ArDZer

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It would be a major twist if he did try to get Beth pregnant and then they found out he's firing blanks.
And in case Frank does fire full loads, what if Beth ends up giving birth to twins or something like that. And Abby, Lilly and Becca are planning to have multiple children, if I recall some details in a certain conversation (but I can't recall which one of them wanted to have which exact number of boys and girls).
 

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I mean we had that argument before and everything has been analysed and said, but as they say, not by everybody.
we will have same debate in the future too.

And in case Frank does fire full loads, what if Beth ends up giving birth to twins or something like that.
why twins would be bad? they have enuf money to support those.
 

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we will have same debate in the future too.



why twins would be bad? they have enuf money to support those.
It'd be a surprise if Beth had them (and for Frank). Didn't said it was a bad thing. That could be some twist, since the comment I was replying to said it'd be one if he fired blanks after agreeing to help her having a child (another one could be Beth becoming a mother of triplets).
 
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And in case Frank does fire full loads, what if Beth ends up giving birth to twins or something like that. And Abby, Lilly and Becca are planning to have multiple children, if I recall some details in a certain conversation (but I can't recall which one of them wanted to have which exact number of boys and girls).
If Frank gives Beth more than one kid in the first go, then they'll be a family feud in 30 years ... probably not relevant to the game though. ;)
 
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Handsome. Do you think we will finally see a little action with Abby? The last update ended with a start of "approach" with Lilyth and Abby together. will they go on? I can't wait
 

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Used this update to restart. Still enjoying it a lot. Just one thing that bothers me especially since you see it more and more in other VNs: Don't put in choices you don't want people to take and then ignore them.
In my case I rejected Beth every single time, no peaking no nothing. Later dialogues still treat it as if banged every single time.
So either give us the choice to say no and treat it as such or simply do not make it a selection.
 

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Used this update to restart. Still enjoying it a lot. Just one thing that bothers me especially since you see it more and more in other VNs: Don't put in choices you don't want people to take and then ignore them.
In my case I rejected Beth every single time, no peaking no nothing. Later dialogues still treat it as if banged every single time.
So either give us the choice to say no and treat it as such or simply do not make it a selection.
Why leave Beth out of it?
 
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Why leave Beth out of it?
I could think of quite a few reasons, and possibly originally it was intended to make it possible but now the story narrowed down a bit (some stuff wouldn't work without a special connection to Beth I think, or at the very least be even more implausible than it already is).

And I can sympathize, I stopped a different game (to have no discussions about the merits of any individual character from here) where you can turn down (almost?) everybody, however those who I picked didn't seem to have gotten the message at all and dialogue is wonky as well. I wouldn't even have minded too much if they were enforced in the first place, but getting a choice, making it, and then ignoring it is - except for rare circumstances where it becomes immediately clear that you'll have to go a certain route - offputting and distracting.

Since I didn't reject Beth here I cannot say though how it is handled and whether it even may be a bug and not the "canon occurence".
 
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I could think of quite a few reasons, and possibly originally it was intended to make it possible but now the story narrowed down a bit (some stuff wouldn't work without a special connection to Beth I think, or at the very least be even more implausible than it already is).

And I can sympathize, I stopped a different game (to have no discussions about the merits of any individual character) where you can turn down (almost?) everybody, however those who I picked didn't seem to have gotten the message at all and dialogue is wonky as well. I wouldn't even have minded too much if they were enforced in the first place, but getting a choice, making it, and then ignoring it is - except for rare circumstances where it becomes immediately clear that you'll have to go a certain route - offputting and distracting.

Since I didn't reject Beth here I cannot say though how it is handled and whether it even may be a bug and not the "canon occurence".
I think that CNG didn't had a behind story for Beth and Nessa, Beth was introduced as "quick fuck" while we wait for Lilith&Becca. After they become practically main (side) character part of his story, CNG couldn't just let them go away... When CNG tried to imagine continuation of the story without Beth and Nessa he realized his mistake and he just let them be there as integrating part of the story.
 
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I wouldn't even have minded too much if they were enforced in the first place, but getting a choice, making it, and then ignoring it is - except for rare circumstances where it becomes immediately clear that you'll have to go a certain route - offputting and distracting.
Exactly this.
In regards to why, I myself treat VNs like naughty/kinky Create-your-own-Adventure-Books. So story and choices if existing are rather important. If I only want lewd content there is more than enough porn out there for that. In that context If I enjoy a VN and it has choices I like trying different routes and this was the perlmutation I went for this time. Nothing against the Charakter, she's ok.

Maybe it is simply a Bug but I doubt it. A lot of the later dialogues and events make very little sense without getting more involved with Beth. Which is okay if the dev wants to go in that direction, it's his game after all, but providing choices and ignoring them expecting to make only specific ones is, as it was accurately put, offputting.
 
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