1, though, might be harder to guess. but if she was in love with MC since she was 12-13 years old and began working on her plans when she saw her parents drifting apart, it is weird that she would also date other guys and explore sexual stuff with them. we know she is super loyal to MC, and she wanted to save herself for him, so there should be no reason for her to have boyfriends. From that, I think her phase 1 might have been to prepare herself and learn skills to be MC's girlfriend and be able to seduce and satisfy him. even if it could be considered as a bit of betrayal of her feelings, it would be a means to an end, which would fit her character and personality. getting comfortable and confident when being looked at and touched, and also confident with a dick in hand, might have been important for the success of her plans. and it seems she chose guys that were similar to her target so she could practice her manipulation and seduction techniques

 

[philfire61]

I repeat what is said in my previous intervention. Mc, it seems quite realistic to me ... The doubts present in his head seem to me in line with the thoughts of the great majority of people, in any situation (not necessarily on sex). The continuous waiting for something to happen between him and Abby, considering the relationship with the deceased wife, I find him adequate (even if he does not respect the canons of the AVNs). The only thing, which I would find intriguing, would be if, one of the secrets held by Becca, was Frank's natural daughter. Unfortunately, I found enough data, to eliminate this hypothesis. Becca was born in March. To return to conception and subsequent pregnancy of nine months, it should have been born in January, or, at most early February. All this, I deducted it from Frank's flashbacks. When Shannon left him, and Jessica went to the room, to console him. According to the dialogues, it had been in the room for a month, and summer was coming. Of course, if the DEV wanted to rewrite the date of birth, it would have a great very exciting event, to be inserted. We add the fact that Frank is no longer a boy, and a biological daughter, it would be a nice event.

 

[GrammerCop]

No one cares.

I know.

Dev isn't on the forum...so...

I don't care.

 

[philfire61]

Becca told MC that they finished phase 3 of her plan and can move to phase 4. but quickly dodge when MC asked what phase 1 and 2 were. she also said that she worked on her plan for 5 years, so when she reached 18 years old.
we can easily guess that phase 2 would be to get rid of her mother, so she might have provoked the events that lead to the cheating and MC finding out. Was she the voice the sent MC home early? Did she manage to get in touch with her mom's ex and make him contact her mom?
phase 1, though, might be harder to guess. but if she was in love with MC since she was 12-13 years old and began working on her plans when she saw her parents drifting apart, it is weird that she would also date other guys and explore sexual stuff with them. we know she is super loyal to MC, and she wanted to save herself for him, so there should be no reason for her to have boyfriends. From that, I think her phase 1 might have been to prepare herself and learn skills to be MC's girlfriend and be able to seduce and satisfy him. even if it could be considered as a bit of betrayal of her feelings, it would be a means to an end, which would fit her character and personality. getting comfortable and confident when being looked at and touched, and also confident with a dick in hand, might have been important for the success of her plans. and it seems she chose guys that were similar to her target so she could practice her manipulation and seduction techniques

As you say, it would be very plausible. It would only miss a strong motivation. My personal idea, it would be if ... Becca discovered that MC is his biological father (as I have already said elsewhere, they do not combine the dates ... pity), he called Mc Dad, only secretly, when he saw the family crumble , has decided to act. He made sure to bring together Mother and "Father", called MC by phone for a "emergency" at home, leading to divorce. He organized the interview with the judge, and started seduction (not being able to "tie" Mc as a father, he did it as a lover). He also organized the Harem, as the only way to keep the family united. As a chronological development, it seems logical. As I repeat, the possibility that the Becca is the biological daughter of Frank is only lacking. In history, a possible examination of the DNA could be added, made in secret many years earlier, and kept hidden by Becca. Killer7, if you read this, I would have an orgasmic pleasure, if you want to insert it in history ...

 

[Maviarab]

As you say, it would be very plausible. It would only miss a strong motivation. My personal idea, it would be if ... Becca discovered that MC is his biological father (as I have already said elsewhere, they do not combine the dates ... pity), he called Mc Dad, only secretly, when he saw the family crumble , has decided to act. He made sure to bring together Mother and "Father", called MC by phone for a "emergency" at home, leading to divorce. He organized the interview with the judge, and started seduction (not being able to "tie" Mc as a father, he did it as a lover). He also organized the Harem, as the only way to keep the family united. As a chronological development, it seems logical. As I repeat, the possibility that the Becca is the biological daughter of Frank is only lacking. In history, a possible examination of the DNA could be added, made in secret many years earlier, and kept hidden by Becca. Killer7, if you read this, I would have an orgasmic pleasure, if you want to insert it in history ...

When did she (Becca) become a he?

Wtf has Killer7 got to do with this VN?

 

[Zoey Raven]

Zoey Raven In regards to the walkthrough, does selecting the green option simply result in more scenes?
For example, personally, I'm not interested in lesbian with strap-ons, so is there anything bad with selecting the "Uhhh, I don't wanna know about it" option?

