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Maviarab

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Is there any option to avoid getting into a relationship with Abigail? I've gotten annoyed with the soft femdom since it's been increasing in frequency. I figured at the least we could have some kind of equal relationship if not maledom, but it seems like there's no option for that. Come on, this game has "corruption" as a tag and it's feeling less Parental Love and more like some awful femdom game.

I've gone back to the beginning because I'm not at all a fan of where the story was progressing and it feels like none of my choices are making a difference. Like, where's the "move the fuck out so she can't continue this stupid power trip" option? Lilly's fine and Becca's great and it'd be nice to have the option to just pick one or two of the girls and exclude Abigail.
Wtf are you actually on about?
 
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quorkboy

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I think they're referring to things like Abby playfully "manipulating" the MC into sleeping in her bed and in his underwear. This in my opinion isn't femdom. If the MC were to put his foot down and say "enough!" I'm betting she'd stop. In my mind, despite his inner monologue and outer protests, this is something he really wants so he's going along with it.
 

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magneticbird

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Am I the only one who can't get the mac version of the full game to unzip? I tried all the different download options, downloaded them all, and they all fail.
 

felicemastronzo

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I think they're referring to things like Abby playfully "manipulating" the MC into sleeping in her bed and in his underwear. This in my opinion isn't femdom. If the MC were to put his foot down and say "enough!" I'm betting she'd stop. In my mind, despite his inner monologue and outer protests, this is something he really wants so he's going along with it.
not strictly in a sexual sense, but as an atmosphere, as dynamics between the characters it is quite femdom.

let's be clear, for me it is not a problem, on the contrary I find it a modern perspective

in almost every situation when a problem arises it is a female character who saves the protagonist, who in addition to being "good" usually does little else besides complaining.

when divorce goes badly his stepdaughters save him on their own initiative, from the difficult economic moment he is saved by a lesbian couple who in addition to money also give him sexual relief, from the potential difficult time with Abigail he is saved by his stepdaughter who theoretically appreciates him less and the daughter herself who in the end actually apologizes to him (an event more unique than rare in the genre)
 
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Maviarab

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It's not femdom at all...in the slightest. Manipulation and cooersion is not femdom.


I gave the dad Abigail and Vanessa the same name color as Beth as her's showed up great in the latest update.

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Maybe you should make your own game as you think you can improve others.
 

quorkboy

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Words have meaning. Some are more ambiguous than others and may need interpretation from context. Femdom has a meaning that is not ambiguous and here does not apply.

The person to whom I replied misused the term and characterised Abby as being on a power trip. This does not fit the narrative of the game. She's not in a position of true power. Her owning the home is irrelevant. Under no circumstances would she kick the MC out if he refused to "obey." She's a teenager playing a game.
 

Golgari

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Alright, since none of you seem to know the difference between "hard" femdom (AKA whips and chains and leather, ect) and "soft" femdom (AKA mommy-dom, manipulative, game-playing to get the male to do as she says, ect), I'll rephrase my question.

Is there a way to avoid getting in a relationship with Abby?
 
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LWtbo

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Only thing really off-putting about this game is that once again a developer couldn't contain himself on the dick slider. Come on man, I get that you want to put a big porn dick in a porn game, but do you really need to outdo Mandingo?
Yes. Seriously, it looks ridiculous. I have no problem with it being a little larger than life. But come on. This one is like those games where the women have breasts twice the size of their heads. And since this game seems to have managed to have real life sized breasts, couldn't we have the MC with a large if it must be but at least realistic dick?
I only played the first upload of this game and was waiting untill there was mention of MC haveing Sex before trying it again.
I like the first initro start of the game It was interesting and somewhat diffrent and was looking forward to more.

I was looking forward to downloading this update and trying the game again.
But now instead I would really like to thank both of these two members since this is a particular pet hate of mine in most games these days, you have both done me a favour of saving me the time and trouble of bothering to download and play a game that I would only end up closing down and deleting the moment the MC drops his pants.

seriously thank you both if only I had this type of warning on all the games I tried life would be so much less disapointing.

That said even though I think its a mistake that any Dev do's this I still wish them well with their game.
 
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Maviarab

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And another for the ignore list....Golg...again..wtf?


I only played the first upload of this game and was waiting untill there was mention of MC haveing Sex before trying it again.
I like the first initro start of the game It was interesting and somewhat diffrent and was looking forward to more.

so I was looking forward to downloading this update and trying the game again.
But now instead I would really like to thank both of these two members since this is a particular pet hate of mine in most games these days you have both done me a favour of saving me the time and trouble of bothering to download and play a game that I would only end up closing down and deleting the moment the MC drops his pants.

seriously thank you both if only I had this type of warning on all the games I tried life would be so much less disapointing.

That said even though I think its a mistake that any Dev do's this I still wish them well with their game.
While I really do get you...there really can't be too many adult VN's you play then. it is an unfortunate porn trope in games which i guess you either just have to go with or give up on (like dumb-ass protags....stupid plots...women falling over themselves at your feet etc etc etc).
 
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Alright, since none of you seem to know the difference between "hard" femdom (AKA whips and chains and leather, ect) and "soft" femdom (AKA mommy-dom, manipulative, game-playing to get the male to do as she says, ect), I'll rephrase my question.

Is there a way to avoid getting in a relationship with Abby? I find her character obnoxious and pushy and regardless of what the MC wants, I want to have a choice in the matter. If not I'll look to another game.
Short answer: no.

This game is developed by a single person. Before he created it he came up with a narrative, that of the single father and his daughter + two step-daughters. Father-daughter incest is the central theme here, so even though there are some choices that influence the story in small ways it was clear from the start that you would end up with Abby and possibly also with Lilly and Becca. You can't expect a single developer to create an entire alternate storyline for the few people that don't like the daughter. That would require a lot of extra work and cause a huge delay.
 
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Golgari

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Short answer: no.

This game is developed by a single person. Before he created it he came up with a narrative, that of the single father and his daughter + two step-daughters. Father-daughter incest is the central theme here, so even though you have some choices that influence the story in small ways it was clear from the start that you will and up with Abby and possibly also with Lilly and Becca. You can't expect a single developer to create an entire alternate storyline for the few people that don't like the daughter. That would require a lot of extra work and be a huge delay.
That's entirely fair. I didn't realize it was only one Dev. Thanks for the information.
 

Angel Espinal

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anybody willing to share a save? it is the third time i finish this game and for some stupid reason my Renpy folder does not save the fucking save after i delete the game.
 
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