I do this from the dev walkthrough and generally use the choices they make green in the PDF/WORD file. So, I would guess it's what the dev thinks is best. When it's a choice like where to cum I leave the up to you, but other than that I follow the dev walkthough exclusively.

Because, they know what's coming and I don't. If I were doing this and a show all scenes walkthrough it would be different, but this story don't lend itself to that. Hope that helps.

 

[Elduriel]

As you say, it would be very plausible. It would only miss a strong motivation. My personal idea, it would be if ... Becca discovered that MC is his biological father (as I have already said elsewhere, they do not combine the dates ... pity), he called Mc Dad, only secretly, when he saw the family crumble , has decided to act. He made sure to bring together Mother and "Father", called MC by phone for a "emergency" at home, leading to divorce. He organized the interview with the judge, and started seduction (not being able to "tie" Mc as a father, he did it as a lover). He also organized the Harem, as the only way to keep the family united. As a chronological development, it seems logical. As I repeat, the possibility that the Becca is the biological daughter of Frank is only lacking. In history, a possible examination of the DNA could be added, made in secret many years earlier, and kept hidden by Becca. Killer7, if you read this, I would have an orgasmic pleasure, if you want to insert it in history ...

just forget about it already, there won't be real incest in the game. You can theory-craft all you want, it won't happen. Also what does this have to do with Killer7? Entirely different game.

 

[RodrigoOSan]

I repeat what is said in my previous intervention. Mc, it seems quite realistic to me ... The doubts present in his head seem to me in line with the thoughts of the great majority of people, in any situation (not necessarily on sex).

It's a fucking porn game, fiction, not real life. You don't need to keep repeating all the unnecessary thoughts when THE READER ALREADY KNOWS. Characters need development and when you keep putting thoughts and doubts (instead of resolving them) in his head like a fucking drama queen you're not developing them. If i wanted a realistic person i could simply delete this game and interact with other people.

 

[Dr. Mick]

It's a fucking porn game, fiction, not real life. You don't need to keep repeating all the unnecessary thoughts when THE READER ALREADY KNOWS. Characters need development and when you keep putting thoughts and doubts (instead of resolving them) in his head like a fucking drama queen you're not developing them. If i wanted a realistic person i could simply delete this game and interact with other people.

Seriously, there has been character development. It has been slow, and slight, however there has been some.
Did he go from being a wishy-washy milktoast wuss to an alpha uber chad? No, of course not.

If you've been with the story from the beginning though, you will notice there has been a definite change.
In the start, Frank denied everything, wouldn't admit any feelings of any kind, and seemed borderline horrified by the very possibilities of what was being presented to him.

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As I've said before, Frank isn't perfect. He's dealing with a lot, and coming to terms with a nontraditional relationship.
To be blunt, if he made a quick 180 swing in personality I'd find it even more off-putting than some recurring doubts.
Regardless of being a fictional story, it still has to be somewhat realistic, or it wouldn't be remotely believable and people would lose interest in the characters.
Think about it. If Frank started out a caring semi-normal middle-aged single father, and became a fuckboy who didn't care about anything but getting his dick wet even with his daughters, wouldn't that be weirder?

Just enjoy the story, stop worrying about Frank's internal monologue so much, or move on to something else.
If it bothers you that much, there are hundreds of alternatives out there.

My two cents.

 

[Cartageno]

When did she (Becca) become a he?

Probably their mother tongue doesn't have grammatical genders for people, so either they struggle with it or the automated translation breaks down. (E. g. in Finnish, there is no way to differentiate between "he" and "she", both are "hän", and songs and stories have used that to throw some misdirection and/or ambiguity into their text.)

It's a fucking porn game, fiction, not real life. You don't need to keep repeating all the unnecessary thoughts when THE READER ALREADY KNOWS. Characters need development and when you keep putting thoughts and doubts (instead of resolving them) in his head like a fucking drama queen you're not developing them. If i wanted a realistic person i could simply delete this game and interact with other people.

... and even in fiction, stories can use the part where they decide to deviate from reality differently. For what it's worth, there are enough stories out there where the respective MC goes over any reservations about incest in next to no time at all, but there is no reason why it can't be different in this one. Some like movies about heroes running through towns killing everybody, some like it when they reflect about what their actions might mean.

 

[Truvelo]

There is no hope for this game, each subsequent update is a copy of previous events and scenes and has been like this for several years

 

[Dr. Coom]

Is there any -- fucking -- progress -- with Abby in this update?

At this point goonbux just feel like two-thirds of the Blue Man Group.

 

[Crimsonfiend76]

Is there any -- fucking -- progress -- with Abby in this update?

At this point goonbux just feel like two-thirds of the Blue Man Group.

Oh, there's progress, possibly just not the type you were looking for. Frank and by extension Lilly finally got their wish come true and wore Abby down to where she and Lilly are a couple now and dating. Isn't that great?!

What's better than one lesbian couple where Frank is only banging one of the girls (with the other's permission)? That's right... Two lesbian couples where Frank is allowed to only have sex with one of the girls... wish I totally didn't see this coming.

 

[HiHaHo]

Oh, there's progress, possibly just not the type you were looking for. Frank and by extension Lilly finally got their wish come true and wore Abby down to where she and Lilly are a couple now and dating. Isn't that great?!

yeah she committed to lily whilst saying:"ill always be daddy's girl" the signs are obvious
i don't feel the need to explain why it hasn't happend yet because there is 10 hours off MC internal monologue that covers that

 

[Crimsonfiend76]

I probably should have just stopped playing this years ago before I got too invested in the story, but like a car wreck, I can't not keep seeing how this story plays out while trying to predict where or how it will get to it's inevitable conclusion.

 

[ChocoVanilla]

it's because you want to identify as the MC when you play a game. but in this game, the MC is not the player. the player doesn't even choose the main LI.

 

[Dr. Mick]

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Right, it says "how" the story progresses.
It doesn't say what that progression is, or why, nor does it say to what extent that how applies.
I can get from point A to point C by driving, taking a train, or walking. All of them get me there it's just how that changes.

Got the feeling a couple chapters ago that the author had an idea of how the story would start and finish in mind when they started writing. Each of the chapters since then has simply been filling in the journey between.

Sit back and enjoy the ride, or read something else.

 

[hobobobb]

Oh, there's progress, possibly just not the type you were looking for. Frank and by extension Lilly finally got their wish come true and wore Abby down to where she and Lilly are a couple now and dating. Isn't that great?!

What's better than one lesbian couple where Frank is only banging one of the girls (with the other's permission)? That's right... Two lesbian couples where Frank is allowed to only have sex with one of the girls... wish I totally didn't see this coming.

Glad to see I'm not the only one getting a "This is turning into BS" Vibe.

Personally, I am of the opinion that sexual relations with people outside of the Harem, is Cheating/NTR/Cucking (use whatever term you want). I don't care that it's two girls, gender isn't important.

If the fucking around its between harem members, thats one thing, but outside of the Harem isn't something I enjoy playing/reading (and yes, I know that Abby will eventually be drawn into the Harem, It doesn't matter as she isn't a part of it right now).

Still, I probably should have expected this from this Dev given that;

- Game starts with NTR, which while not my favorite plot devices, or in any way original, I can at least understand it as a jumping off point.

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- Dev makes a whole NTR arc to the game, but dodges the Tag by putting that CANON chapter of the story in a separate download.


Sadly, this latest update is kind of a final stray for me.

I've gone from $upporting this game (until the Lillith NTR chapter),
To just playing it every couple of updates,
To probably just ignoring it from now on.

The Dev can and should make whatever game they want. While I think this is very well written, I don't enjoy the direction that writing is going.

I can just imagine an update where Frank (MC) sits back and watches the girls have some kind of gangbang/strapon orgy, while he sips a cafe, and has an existential crisis, pondering if it's ok for him to enjoy it.

Again if that's the direction that the Dev wants to go, all the power to them.

But I for one am done following.

\Drunk rant over\

 

[Maviarab]

Glad to see I'm not the only one getting a "This is turning into BS" Vibe.

Personally, I am of the opinion that sexual relations with people outside of the Harem, is Cheating/NTR/Cucking (use whatever term you want). I don't care that it's two girls, gender isn't important.

If the fucking around its between harem members, thats one thing, but outside of the Harem isn't something I enjoy playing/reading (and yes, I know that Abby will eventually be drawn into the Harem, It doesn't matter as she isn't a part of it right now).

Still, I probably should have expected this from this Dev given that;

- Game starts with NTR, which while not my favorite plot devices, or in any way original, I can at least understand it as a jumping off point.

&

- Dev makes a whole NTR arc to the game, but dodges the Tag by putting that CANON chapter of the story in a separate download.


Sadly, this latest update is kind of a final stray for me.

I've gone from $upporting this game (until the Lillith NTR chapter),
To just playing it every couple of updates,
To probably just ignoring it from now on.

The Dev can and should make whatever game they want. While I think this is very well written, I don't enjoy the direction that writing is going.

I can just imagine an update where Frank (MC) sits back and watches the girls have some kind of gangbang/strapon orgy, while he sips a cafe, and has an existential crisis, pondering if it's ok for him to enjoy it.

Again if that's the direction that the Dev wants to go, all the power to them.

But I for one am done following.

\Drunk rant over\

 

[RodrigoOSan]

I couldn't finish the update. The same boring ass situation with the same boring ass talking and the same boring ass MC internal cuck monologue. I guess i will just press skip just to see the sex scenes because the rest is not worthy.

I was expecting more about this since i was waiting to play this game until get enough updates. 4 fucking years and the dev is still milking this shit with minimal character development.